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Peanut Butler posted:yeah i got that skill check chime in, too! I took it to mean that Harry's thoughts and decisions are literally guided by the skill system, in the programming of Revachol's reality, and who he even is varies based on who is playing- while Kim's are guided by a script that was already determined it means he writes his thoughts down.
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Peanut Butler posted:oh there was also this moment that made me smile, and I have never seen anything like it in a video game before: I was about to take a point of morale damage, but made a successful Empathy check and blocked the damage with the power of self-compassion for my second playthrough I just inverted everything, but I was mostly interested in seeing what I missed (a lot, though the beats stay the same largely), so for you it'd be like 6/1/3/2, though you're going to find a bitter enemy in Encyclopedia if you do this 4/2/2/4 is a solid loadout after supernatural cop
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My first run was 6/1/2/3 and I highly recommend it. Especially if you haven't seen super detective Harry Holmes in action.
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Renegade Cut finally released his Disco Elysium video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo4sHDGiDC0 He uses a full on cop and fascist playthrough as a vehicle to criticize police. Spoilers obviously.
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At long last I finished this, the best game. There are Normal Games, there are Games of the Apocalypse, and then there are Actual Art Games. This Was an Art Game. Loose ends I'm curious about - Ending sequence: You get XP and can even level up from the conversation - is there any use for it? Joyce: Is actually it possible to Reach For Something Fundamental? Dream sequences: They did their best, but ancient reptilian brain and limbic system couldn't protect me from myself forever. Does The Dream trigger on day 7 regardless of whether you're on the island, and does it ever repeat? Also, I was a little sad that those two didn't have anything to say after the Tribunal. And finally, I'd like to thank Inland Empire: I didn't wipe the mirror until day 4 and wow, I wish I hadn't. Didn't have nearly enough Electrochemistry to wipe that expression off my face. Can you just...not figure out what you look like? It'd be better that way.
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Red Crown posted:Joyce: Is actually it possible to Reach For Something Fundamental? If you exhausted all of her dialogue options you get a thought that gives a huge bonus to that check. It's actually one of the most effective ways to min-max.
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Red Crown posted:And finally, I'd like to thank Inland Empire: I didn't wipe the mirror until day 4 and wow, I wish I hadn't. Didn't have nearly enough Electrochemistry to wipe that expression off my face. Can you just...not figure out what you look like? It'd be better that way. The expression is actually much better than the alternative. You can avoid figuring out what you look like but if your DO find out and get rid of it, you look like the saddest sack. Same with if you shave, given the opportunity. Harry with Beard + expression is definitely preferable.
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Doctor Reynolds posted:What was everyone's favourite moment in the game? Excluding the ending, karaoke and the dance off, as those are easy answers! We're not the fashion police. We're the real police.
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Apr 19, 2020 00:42
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Did you guys know that there are Challenging passives in the very first room of the game? Try a glass cannon playthrough. There's a LOT of writing that most builds are likely to miss. It might be actually impossible to see everything in one go.
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INTERNALLY COHERENT!
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wiegieman posted:I want the sequel to Klaasje dealing with the voices in her head. Think of how high her electrochemistry must be! The sequel could be in 3 parts, one for Klaasje, one for Kuno/esse and hmmm, maybe the husband of the working woman joining the three threads together.
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tripwood posted:I played Sensitive Harry and I see no reason to be the judging hand of our unwanted corporate overlords, I won't judge nor kill anyone for any master. For Harry to get out of his hole and use his second chance, I think he needs to quit the force and start a detective agency with Kim and bring some detective savant justice to the slums. Martinaise needs her heroes. wiegieman posted:I want the sequel to Klaasje dealing with the voices in her head. Think of how high her electrochemistry must be! Both of these together make me think... Kurvitz talked about wanting to do a pregnant woman playthrough, didn't he? And the merc was enjoying himself when he died...
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I’d want a sequel to have a new cast of main characters and maybe see a different part of the world. If anyone returns from DE, I’d just want it as a cameo.
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If they make a sequel it should be in the same overall setting but with completely different characters and a totally different plot, and you maybe cross paths with a couple of characters from the first game and that's it. Call it Grunge Elysium.
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whydirt posted:I’d want a sequel to have a new cast of main characters and maybe see a different part of the world. If anyone returns from DE, I’d just want it as a cameo. The DLC/expansion they talked about right after launch where you play as a pregnant woman sounds interesting only because I trust this team and pretty much no one else in the video game development world to pull it off well.
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Dreylad posted:The DLC/expansion they talked about right after launch where you play as a pregnant woman sounds interesting only because I trust this team and pretty much no one else in the video game development world to pull it off well. I foresee that being fraught with peril solely because the baby might end up being a voice, either real or via Inland Empire, and that just brings all sorts of baggage with the "when does life begin?" debate such that it's all anyone would talk about, even if it was handled well.
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Fuzz posted:I foresee that being fraught with peril solely because the baby might end up being a voice, either real or via Inland Empire, and that just brings all sorts of baggage with the "when does life begin?" debate such that it's all anyone would talk about, even if it was handled well. ZA/UM does not seem like a studio likely to shy away from political peril
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wiegieman posted:I want the sequel to Klaasje dealing with the voices in her head. I want a prequel with Klaasje covering the events that led her to Martinaise. They wouldn't even have to care about canon because she lies about everything. As long as she makes it there without dying or being permanently disfigured, just about everything is open.
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Dreylad posted:The DLC/expansion they talked about right after launch where you play as a pregnant woman sounds interesting only because I trust this team and pretty much no one else in the video game development world to pull it off well. this is where I'm at as well
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Khizan posted:I want a prequel with Klaasje covering the events that led her to Martinaise. They wouldn't even have to care about canon because she lies about everything. As long as she makes it there without dying or being permanently disfigured, just about everything is open. A story set in Oranje in general would be interesting, though honestly they could stay in Revachol and just take us to another neighborhood and it'd still be great. Hell, a crazy game where you play a Pale Driver crossing a few areas and having insane LSD dreams in the Pale would be cool, too.
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the time is ripe for a Disco Elysium gacha
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I think they'd be crazy to do anything but set the next game at the start of the next Revacholian civil war, the one that looks to be kicking off during some of the story you get after you come back from the island. Between that and apparently Revachol getting nuked in 22 years, they've pretty well laid all the sequel hooks for themselves. The thing that makes me sad is that it probably won't star Harry, because his personal story is already explored in Disco Elysium. They'd have to start with a new character, one with their own demons to work through, if they want to recapture the magic of DE -- solving the mystery was only half the appeal, I don't know that it would have worked without the insane personal catharsis. I still haven't bothered to download Sherlock Holmes for free on the Epic Store, which is supposed to be pretty good. (e: I mean Sherlock is supposed to be pretty good, the Epic Store is supposed to be pretty poo poo.)
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i know this is probably late for "wow I didn't know this game had", but I didn't know that you could play the board games from the bookstore until now, and Kim getting sad that you beat him to punching out the pieces and tokens from the cardboard packaging sheet is the most  moment possible (it even helps the check for convincing him to play the game if he sees all the different pieces)
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Phenotype posted:I think they'd be crazy to do anything but set the next game at the start of the next Revacholian civil war, the one that looks to be kicking off during some of the story you get after you come back from the island. Between that and apparently Revachol getting nuked in 22 years, they've pretty well laid all the sequel hooks for themselves. The thing that makes me sad is that it probably won't star Harry, because his personal story is already explored in Disco Elysium. They'd have to start with a new character, one with their own demons to work through, if they want to recapture the magic of DE -- solving the mystery was only half the appeal, I don't know that it would have worked without the insane personal catharsis. I still haven't bothered to download Sherlock Holmes for free on the Epic Store, which is supposed to be pretty good. (e: I mean Sherlock is supposed to be pretty good, the Epic Store is supposed to be pretty poo poo.) Not necessarily - Harry hasn't actually changed by the end of the game. Demons like those keep popping back up, it's why nobody is an ex-alcoholic. It'd be just as interesting to play Harry "in recovery".
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I can't imagine playing a sober protagonist in a sequel. You'd have to at least be schizophrenic or something.
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Animal-Mother posted:I can't imagine playing a sober protagonist in a sequel. You'd have to at least be schizophrenic or something. my 1/6/2/3 run was a very sane and stable harry, i mean, compared to baseline- constantly making volition checks, being bolstered by a sense of self-empathy and the warm glow of comrades, able to tank shitloads of morale damage with a sort of 'oh, well, tomorrow is a new day' attitude, not analytically-minded or in touch with the city enough to really delve into how awful everything is- i accidentally played a power fantasy of a person who can handle rock-bottom, in a game that seems to be designed to be a failure fantasy
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I’ll be a bit bummed if the sequel isn’t Disco Dancer.
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Peanut Butler posted:my 1/6/2/3 run was a very sane and stable harry, i mean, compared to baseline- constantly making volition checks, being bolstered by a sense of self-empathy and the warm glow of comrades, able to tank shitloads of morale damage with a sort of 'oh, well, tomorrow is a new day' attitude, not analytically-minded or in touch with the city enough to really delve into how awful everything is- You consider having Inland Empire constantly talking to you "sane"?
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The Cheshire Cat posted:You consider having Inland Empire constantly talking to you "sane"? lol hell yeah, Inland Empire speaks in lofty terms that seem to dictate the reality around Harry, but really it meant that he had an extremely strong intuition, which covered all the gaps in his complete inability to think logically there are times when IE is mostly about an overwhelming and unhealthy fear of getting emotionally hurt, but Volition would often step in and say 'no; you got this, you can face this'- and when it didn't, the ability to ignore the rotten parts of reality served Harry's recovery well he might have been a bit nutty, thinking that the hanged corpse was talking to him, but it only told him things that he would have pieced together rationally if he weren't such a scatterbrain. He believed in some pretty far-out stuff, and would often go around warning about curses and bad omens, but his actions that came from this information were (relatively) measured except for, well okay, times like sprinting out of the Whirling and flipping the double-bird on day 1 I wanna play a low-PSY, high-INT run after this, to compare differences, but this game is like a very heavy meal- I finished it a couple weeks ago, but it still needs time to digest before I dive back in
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By the time I'm ready to replay this, I'm going to be ready for another 6 PSY run. My phone background is Inland Empire. I want to talk to corpses and believe in aliens and dress like an apostate televangelist. My Harry will save your soul FROM Jesus, and I'm definitely not going to cut my hair this time, either.
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Welp, I finished this. I'm kind of not sure what to say. Did a very old, lonely and broken person really snipe that dude out of jealously and maybe being hopped up on weird rear end bug aura?
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NecroMonster posted:Welp, I finished this. I'm kind of not sure what to say. Did a very old, lonely and broken person really snipe that dude out of jealously and maybe being hopped up on weird rear end bug aura? Yep.
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Peanut Butler posted:he might have been a bit nutty, thinking that the hanged corpse was talking to him, but it only told him things that he would have pieced together rationally if he weren't such a scatterbrain. Eh, Inland Empire did have some things like with the corpse where it tells you that 'communism killed him, but love did him in' and it turns out that he was assassinated by a communist sniper who had a crush on the girl he was loving. There's no reasonable way to intuit things like that.
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That's why Inland Empire is one of my absolute favorite skills. It spoils the whole game plot for you but in the most useless way possible that you won't be able to understand until you get there properly.
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Jack Trades posted:That's why Inland Empire is one of my absolute favorite skills. It spoils the whole game plot for you but in the most useless way possible that you won't be able to understand until you get there properly. Yeah it reminds me a lot of playing a Malkavian in Bloodlines. A lot of people always said about that game that you shouldn't play Malks first because it would spoil the game for you, but I did and it didn't make a difference because I had no idea what any of the foreshadowing meant until after the actual plot thing happened. Really DE is just like "what if we made the Malkavian option from Bloodlines into the whole game".
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Jack Trades posted:That's why Inland Empire is one of my absolute favorite skills. It spoils the whole game plot for you but in the most useless way possible that you won't be able to understand until you get there properly. If you have a high enough Inland Empire when you get one of your first Shivers prompts describing what's going on in all directions of the city, IE will quickly interject 'that's where the miracle is' when you get to the... north? whichever direction the island is in. I think there's a similar line if you use the coin-operated viewer that's pointing at the island. lov too have a cryptic-to-the-point-of-uselessness tiny David Lynch in my brain
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NecroMonster posted:Welp, I finished this. I'm kind of not sure what to say. Did a very old, lonely and broken person really snipe that dude out of jealously and maybe being hopped up on weird rear end bug aura? You gotta hand it to him, it was one hell of a shot. e: 
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SexyBlindfold posted:You gotta hand it to him, it was one hell of a shot. I'm doing another playthrough already and paying attention to the spots in town that have been marked by bullets and the placement of them in relation to other things and this dude has been taking shots at people and stuff for a long time I think, and mostly missed, lmao..
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