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This is a straight-forward 72-question test I found today. If you have 5-10 minutes to spare give it a twirl/ https://leftvalues.github.io/quiz.html When you complete it, please post your results here. I want to know more about where you goons stand.
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# ? Apr 26, 2020 23:52 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 14:43 |
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Here, I'll start: Grouchio: Democratic Socialist
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# ? Apr 26, 2020 23:53 |
im a communist op
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 01:02 |
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Eco-Marxist. More sustainably produced guillotines.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 01:08 |
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Not entirely surprised.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 01:12 |
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TF is Centrist Marxism? Not a Marxist at all, at least Social Democrat was my second-best match. Is there a term for "Dislikes oppressive governments, but knows that Glorious Revolutions produce more corpses than changes?"
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 02:16 |
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I hadn't actually heard of Eco-Marxism before.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 02:21 |
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Cobalt-60 posted:
Yeah, a shitlib who doesn't even know what Marxism is
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 02:21 |
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i was orthodox marxism with eco-marxism right behind, nothing else in the 90s
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 03:04 |
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I suspect if we really wanted to get an understanding of people's political alignments it would be better to know what orgs they affiliate with, what work have they done, than their online opinions. What's the point of calling yourself a socialist if you're not contributing to the cause of socialism? E: this isn't about grandstanding, it's a deeper philosophical problem. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Apr 27, 2020 |
# ? Apr 27, 2020 03:29 |
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endless factionalization, comrade
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 03:30 |
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WOWEE ZOWEE posted:I suspect if we really wanted to get an understanding of people's political alignments it would be better to know what orgs they affiliate with, what work have they done, than their online opinions. Idk about that dude mine said hufflepuff
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 04:32 |
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Marxalot posted:Idk about that dude mine said hufflepuff https://twitter.com/Halalcoholism/status/1232819856912707585?s=20
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 04:42 |
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i say swears online posted:endless factionalization, comrade dont got much else
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 05:21 |
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I got "Guillotine Calibration Standard." That's bad, right?
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 06:39 |
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Sundae posted:I got "Guillotine Calibration Standard." No not at all, that means you get a free ticket to visit Central Park in NYC!
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 06:54 |
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Orthodox Marxism. This confuses me as everything I say on reddit invariably leads to a reply of "like, do you even read theory?"
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 07:01 |
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This test came up in this subforum before, and it sounds like it hasn't changed much from before, although it sounds like it might be spitting out fewer vaguely humorous diagnoses of ecofascism or whatever the hell weird not-even-remotely leftist poo poo it was before.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 07:14 |
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Left-wing Nationalism came in second and Democratic Socialism third, both just above 90%. It seems even when I try, I can't escape centrism.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 09:06 |
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Chalk up another eco-marxist. I'm personally quite on board with recycled guillotines being put to good use. biglads fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Apr 27, 2020 |
# ? Apr 27, 2020 10:31 |
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Cobalt-60 posted:Is there a term for "Dislikes oppressive governments, but knows that Glorious Revolutions produce more corpses than changes?" "conservative"
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 11:18 |
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"Council Communist" which sounds like a porno. Also apparently 95% orthodox marxist/eco marxist which checks out, and 85% leftcom. I apparently got 0% utopian socialist though which is funny
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 11:41 |
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I'm also an Eco-Marxist it seems: At 90.6% and 89.9% I had Orthodox Marxism and Democratic Socialist, which seems contradictory? I agree with the results mostly, though I'm unclear what the difference between a Party v Union is. Is there one of these for the right, because now I'm just curious what results it would spit out.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 13:54 |
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100YrsofAttitude posted:I agree with the results mostly, though I'm unclear what the difference between a Party v Union is. ...you cannot tell the difference between a political party and a trade union? Anyway My closest matches are eco-anarchism (98.5%) & anarcho-communism (95.1%). Got 0% for Marxism-Leninism because I'm cool & good. This all checks out as near enough accurate, though I'd also not really say that green anarchism is incompatable with ancom. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Apr 27, 2020 |
# ? Apr 27, 2020 13:58 |
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forkboy84 posted:...you cannot tell the difference between a political party and a trade union? Yes I do, I read the description of what it meant afterwards and understood the discrepancy.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 14:04 |
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OwlFancier posted:
same pretty much
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 14:15 |
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Cobalt-60 posted:TF is Centrist Marxism? A Centrist Marxist is a term that dates back to the immediate aftermath of the October Revolution & the arguments within the left-wing movements & basically refers to equivocating between (or in a more generous read, being open to) electoral reformism & revolution as your paths to socialism, with examples like the short lived USPD in Germany, POUM in Spain & the Independent Labour Party in the UK. As for your other question, that can honestly describe anything from anarchism to straight up liberalism.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 14:24 |
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I do like the marxist use of scientific/utopian.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 14:31 |
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Another centrist Marxist. Basically I want to replace capitalism with a democratically planned economy but I wouldn't say I know enough theory or have enough practice to have a set opinion of how best to get there. I'm open to ML or demsoc or anarchist positions. Other ones in the 90s are Orthodox Marxism, Left-Wing Nationalism, Council Communism, and Eco-Marxism. I have participated in the DSA and volunteered+donated to the Bernie campaign. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Apr 27, 2020 |
# ? Apr 27, 2020 18:01 |
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 18:46 |
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I got Social Democrat, which I think by the standards of the test makes me worthless trash . A lot of the questions were for things I just didn’t have much reference for, or hadn’t given a lot of thought. Definitely a good education in the distinction between being generally left vs being a “proper” leftist. But given how badly my mental state tends to do when I let politics occupy a lot of my brain, that’s about where it’s going to stay for me.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 19:03 |
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 19:11 |
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Piggy in the middle Guessing centrist marxism is going to be fairly common huh
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 19:14 |
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quote:Closest Match:Eco-Marxism Needs more syndicalism.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 19:19 |
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Isn't this just 72 trot gotcha questions
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 19:46 |
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My failure to get 100% Progressive shames me.
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# ? Apr 27, 2020 20:44 |
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https://leftvalues.github.io/results.html?a=89.7&b=83.8&c=78.3&d=58.9&e=83.3&f=65.3&g=25.0 Closest Match:Marxism-Leninism Marxism-Leninism is a form of Marxism that was forged in the 20th century in the Soviet Union. Marxist-Leninists heavily favor the use of a communist political party as the platform for both achieving revolution and establishing socialism. Many Marxist-Leninists are somewhat more nationalistic and patriotic than many other Marxists, and may favor industrial progress over environmental goals. You can send these results by copying and pasting the URL at the top of the page or using the image below. Next closest matches With your closest match as 100% and farthest as 0%, here is how closely you matched the other ideologies. Orthodox Marxism: 97.7% Orthodox Marxism is a form of Marxism that adopts views that conform to Marxist theory as it was originally written, particularily on the topic of dialectical materialism. Orthodox Marxists are highly revolutionary and internationalist and hold that nonindustrial societies are incapable of achieving socialism. Left Communism: 91.4% Left Communism is a form of Marxism that leans towards so called ultra-left positions. These include unconditional support for revolution and internationalism, a rejection of unions and participation in liberal democracy, and a rejection of national liberation and self-determination. Eco-Marxism: 84.4% Eco-Marxism is a form of Orthodox Marxism more commonly found in the modern day that places a particular emphasis on environmental issues. Eco-Marxists generally favor central economic planning as a way of combating climate issues. Left-Wing Nationalism: 82.1% Left-Wing Nationalism is an ideology that mixes left-wing economics with non-xenophobic nationalism and patriotism. Many Left-Wing Nationalists are simultaneously supportive of international solidarity, and may be supportive of armed struggle. Centrist Marxism: 72.5% Centrist Marxism is a form of Marxism that adopts Marxist views on society and the economy while also refraining from taking a definitive position on revolution and reformism. Many Centrist Marxists may also be more nationalistic than other Marxists. Council Communism: 70% Council Communism is a form of Marxism that advocates for workers councils being the core foundation of a socialist society. Council Communists generally oppose the existence of strong influence from political parties within the socialist political system, favoring council democracy. Social Democracy: 40.2% Social Democracy is a centre-left ideology that advocates for mixing left-leaning values such as social welfare and corporate regulation with capitalism and liberal democracy in the form of a mixed economy. Many modern Social Democrats favor Keynesian economics. Democratic Socialism: 29.7% Democratic Socialism is a form of socialism that seeks to utilize liberal democracy as a means to achieve a socialist economy and society. Democratic Socialist reject revolution and a centrally planned economy, instead supporting moderate social ownership in the form of publicly owned utilities and democratic workplace self-management. Anarcho-Communism: 28.9% Anarcho-Communism is a form of anarchism that advocates for the abolition of capitalism and the state, as well as the collective ownership of the means of production. Anarcho-Communists support a decentralized economy and government, with Anarcho-Syndicalism being a common way of organizing such a society. Eco-Anarchism: 15.6% Eco-Anarchism, or Green Anarchism, is a form of anarchism that places a particular emphasis on environmental issues. It is often linked to more distinct ideologies such as Anarcho-Syndicalism. Eco-Anarchists are generally revolutionary and support using a decentralized egalitarian economy to achieve environmental goals. Utopian Socialism: 12.2% Utopian Socialism is a form of pre-Marxist socialism that believes highly in an egalitarian, moralistic and idealistic foundation for a socialist society. Utopian Socialists generally reject violent revolution and often believe the ruling class can be convinced to adopt socialism. Market Anarchism: 0% Market Anarchism is a form of anarchism that mixes anarchist goals such as the abolition of hierarchy, the state and capitalism with heightened individualism and a moderate reformist approach. This should not be confused with Anarcho-Capitalism.
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# ? Apr 28, 2020 02:33 |
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Cobalt-60 posted:
Kautsky
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# ? Apr 28, 2020 06:28 |
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# ? Apr 28, 2020 06:28 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 14:43 |
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There, now stop libeling me as a loving anarchist.
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# ? May 7, 2020 00:09 |