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I guess I'm just wary about it since it's priced at a full $60 game but comprises so little of the original game. That's why I wonder how well it stacks up and if it's worth the cost.
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khy posted:I guess I'm just wary about it since it's priced at a full $60 game but comprises so little of the original game. That's why I wonder how well it stacks up and if it's worth the cost. In terms of sheer size it took me about 45 hours to complete, if that helps. And my opinion is hell yes it stacks up. In terms of comparison to the original I will say that it's worth playing even if you recall the original perfectly.
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Apr 25, 2020 23:08
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berenzen posted:important plot information being hidden in random spots that people might never actually look at This, especially - the flashback scene that's hidden in Nibelheim is, arguably, crucial to the story, and I've spoken to a bunch of people these past few weeks who have just never seen it, because it's hidden for some reason! khy posted:I guess I'm just wary about it since it's priced at a full $60 game but comprises so little of the original game. That's why I wonder how well it stacks up and if it's worth the cost. I'm more or less finished with it now, and I put about 75 hours in. It's frankly an improvement on the original in every way (yeah, I said it). Bleck fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Apr 25, 2020 |
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Apr 25, 2020 23:09
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that reason presumably being that it straight up did not exist in the original JP release
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Apr 25, 2020 23:09
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If you played the original, complete version of OG FF7, you will get a lot out of this game that you did not get out of that version. For multiple reasons.
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Apr 25, 2020 23:12
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You can play the first chapter for free in a demo if you're on the fence. After that, the gameplay only gets better imo. It's not a "finished product" in that it doesn't contain FF7 original but it stands up in its own right. Plenty of content.
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Apr 25, 2020 23:18
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Me: Chapter 13? I must be getting close to the end, this game didn't have enough Barret. Game: 
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Apr 25, 2020 23:45
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khy posted:I guess I'm just wary about it since it's priced at a full $60 game but comprises so little of the original game. That's why I wonder how well it stacks up and if it's worth the cost. See my mini-review a page or two back, where I said it's not only a good game on its own, but I consider it to probably be the best Final Fantasy game (I have not played the MMOs, but am very familiar with all of the rest). It is absolutely worth being a full-price game.
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Apr 25, 2020 23:48
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Pollyanna posted:In terms of sheer size it took me about 45 hours to complete, if that helps. And my opinion is hell yes it stacks up. I beat it in 30 (played on easy because I’m a coward) and still felt like I got my money’s worth and am already itchy to play again. It’s an excellent game, get it
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khy posted:I guess I'm just wary about it since it's priced at a full $60 game but comprises so little of the original game. That's why I wonder how well it stacks up and if it's worth the cost. This is a full 40-hour game on its own and is very good. I think Square calling the FF7 Remake "episodic" was kind of a mistake. It's episodic in the way Mass Effect games are, or Xenosaga, in that it's a series of standalone games that tell one long story. It's not like Hitman or Life Is Strange or The Walking Dead, where each episode is small and you need the whole thing for it to be a complete experience. Playing through this feels like playing the first game in a new series. There's a complete narrative arc, but the full story isn't done yet, and you gotta tune in next time to find out what happens to our heroes next, that kind of thing. Also, fun fact: apparently Midgar is fully 36% of the script of the original FF7, by pure text volume. (This is according to Tim Rogers, who did a big comparison video series between the English and Japanese scripts) Harrow fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Apr 25, 2020 |
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Apr 25, 2020 23:54
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If nothing else, there are so, so many priceless moments in this game it'd be a shame to miss out on them.
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Apr 25, 2020 23:58
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I saw an article trying to argue that FF7R could have been made like the Trials on Mana game and it just solidified that a straight remake of a lovely old game with the same lovely old poo poo would have sucked.
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JBP posted:I saw an article trying to argue that FF7R could have been made like the Trials on Mana game and it just solidified that a straight remake of a lovely old game with the same lovely old poo poo would have sucked. Trials of Mana is great though
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Heath posted:Trials of Mana is great though Current cash rate: no interest.
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JBP posted:Current cash rate: no interest. I don't know what that means but we're well past the point of people making the contrarian stance that people who would have liked a straight ToM-style remake are dumb
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Heath posted:I don't know what that means but we're well past the point of people making the contrarian stance that people who would have liked a straight ToM-style remake are dumb It's not contrarian. It's not dumb to want something, even if what you want would have cost us a modern classic.
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So, uh, please tell me that I don't have to get the Digital Deluxe version in order to get the 2 summon materias and that they're in the game somewhere and it's not just a means to cash in from the fanbase
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Apr 26, 2020 01:30
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khy posted:So, uh, please tell me that I don't have to get the Digital Deluxe version in order to get the 2 summon materias and that they're in the game somewhere and it's not just a means to cash in from the fanbase They're only deluxe.
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Trials of Mana is a very faithful remake of a game from 1995 but ... it's a very faithful remake of a game from 1995. It doesn't really have Final Fantasy's level of plot or characterization, particularly since the party and main antagonist will vary depending on who you pick at the start of the game. I love it dearly but it's a tough sell to anybody who has no nostalgia for the original, especially at full price. My opinion of FF7R when I finished it was that it was pretty good but for whatever reason it's been steadily increasing since then to "best game I've played in a very very long time". You know how good your nostalgia-tinged childhood memory makes you think the game was the best thing ever even though you know it obviously wasn't actually as great as that in reality? The remake actually manages to be that good. If they manage to finish out the series while maintaining this quality it is going to be a landmark franchise. So yeah, this expanded series, in my opinion, is a lot better than just making a by-the-numbers straight remake but with voice acting and modern 3D. That being said, that's an emotional reaction of course, so your experience may vary. The polish and production values are undeniably very high, and on Normal difficulty the combat does actually demand you fully engage with it; they're not afraid to make it somewhat challenging every once in a while.
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khy posted:So, uh, please tell me that I don't have to get the Digital Deluxe version in order to get the 2 summon materias and that they're in the game somewhere and it's not just a means to cash in from the fanbase they arent that great fwiw, theres a good amount you get ingame that are much better. that said i dont have carbunkle so idk about that one. cactuar is cute tho
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JBP posted:They're only deluxe. Well that seems scummy but whatever. Second quick question : Is the game actually 85GB like the playstation store claims it is?
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Apr 26, 2020 01:48
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Carbuncle is very useful because you can summom him in a lot of fights where you can't summon the big summons and he can cast Barrier/Manaward on your team.
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Apr 26, 2020 01:56
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Is Pray dependent on the magic stat? The grognard in me wishes there was a stat breakdown that tells you how heavily it influences your character's performance.
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Apr 26, 2020 02:04
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It doesn't matter because Tifa can build ATB the fastest and she should have Pray at all times
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khy posted:So, uh, please tell me that I don't have to get the Digital Deluxe version in order to get the 2 summon materias and that they're in the game somewhere and it's not just a means to cash in from the fanbase Someone suggested they'd be DLC eventually because of similar stuff in KH3/FF15.
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Jimbot posted:Is Pray dependent on the magic stat? The grognard in me wishes there was a stat breakdown that tells you how heavily it influences your character's performance. I believe so, at the same upgrade level Barret would usually heal for 1/3 to 1/2 of max HP while Aerith was more like 3/4
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khy posted:Well that seems scummy but whatever. Yes, it is 85 GB.
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I refuse to believe Jules is human. He must be an escaped Shinra experiment.
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khy posted:Well that seems scummy but whatever. Additionally, cactuar and Chocobo chick aren't great, you aren't going to miss them.
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i will miss cactuar
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Trials of Mana was also completely rebuilt with an overhauled battle system, new maps and voice acting. The difference between it and FFVII Remake is that the story is pretty much identical although their localization is much better than the unofficial one many of us played back in the day. But there wasn’t really much to expand on because it was light on story to begin with. It also had a smaller budget and development team than FFVIIR. FFVII was a much more ambitious game when it first came out (and massively popular) so it’s not a surprise they expanded on the story and world. But Tales of Mana is still really good for what it is.
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night slime posted:Someone suggested they'd be DLC eventually because of similar stuff in KH3/FF15. It'd be nice to be able to summon something other than Chocobochick 19 times out of 20. Are the 'big' summons only available in boss fights? My summon gauge has filled in a few fights where I thought it was open enough to call Ifrit or CMog, but nah.
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If you weren’t summoning Carbuncle every chance you got for the free healing and buffs... you’re tougher than me. Being able to haste everybody ruled.
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So some people are having trouble with the (chapter 9 boss spoilers) Hell House? I did not remember having much trouble with it. Then again I make it a point to keep the Access Materia with me at all times and use it for everything)
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Unlucky7 posted:So some people are having trouble with the (chapter 9 boss spoilers) Hell House? I did not remember having much trouble with it. Then again I make it a point to keep the Access Materia with me at all times and use it for everything) the problem wasn't assessing, the problem is that he goes straight up invulnerable for long periods and if you don't get an appropriate-element hit in during the short window that he isn't, you gotta stall again. if you overcame that, I commend you.
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PancakeTransmission posted:The physical version has a Data disc to install from then a separate Play disc. So yes Chocobo Chick is the only summon that can do Lightning damage though, isn’t it?
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Harrow posted:I've been saying that since I replayed the game back in college. I originally played the game when I was like 11 when it first came out and I was guilty of remembering Cloud as an emo mopey guy like Squall, but when I replayed it, it surprised me how much personality he has. (Honestly, replaying FF8 also surprised me with how much personality Squall has that I also forgot.) i suppose it being a game i replayed fairly often it was easier for me to not lose that perspective. i really don't understand why that disconnect happened in the first place. was it a result of a bunch of people who only played the beginning of the game being especially vocal? even if that was the case, Aerith never really got credit for being snarky and assy and she was like the from the get go. also i'm not the biggest FF8 fan, but i will maintain the opinion that Squall acts precisely how someone should when they are surrounded by idiots all the time. Ainsley McTree posted:I beat it in 30 (played on easy because I’m a coward) and still felt like I got my money’s worth and am already itchy to play again. It’s an excellent game, get it i'm in the same spot. i kind of want to try harder difficulties but i just fear i'll get frustrated. i never learned the battle system too well and i don't think i have the energy to like, rearrange materia and poo poo for each boss battle.
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Jimbot posted:Is Pray dependent on the magic stat? The grognard in me wishes there was a stat breakdown that tells you how heavily it influences your character's performance. It does, I think it has basically the same calculation as Cure -- 7x-8x your Magic Attack stat iirc. It also gets the 20% bonus from the Healing Carcinet accessory.
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