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Zapf Dingbat posted:Reporting from Atlanta.
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I mean, I'd point out that you're blatantly lifting his words out of context, but you don't seem interested in context.
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Apr 26, 2020 05:35
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Barack Obama personally built the cages with his own two hands.
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Apr 26, 2020 05:36
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relax-o-vision posted:I mean, I'd point out that you're blatantly lifting his words out of context, but you don't seem interested in context. "barach obama built the child cages" is literally damning in and of itself
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Apr 26, 2020 05:40
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I am not sure how building dog kennels as even a temporary solution would be okay but here we are.
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Apr 26, 2020 05:43
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A big flaming stink posted:"barach obama built the child cages" is literally damning in and of itself There are degrees of wrongness. Obama and Biden are bad. Trump has been much, much worse.
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Apr 26, 2020 05:44
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Yes trump is much worse
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Apr 26, 2020 05:45
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https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1253374873474338817?s=19
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Apr 26, 2020 05:51
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It's pretty freaking amazing how some goons hate Obama with the similar kind of hatred usually seen in Donald Trump when it comes to Obama. Ditto for some goons hatred of the Dems. Let's see, in the Dems side there is AOC, Tlaib, Torn, Abrams, and in the Republican side there is...? Clearly they are the same monsters.
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Apr 26, 2020 05:52
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A big flaming stink posted:"barach obama built the child cages" is literally damning in and of itself The correct choice was obviously to ramp the poo poo out of humane/comfortable unaccompanied-children programs. I don't actually know thing one about whether Obama did this, and I haven't seen any "Obama built the child cages  " posters talk about it, but I think we can reasonably assume he didn't do it fast enough by virtue of there having been a nontrivial number of caged children. Would've been nice if instead of listening to ICE/CBP leadership he instead punched them in their mouth whenever they opened it, not doing so is unequivocally a significant moral failure.relatedly i don't think the confinement element is as important as the conditions element even though it's more fun to own people with "child cages" than with "it was cold, the food sucked, and they didn't get enough exercise or human contact", if they'd been housed in decent temporary group homes or the like that they happened not to be allowed to leave we wouldn't care nearly as much, i know this because some of the kids were in fact placed in this sort of environment pretty promptly and nobody whatsoever is posting about it being a crime against humanity Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Apr 26, 2020 |
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Apr 26, 2020 05:53
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relax-o-vision posted:I mean, I'd point out that you're blatantly lifting his words out of context, but you don't seem interested in context. Ah yes, the context of building cages for children is so important. Thank you for opening my eyes to why child cages are good because a Democrat did it.
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Apr 26, 2020 05:53
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ManBoyChef posted:i could just see that. I'll set the scene for you. Its christmas morning and I have been amping up that I am getting my son a pet. He comes rushing downstairs expecting a dog or cat or at least a rabbit or something and I hold up a plastic cage and say "here is your skink son" I have a skink and he is a wonderful pet. He is very interactive, can tell the difference between different people, likes to scrabble, and will hang out on my head. He will also let me know when he's getting angry because he will make a little gesture like he's about to bite me, which means he wants to go back in his cage. If I don't do it, he will bite me, but very very lightly. He is smart and a good pet.
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Apr 26, 2020 06:01
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Madkal posted:It's pretty freaking amazing how some goons hate Obama with the similar kind of hatred usually seen in Donald Trump when it comes to Obama. If you are a politician sitting in Congress, then you are a part of the problem. Regardless of Party.
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Apr 26, 2020 06:03
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GreyjoyBastard posted:relatedly i don't think the confinement element is as important as the conditions element Extrajudicial confinement of children is fine as long as we give the kids bunk beds and an Xbox, you heard it here first folks.
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Apr 26, 2020 06:04
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GreyjoyBastard posted:barack obama built the child cages to hold unexpectedly huge numbers of unaccompanied children until they could be, largely, placed responsibly in responsible homes and allowed to remain in the United States, because he listened to assholes when that was the best temporary-living solution they came up with Hmm...could they have built housing for refugees other than cages with foil wraps for sleeping bags? Nope, everything that Obama did had to happen...it was the only option. Have you seen the other guys?
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Apr 26, 2020 06:06
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Mat Cauthon posted:Extrajudicial confinement of children is fine as long as we give the kids bunk beds and an Xbox, you heard it here first folks. i'm not particularly up on the legal or practical standard for whether four year olds should be allowed to wander off from their housing but even if we conclude it's unacceptable (I dunno, I might) it's still less-worse than treating them poorly/dangerously poorly if Obama stuck them in tents in the desert without walls keeping them in, that wouldn't exactly be a meaningful improvement (except maybe on the exercise angle I guess) Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Apr 26, 2020 |
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Apr 26, 2020 06:07
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Folks you have to take into consideration the context of why those Japanese people were put into internment camps
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Apr 26, 2020 06:13
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seems to be the time honored "obama did bad thing, trump then followed up and made it way way way way way worse" thing
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Apr 26, 2020 06:20
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Pick posted:I have a skink and he is a wonderful pet. He is very interactive, can tell the difference between different people, likes to scrabble, and will hang out on my head. He will also let me know when he's getting angry because he will make a little gesture like he's about to bite me, which means he wants to go back in his cage. If I don't do it, he will bite me, but very very lightly. He is smart and a good pet. a lot of people don't know it but lizards like that can and will actually learn and develop their own unique personalities over a lifetime.
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Apr 26, 2020 06:23
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Craig K posted:seems to be the time honored "obama did bad thing, trump then followed up and made it way way way way way worse" thing And also "if Obama hadn't done bad thing, Trump wouldn't continue doing bad thing and making it worse" because as we all know, the one thing Donald Trump loves doing is the exact same thing as Barack Obama. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Apr 26, 2020 |
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Apr 26, 2020 06:29
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Republicans are not responsible for their actions, if they do something bad it is always a Democrats fault. You are not allowed to talk about Republicans doing a bad thing if you do not list every bad thing done by Democrats at the start of your post.
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Apr 26, 2020 06:32
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It's objectivism vs absolutism in a one fall, twenty minute time limit cage match. Friedrich Neitzche and Soren Kierkegaard are your referees.
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Apr 26, 2020 06:37
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https://twitter.com/Jkylebass/status/1253699340507414528
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The solution was to have already have large buildings with living spaces already built and ready to go for the unprecedented problem they were facing.Wilbur Swain posted:It's objectivism vs absolutism in a one fall, twenty minute time limit cage match. Friedrich Neitzche and Soren Kierkegaard are your referees. But who built the cage? Edit: https://twitter.com/APOSTOL111111/status/1253709957763121152
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Apr 26, 2020 06:43
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I wonder whose terrible policies in Latin and South America led to this unforseen influx of unaccompanied minors in the first place? Gosh if only there were a way for problems like this to be stopped in the first place by not exploiting and destabilizing the gently caress out of every country that says "hey maybe we don't deserve to be exploited by imperialists so that fat morons in the US can have (insert cheap disposable commodity here)."
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Apr 26, 2020 06:43
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Push El Burrito posted:
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Apr 26, 2020 06:47
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Madkal posted:It's pretty freaking amazing how some goons hate Obama with the similar kind of hatred usually seen in Donald Trump when it comes to Obama. i believe caging children in the hope it will earn you brownie points from republicans to be monstrous. evidently this is not a trait we share.
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Apr 26, 2020 07:07
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aw man. that dead chud in the buzzfeed article was the same from a few days ago. was hoping for some new blood 
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Apr 26, 2020 07:19
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Mr Interweb posted:aw man. that dead chud in the buzzfeed article was the same from a few days ago. was hoping for some new blood This is still gross.
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Apr 26, 2020 07:20
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KillHour posted:This is still gross. why?
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Apr 26, 2020 07:23
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I'll believe Kim Jong-Un is dead when Dennis Rodman says so
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Apr 26, 2020 07:24
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Mr Interweb posted:why? Do I really have to explain why it's bad to hope more people die?
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Apr 26, 2020 07:24
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KillHour posted:Do I really have to explain why it's bad to hope more people die? who's talking about people  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 26, 2020 07:27
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The social backlash and extremely public nature of it is good though, in a bad way I guess. Because no one wants to put their family through the same poo poo that guys family is going go through. Now if people didn't have to loving die to accomplish this it would be great.
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Apr 26, 2020 07:27
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Holy crap. People are really defending Obama's child cages, huh.
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Apr 26, 2020 07:45
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Disnesquick posted:Holy crap. People are really defending Obama's child cages, huh. So what’s the solution for processing a large number of unaccompanied minors into the country for relatives to retrieve them or to return them to their parents when the existing state foster system is underfunded and overwhelmed?
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Apr 26, 2020 08:03
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DreamingofRoses posted:So what’s the solution for processing a large number of unaccompanied minors into the country for relatives to retrieve them or to return them to their parents when the existing state foster system is underfunded and overwhelmed? Funding and personnel? Maybe some more immigration judges to increase throughput? Build a housing solution fit for human beings and staff it with personnel trained in child development who arent Neo-Nazis? Lol, jk. Off to the kennels with those filthy animals
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Apr 26, 2020 08:22
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Unoriginal Name posted:Funding and personnel? Maybe some more immigration judges to increase throughput? Build a housing solution fit for human beings and staff it with personnel trained in child development who arent Neo-Nazis? Who controlled the funding?
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What, you mean who controlled the house and the senate in the years the camps were built?
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