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I keep thinking about a passage from Europe's Tragedy about the prevailing attitudes leading up to the 30 Years War, about how the system of the HRE of having a political minority and political majority both being unsatisfied with the current system but holding on because there's faith in future success for either. But when that faith of future gains breaks down, that's all there was to hold the system together. Let me see if I can find the exact passage "The modern democratic state assumes responsibility for implementing decisions once they have been taken by majority vote. The dissenting minority now confront the full power of the state, and if they choose to resist, the situation can descend into violence as there is no legal basis for their failure to comply. . . . The minority continued to confront the majority . . . it was as if the process of decision-making was not yet complete and the majority view remained provisional until accepted by the minority. This situation was clearly problematic, as the dissenters could still hope to reverse unwelcome decisions completely, while the majority could grow frustrated if their opinion remained ignored. Constant postponement of controversial issues might render definitive arrangements impossible. . . . the chances of violence were greatly reduced as long as a compromise remained possible. . . while the Empire's inhabitants fought over the interpretation of the imperial constituion, they did not dispute its existence and it provided the framework within which they eventually made their peace" Sound familiar? We're at the point where compromise is impossible, and at least the right is beginning to make the argument that the constitution doesn't matter (remember that Op-ed from that chud law professor?) since they have achieved full power now. however we're gonna make the 30YW look like sunshine and rainbows
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Phi230 posted:I keep thinking about a passage from Europe's Tragedy about the prevailing attitudes leading up to the 30 Years War, about how the system of the HRE of having a political minority and political majority both being unsatisfied with the current system but holding on because there's faith in future success for either. But when that faith of future gains breaks down, that's all there was to hold the system together. look at this babybrain thinking there’ll only be TWO sides. this is America bitch, we’ll have so many factions you’ll have to keep a spreadsheet.
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Much as historians regard the Crimean and American Civil wars as previews of the trends that made WW1 so destructive, Syria will come to be seen as the blueprint for the 21'st century global order.
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Apr 26, 2020 18:46
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shame on an IGA posted:Much as historians regard the Crimean and American Civil wars as previews of the trends that made WW1 so destructive, Syria will come to be seen as the blueprint for the 21'st century global order. What are some good books about the Syrian civil war by the way? Any good guides on dealing with multiple warring factions and shifting alliances?
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Apr 26, 2020 20:01
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shame on an IGA posted:Much as historians regard the Crimean and American Civil wars as previews of the trends that made WW1 so destructive, Syria will come to be seen as the blueprint for the 21'st century global order. capitalism owns
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Apr 26, 2020 20:08
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Guys. Guys. GUYS. It's C annibalistic H umanoid U nderground D wellers or C.H.U.D. for short. You can leave out the periods, like FBI: CHUD, but either way, come on, you gotta respect the IP.
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Apr 26, 2020 20:13
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How is the Syrian civil war going during all this craziness? Has the virus teamed up with the Lion Assad?
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Apr 26, 2020 20:14
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anime was right posted:gonna be great when some local budding california warlord uses this thread as a way to determine strategic control positions for the new era Gray Davis plots his revenge.
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Apr 26, 2020 21:01
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goodbye Western Pact, hello FREEDOM STATE
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Apr 26, 2020 21:06
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slippery doc posted:goodbye Western Pact, hello FREEDOM STATE Let me guess, the liberal hell hole portion of that map contains 70% or so of the population of the state? Just checking if it’s similar to Illinois, where down state blames everything on Chicago.
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Apr 26, 2020 21:45
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Orvin posted:Let me guess, the liberal hell hole portion of that map contains 70% or so of the population of the state? I think Seattle metro probably half the state population, so it’s significant but not really as nuts as Illinois where like you said I think upwards to almost three quarters of the state population are in Chicago metro
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Apr 26, 2020 22:05
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Orvin posted:Let me guess, the liberal hell hole portion of that map contains 70% or so of the population of the state? every person in upstate ny blames nyc. everyone in nyc blames albany.
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Apr 26, 2020 22:12
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albany is really bad in all fairness
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Orvin posted:Let me guess, the liberal hell hole portion of that map contains 70% or so of the population of the state? i did the numbers and "Liberal Hellhole" is 66% of the state 4,49,019 out of 6,746,000 Chicagoland is roughly 63% of Illinois Peanut President has issued a correction as of 22:32 on Apr 26, 2020 |
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Apr 26, 2020 22:29
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Real hurthling! posted:albany is really bad in all fairness its true
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Apr 26, 2020 22:30
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Peanut President posted:i did the numbers and "Liberal Hellhole" is 66% of the state it's also prob like 75% (?) of the state's economy
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Apr 26, 2020 22:33
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:it's also prob like 75% (?) of the state's economy The only spots with noticable economic output outside of the Seattle metro area is that one nuke plant and maaaaybe Spokane if you want to be generous
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Apr 26, 2020 22:34
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:it's also prob like 75% (?) of the state's economy we gotta consider the fact that in a balkanized nation, our idea of what "the economy" is gonna fundamentally change from services, finance, and software to something akin to "who can make machines, food, and guns real good"
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Apr 26, 2020 22:35
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Agean90 posted:The only spots with noticable economic output outside of the Seattle metro area is that one nuke plant and maaaaybe Spokane if you want to be generous central wa grows a lot of apples and hops, idk how significant that is tho
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Apr 26, 2020 22:36
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:central wa grows a lot of apples and hops, idk how significant that is tho I just assumed that was mostly reliant on Seattle area for buyers and lumped them into Seattle's economic zone
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Apr 26, 2020 22:40
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anime was right posted:we gotta consider the fact that in a balkanized nation, our idea of what "the economy" is gonna fundamentally change from services, finance, and software to something akin to "who can make machines, food, and guns real good" So, the PRC and FRG?
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Apr 26, 2020 22:58
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:it's also prob like 75% (?) of the state's economy I would guess more than that. the two largest publically held corporations in the world are in that liberal hellhole
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Apr 26, 2020 23:00
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New balk map
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Apr 27, 2020 00:46
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SKULL.GIF posted:New balk map I loving knew that Indiana and Ohio would betray the Midwestern Pact
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Apr 27, 2020 02:12
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SKULL.GIF posted:New balk map Indiana and Ohio are now kicked out of the Midwest, South Dakota is our new best friend 😤
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Apr 27, 2020 02:13
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slippery doc posted:goodbye Western Pact, hello FREEDOM STATE we bury most of our garbage and nuclear waste there
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Apr 27, 2020 02:16
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Some alternatives  
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Apr 27, 2020 02:27
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SKULL.GIF posted:New balk map gently caress you Iowa. Tulip posted:Some alternatives Lol I'm sending this to all my friends in the STL Metro to tease them.
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Apr 27, 2020 02:39
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Agean90 posted:the us navy goes rogue and the pacific territories get turned into some weird naval state who's central government is a constantly moving carrier group that never spends more than one month at any given port lmao  sovereign citizenswhats that about naval law not applying 
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Apr 27, 2020 03:16
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ligma gold fringe
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Apr 27, 2020 03:17
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Apr 27, 2020 03:29
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ah, the party coast vs the other one
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Apr 27, 2020 03:50
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what is this map? Overlaying the ranges of potentially dangerous wildlife with like 90% transparency over the US?
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Apr 27, 2020 04:00
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TeenageArchipelago posted:what is this map? Overlaying the ranges of potentially dangerous wildlife with like 90% transparency over the US? it’s a map of the likelihood of encountering a shade of blue
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Apr 27, 2020 04:03
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SKULL.GIF posted:New balk map Huh it's almost like the USA is lying in a pool of blood in this one I wonder why
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Apr 27, 2020 04:22
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Watch out if you're in Los Angeles apparently. Who knew that pigeons could gently caress you up
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Apr 27, 2020 05:07
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Watch out if you're in Los Angeles apparently. Who knew that pigeons could gently caress you up It's the mountain lions
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Apr 27, 2020 05:27
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all the pro balkanization people are right, all the anti balkanization people are wrong. allocate my damage points as appropriate
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Apr 27, 2020 05:29
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loving that fresh oceanic air in west virginia
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Real hurthling! posted:albany is really bad in all fairness hi just want to parachute in to quote this gently caress i'd expect parts of upstate to balkanize away from the rest of NY, its full of racists and nazis
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