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Lmao that reporter is such an rear end in a top hat holy gently caress
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Ghostlight posted:OH Thank goodness you said that
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Apr 30, 2020 00:42
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The Simpsons in its early years had the same cultural reception as Family Guy or South Park. All of the real media had to poo poo all over it because it was just obscene cartoons for morons.
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Apr 30, 2020 00:43
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Family guy and (to a lesser extent) South Park are just vulgar cartoons for morons. Nothing can match the early Simpsons.
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Apr 30, 2020 00:47
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It's contextual. In 1989 The Simpsons was extremely transgressive. Remember the episodes where Bart sells his soul, or where Homer quits going to church? Those were literally banned in some parts of the world when they first aired because they were considered offensive and blasphemous. Cultural attitudes were different 30 years ago. If you showed someone in 1989 a Quagmire episode of Family Guy they'd probably call it pornography.
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Apr 30, 2020 00:53
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mind the walrus posted:Lmao that reporter is such an rear end in a top hat holy gently caress
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Apr 30, 2020 01:10
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Sagebrush posted:It's contextual. In 1989 The Simpsons was extremely transgressive. Remember the episodes where Bart sells his soul, or where Homer quits going to church? Those were literally banned in some parts of the world when they first aired because they were considered offensive and blasphemous. Cultural attitudes were different 30 years ago. It was transgressive but there was still a lot of people thinking "Cartoons for adults? My my, how novel, like a bearded lady or a bat boy."
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Apr 30, 2020 01:13
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I think the one where Homer gets a gun is the first (only?) one to not air in the UK when new, presumably because we don't really have guns here, but it was used to shift DVDs or VHSs with a never-before-seen ep. I've been spotting stuff that didn't make the previous UK edit on Disney+ actually. Linda McCartney talked about her food range in a bit I had no recollection of, which presumably fell foul of product placement rules here.
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Apr 30, 2020 01:14
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BizarroAzrael posted:I think the one where Homer gets a gun is the first (only?) one to not air in the UK when new, presumably because we don't really have guns here, but it was used to shift DVDs or VHSs with a never-before-seen ep. I remember the UK terrestrial premiere of The City of New York vs Homer Simpson, was indefinitely delayed past the planned date of Oct 2001.
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Apr 30, 2020 01:33
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I remember as a kid my own parents having a problem with some of the episodes, like Homer thinking about having an affair with Mindy ("They were talking about having sex! I thought this was a kids show?!") or the squishee one which was basically a metaphor for taking drugs. I think it got upgraded to a PG rating after some complaints with one or two episodes being aired later in the evening if they had too many adult themes (whatever was too many at the time).
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Apr 30, 2020 01:37
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TheMostFrench posted:I remember as a kid my own parents having a problem with some of the episodes, like Homer thinking about having an affair with Mindy ("They were talking about having sex! I thought this was a kids show?!") or the squishee one which was basically a metaphor for taking drugs. I think it got upgraded to a PG rating after some complaints with one or two episodes being aired later in the evening if they had too many adult themes (whatever was too many at the time). I wasn't allowed to watch the Simpsons because the first episode my family and I watched together was the stripper episode from Season One.
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Apr 30, 2020 03:36
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Summers with the grandparents were my "No Simpsons" breaks oh god I'm so old. Granddad called the Simpsons "Dumbheads".
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Apr 30, 2020 04:16
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TheMostFrench posted:or the squishee one which was basically a metaphor for taking drugs. I thought it was a reference to people getting press ganged onto ships while on benders.
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Apr 30, 2020 04:45
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Man, I can't imagine my parents not letting me watch the Simpsons. Literally. I'm a couple of years older than the show and it's one of those that I remember we watched new episodes as a family at least up until I was in high school, which is around when it started sucking. I admittedly don't remember much from kindergarten, but still.
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Apr 30, 2020 05:28
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My mum didn't really like me or my younger brother watching it, but eventually one of the local channels started playing reruns for 5 hours in a row every Saturday and Sunday, so I think she just sort of gave up after that. This was late 90s, early 2000s (and the show is a year or two older than me)
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Apr 30, 2020 05:44
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These days people don't let their kids watch the Simpsons because it sucks. 
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Drink-Mix Man posted:These days people don't let their kids watch the Simpsons because it sucks. What? I thought those parental filters kept it to the first 10 seasons?
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Apr 30, 2020 06:32
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My parents were watching the show since like season 1 and we would watch it together as a family. Then again my parents let me watch George Carlin when I was in elementary school, so they were kinda weird in that respect
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Apr 30, 2020 07:00
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The most hosed up thing The Simpsons has ever done is the "fog that turns people inside out" bit from the end of the fifth treehouse of horrors episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4chSOb3bY6Y That is some legit body horror right there man. To be clear, I don't mean hosed up as in "bad", just hosed up as in "ah poo poo! I can't believe the censors let that one through". Anyway, the gag of Willie dying in each segment of Treehouse of Horror V (and then showing up and dancing alive but skinless in the credits) is one of the greatest bits the show has ever done, now back to memes: https://twitter.com/iresimpsonsfans/status/1254716401639731201?s=20 https://twitter.com/iresimpsonsfans/status/1254435623404032000?s=20 https://twitter.com/iresimpsonsfans/status/1253984804921622528?s=20
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Even has his dear brick.
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Ghostlight posted:I kind of loved how she was like "wow so your cartoon came from drawing ugly Charlie Browns" because it reminded me of a documentary I watched about an Australian cartoon where the guy was just like "most of this grew out of me drawing ugly Homer Simpsons" I'm guessing that's The Big Lez Show, do you have a link to the documentary? edit:nevermind, I think I found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWvY84ajvfI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN4C18ve3LQ The Sausages fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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Apr 30, 2020 09:58
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Yes it was and it wasn't that one it was this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clzZzgGEzP0
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Apr 30, 2020 13:32
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Sagebrush posted:It's contextual. In 1989 The Simpsons was extremely transgressive. Remember the episodes where Bart sells his soul, or where Homer quits going to church? Those were literally banned in some parts of the world when they first aired because they were considered offensive and blasphemous. Cultural attitudes were different 30 years ago. Being fair "Homer the Heretic" and "Bart Sells His Soul" were aired in 1992 and 1995, respectively. Like for real do you even know that only one episode of the Simpsons actually aired in 1989? People act like The Simpsons was this late 80s staple but unless you were trendy and had HBO, the Simpsons began in 1990 for all practical purposes. quote:If you showed someone in 1989 a Quagmire episode of Family Guy they'd probably call it pornography. Who What Now posted:It was transgressive but there was still a lot of people thinking "Cartoons for adults? My my, how novel, like a bearded lady or a bat boy."
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Well, by the time Family Guy came around, the groundwork had already been laid by The Simpsons, Beavis and Butthead and South Park. Family guy wasn't clever. It was just mean. But it was past the point of anyone being outraged. The early seasons of South Park had as much vitriol aimed at it, as early Simpsons and Beavis and Butthead. I know I watched SP from when it very first started up until.....the 8th season, I think. Also watched Simpsons on Sundays, so I remember alot of the classic episodes. I'm 36.
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mind the walrus posted:Being fair "Homer the Heretic" and "Bart Sells His Soul" were aired in 1992 and 1995, respectively. Like for real do you even know that only one episode of the Simpsons actually aired in 1989? People act like The Simpsons was this late 80s staple but unless you were trendy and had HBO, the Simpsons began in 1990 for all practical purposes. 1990 was technically part of the 80's. 1 BC was immediately followed by 1 AD. But in a more accurate way, it was a 90's show.
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Literally Kermit posted:1990 was technically part of the 80's. 1 BC was immediately followed by 1 AD. Humanity immediately stopped caring about this kind of pedantry around approximately 10ad.
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On the subject of Simpsons watching when we were kids: I remember loving the hell out of it and my dad did room but my mother didn't like the idea of me picking up some of the "crude" behaviour. She was worried no would try to copy Bart's on screen a antics. The real issue however was my brother who has very pronounced Asperger's as until his 20s when he learnt to manage better. He was a very uncommunicative child early on, had issues with behaviour management and was basically a mirror for whatever behaviour was around him because he was unable to build real communication skills himself. He loved the Simpsons and I think when he got to about 5 my mother was unable to stop our dad from letting us watch as much as we wanted. So because it was entering to him and he was super exposed to it he basically communicated to the world using only Simpsons quotes for about 3 or 4 years of his life. He was a literal living encyclopedia of the show and could reproduce entire episodes from memory with the voices, something he'd do when he was bored and wanted to entertain himself. Unfortunately he also picked up the idea that attempting to choke people who made him angry was normal, thanks Homer. As an adult he is very amused by the rise of Simpsons memes. We send them back and forth and one of us will go "Remember when you were a kid." Anyway that's my Simpsons adjacent story.
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Imagine being able to only communicate using Simpsons references. Worst communication method ever.
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e.pilot posted:Imagine being able to only communicate using Simpsons references. FTFY
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Gridlocked posted:On the subject of Simpsons watching when we were kids: So your brother is like that one Rebecca Sugar story, but hopefully without the car accident part.
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The last few posts remind me of that comic where two friends quote Simpsons at each other, then one gets a TBE from a car crash and it's the only way he can communicate. In the end he's laying in a hospital bed and says "Can I go now?" Ed: Found it, and holy crap, it's Rebecca Sugar https://imgur.com/gallery/ZsACh 2nd ED: Beaten, but I linked the comic CzarChasm fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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Apr 30, 2020 15:45
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Grumio posted:FTFY I hope somebody is fired for that blunder.
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If any of you are interested in the beginnings of the Simpsons, how it got started, what world existed that allowed it to flourish, and just how the show got made, I strongly recommended The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History by John Ortved. It is an exceptional read about the first decade of the show. Tracy Ullman being super bitter about the Simpsons because she thought that they sabotaged her show; and not the fact that it was an overly-cerebral sketch show that America just didn't care about. It regularly had over an hour downtime between sketches because there was so much makeup, costumes, and set breakdown, that the audience on set would understandably get bored and wander off - and word got out quick the only reason to go was to see all the Simpsons shorts they fed to them between skits. Something that was true of the broadcast version of the show as well. Of course, she claimed it sabotaged her only after it was settled in court that no, she does not get any sort of money on the back end from the Simpsons. James L Brooks slowly forcing Sam Simon out because the episode where Mr. Burns needs rare blood from Bart is a 1-to-1 retelling of what happened happened with Brooks' illness. (including the company memo from Smithers/Richard Sakai saying 'you should be so lucky to have your blood in someone so important') Matt Groening being a writers room pariah because he would only barely participate in writing, layout, and general production of episodes, but would unapologetically take full credit for every step of the process in the hundreds of interviews he did, then fight to make sure no one but him got merchandising checks. It's really good.
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e.pilot posted:I hope somebody is fired for that blunder. Why would someone who's avatar says "West Coast Roadie Patrol" spend all his time quoting a children's cartoon show? 
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Rarity posted:Why would someone who's avatar says "West Coast Roadie Patrol" spend all his time quoting a children's cartoon show? 
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holttho posted:If any of you are interested in the beginnings of the Simpsons, how it got started, what world existed that allowed it to flourish, and just how the show got made, I strongly recommended The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History by John Ortved. It is an exceptional read about the first decade of the show. I love the fact Brooks was the one with the early illness but it was Simon that died first. IMO Simon was the funnier one that helped drive the humor of the show over Brooks, but Brooks has been there for what feels like eternity that I suspect Simon would've slipped as well if he was on the show for as long.
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Literally Kermit posted:1990 was technically part of the 80's. 1 BC was immediately followed by 1 AD. That doesn't have anything to do with decade shorthand like "the 80s". Congratulations you're pedantic AND stupid. What a dud.
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The Simpsons is a bit of an unusual example since it's both during and iconically of the 90s, being a relatively relevant social commentary of the times. A lot of media tends to be a while behind what it ends up getting associated with.
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Android Apocalypse posted:IMO Simon was the funnier one that helped drive the humor of the show over Brooks, but Brooks has been there for what feels like eternity that I suspect Simon would've slipped as well if he was on the show for as long. Eh, it's kinda 'which paintbrush is responsible for the masterpiece' sort of thing. They all brought their voice to the show and with very few exceptions, no one wrote individual parts of the show. Simon was definitely the sharp one of the group, but we're only talking about it now because of Brooks' syrup and Groenings acid made something that stood the test of time. That, and the first three years writers room -even at the time- was known as a dream-team of writers. That then set the stage for the next few years because since the original group was the team everyone looked to and wanted to be on, the producers had their pick of the litter or writers for the golden age of Simpsons. It was never really in question that the show would do well (certainly they couldn't have predicted to what extent, though), the only thing in question was whether or not Fox would be able to keep the lights on. They knew they had a hot property, and from top to bottom they put together the strongest team the world of TV could muster. Which is why the all the interviews went to Groening for interviews. "Long-time smart successful TV producers produce another successful smart TV show" is not an interesting headline. "Starving artist outsider cartoonist strikes it rich" sells so much better. And as it turned out, Groening drank a bit too much of his own Kool-aid that he made in the interviews and got too big for his own britches in the eyes of the writers and show runners. He fought constantly against the better judgment of the people who actually knew how to make the show citing his own interviews as his position of power and had to be constantly reminded that being a cartoonist does not a show-runner make.
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