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Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

can't wait for jacobin to die so I can read the other socialist periodical

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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Karl Barks posted:

can't wait for jacobin to die so I can read the other socialist periodical

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
i don’t want jacobin to die but I also don’t want to stop making fun of it.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
"the guys waving rebel flags and calling governors (even republican ones) commumarxists because they want to buy lawn seeds are allies"

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
Jacobin in the past: "leftists dismissing Hitler are mistaken, yes he's Nationalist, but also Socialist"

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

GalacticAcid posted:

i don’t want jacobin to die but I also don’t want to stop making fun of it.

Then make fun of them when they do dumb poo poo. An article warning about mass civil unrest becoming co-opted and taken advantage of by highly funded and organized fascist networks is not one of them. Maybe just read the articles you post?

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
no

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020
Douche

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
cry

uncop
Oct 23, 2010
Is Jacobin in the "everyone is working class" school of class analysis? One can get to pretty ugly places if one can't distinguish between people who are getting agitated because they can't afford basic comforts and people who are getting agitated because they might lose privileges above the former group that they consider well deserved. Seriously, it's pretty hard for actual proles to integrate into an astroturfed right-wing protest because most of those fuckers are mad because they're afraid of becoming like who they despise, like them.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

uncop posted:

Is Jacobin in the "everyone is working class" school of class analysis?

https://twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/828402068444549121?s=21

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

Peanut President posted:

"the guys waving rebel flags and calling governors (even republican ones) commumarxists because they want to buy lawn seeds are allies"

thats not the point, the point is that the obviously astro-turfed protests are horseshit, but if people aren't given help and support soon there will be a lot of disaffected people who only see one group talking about their problems

its a microcosm of 2016, and a blueprint for the gop going forward. the democrats won't actually offer people solutions, and the republicans will pretend to, and get mass support by doing this poo poo.

the conclusion of the article is that progressive movements need to create a structure to present the coming wave of destitute people a third option, not allying with the death cultists

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

not reading the article, just gonna lol at the tweet

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
That was the idea hahaha

White Rock
Jul 14, 2007
Creativity flows in the bored and the angry!

Peanut President posted:

Jacobin in the past: "leftists dismissing Hitler are mistaken, yes he's Nationalist, but also Socialist"

Actually the analogy would be "yes they support/are Nazis, but we should be careful to dismiss the socioeconomic terms which led them to this point."

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

if you ever made fun of the America Is Already Great hat you should have no problem understanding that article

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

White Rock posted:

Actually the analogy would be "yes they support/are Nazis, but we should be careful to dismiss the socioeconomic terms which led them to this point."

Amazing we have morons the communist thread who don’t understand this

A4R8 fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Apr 24, 2020

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
relax

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

jacobin's editorial line seems perfectly aimed at trying to draw liberals in with headlines and then going in a different direction with the article. if you're a stage 3 communist or above, it can be confusing

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/micahuetricht/status/1253745756470722560

there is a frightening amount of people in the replies defending Chomsky

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
I genuinely appreciate the people actually giving thoughtful replies, and you make good points. However, I will never read a Jacobin article.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

A4R8 posted:

Then make fun of them when they do dumb poo poo. An article warning about mass civil unrest becoming co-opted and taken advantage of by highly funded and organized fascist networks is not one of them. Maybe just read the articles you post?

If you put it like that, we can't make fun of anything

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Why is there more than one snoo

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames
what the gently caress is a snoo

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
who is hollering "READ THE ARTICLE" outside my home? show yourself coward i will never read the article!

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Varinn posted:

thats not the point, the point is that the obviously astro-turfed protests are horseshit, but if people aren't given help and support soon there will be a lot of disaffected people who only see one group talking about their problems

its a microcosm of 2016, and a blueprint for the gop going forward. the democrats won't actually offer people solutions, and the republicans will pretend to, and get mass support by doing this poo poo.

the conclusion of the article is that progressive movements need to create a structure to present the coming wave of destitute people a third option, not allying with the death cultists

the republicans have already adopted exactly this as their strategy. peep this trump ad:

https://twitter.com/christoaivalis/status/1252388919338913793?s=20

Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Apr 24, 2020

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Peanut President posted:

I genuinely appreciate the people actually giving thoughtful replies, and you make good points. However, I will never read a Jacobin article.

that's fine, when you live in a libertarian socialist paradise, you'll be allowed to read or not read whatever you please

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


GalacticAcid posted:

i don’t want jacobin to die but I also don’t want to stop making fun of it.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Karl Barks posted:

that's fine, when you live in a libertarian socialist paradise, you'll be allowed to read or not read whatever you please

me, anarchistly: what's reading

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



i lapsed my subscription a year or so ago after having not read any of the issues for another year prior but i may resubscribe so they don't die

jacobin is very much targeting the left-curious lib imo. its articles are what you can send to your loyal dem voter boomer relatives

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Jewel Repetition posted:

Why is there more than one snoo

It's the twisted snoo

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
I subbed for a while...2014-2017. But now? Over it!

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

GalacticAcid posted:

I subbed for a while...2014-2017. But now? Over it!

I dommed

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Don't kinkshame plz

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

:frogsiren:

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


I actually want to ask: what the gently caress is jacobin? I'm not american just listening to their politics beacuse they influence the world

Lady Militant
Apr 8, 2020

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

you don't have to worry, we all know he doesn't have the clap

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

dex_sda posted:

I actually want to ask: what the gently caress is jacobin? I'm not american just listening to their politics beacuse they influence the world

its a fashion magazine for teenagers

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


CYBEReris posted:

its a fashion magazine for teenagers

Oh ok

Cool fashion like cosmo?

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Ardennes
May 12, 2002
There is a kernel of truth/materialism to the protests, people are increasingly desperate but are not only is opening stores going to kill or maim untold numbers, it will do little to help their economic plight. That said, it may help investors who want to at least create an "aura of positivity" in the stock market.

Also, Jacobin is still garbage like 99% of any English language publication.

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