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Unoriginal Name posted:They should, but not you, apparently Nah, come on. Tell us what conclusive evidence there is that Joe Biden raped Reade. You don't have any. All you have is a bunch of conflicting accounts from people from Reade's past, each of whom were carefully coached before they talked to the media. Look, if Reade testifies under oath like Dr. Ford did, I will 100% believe her just like I believed Dr. Ford. So far though, the entire thing looks to have been designed to linger for the longest amount of time without any actual resolution, because whoever is behind the story knows that it will fester amongst both conservatives and disillusioned bernie bros. We are seeing the evidence of the latter in this very thread. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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enraged_camel posted:"Alleged" rapist. Unless, of course, you believe in guilt before actual proof? this is bad
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I swear to God I'm not posting under two accounts and doing a bit, I wouldn't be this obvious about it
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yea, that was what i got in response!
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enraged_camel posted:Nah, come on. Tell us what conclusive evidence there is that Joe Biden raped Reade. “I feel like doing x. Should I?” “Yeah”Is all that happened for one guy. It was dumb for that guy to answer but it does not mean that writer carefully coached every witness. Especially since we have a witness(plus another possibly)who came independently without Tara asking her. Rockit fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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enraged_camel posted:Nah, come on. Tell us what conclusive evidence there is that Joe Biden raped Reade. Yeah, I’m sure women are just jumping at the opportunity to be the next Dr. Ford 
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Apr 30, 2020 08:22
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enraged_camel posted:Nah, come on. Tell us what conclusive evidence there is that Joe Biden raped Reade. what the gently caress is wrong with you
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Apr 30, 2020 08:26
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Unoriginal Name posted:what the gently caress is wrong with you Stop dodging and answer the question.
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Stickman posted:Yeah, I’m sure women are just jumping at the opportunity to be the next Dr. Ford Tara is on the record willing to go under oath. The problem is being able to do that on something past the statue of limitations.
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enraged_camel posted:Stop dodging and answer the question. was there a question in your weird denialism?
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enraged_camel posted:yea, that was what i got in response! and it left enough of an impression that you decided to copy/paste it, evidently
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Apr 30, 2020 08:28
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like maybe you should.describe what exactly you think #BelieveWomen is all about i'll give you a hint, it's not court testimony
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enraged_camel posted:yea, that was what i got in response! Now's the part where you tell us how what you've posted here is different from what that friend of yours wrote, even though it's almost verbatim.
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Majorian posted:Now's the part where you tell us how what you've posted here is different from what that friend of yours wrote, even though it's almost verbatim. look, women are like Armenians, they pretend to have suffered horrible things at the hands of people enraged camel identifies with, just to hurt them, all the time. possibly due to the influence of some malevolent outside power trying to humiliate him. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Unoriginal Name posted:like maybe you should.describe what exactly you think #BelieveWomen is all about It's actually about ethics in political journalism.
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Apr 30, 2020 08:33
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Rockit posted:Tara is on the record willing to go under oath. That's good, but I'm not very optimistic about what would happen to her. I don't like the implication that women need to put themselves through Dr. Ford's ordeal before we'll believe them. Stickman fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:look, women are like Armenians, they pretend to have suffered horrible things at the hands of people enraged camel identifies with, just to hurt them, all the time. possibly due to the influence of some malevolent outside power trying to humiliate him. i feel like possibly there's some non-racist way you can make this argument, but idk it's DnD in 2020 Raskolnikov38 posted:this forum would be less tiresome if the facade that liberals care about anything other than getting trump out of office (so that they can go back to brunch) was dropped You come into a place you literally never post and are making assumptions about what people here believe that have zero basis in reality. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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If you think about it At least Biden keeps the rape and child cages separate, so he might not be as bad as Epstein. Low bar to clear, but makes u think.
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Rockit posted:“I feel like doing x. Should I?” “Yeah”Is all that happened for one guy. Wait there are witnesses now?
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Delthalaz posted:Wait there are witnesses now? No.
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Majorian posted:Now's the part where you tell us how what you've posted here is different from what that friend of yours wrote, even though it's almost verbatim. That's... pretty straightforward? At the time I had that conversation with said friend, Dr. Ford had already given her testimony under oath, and Kavanaugh's defense had very clear and obvious gaps and contradictions that shed doubt on what he was claiming. That's when the American Bar Association and the Jesuit Magazine came out against Kavanaugh. Which my friend still did not think was good enough, and went on that tirade, and declared that the only evidence he was willing to accept was actual "hard" evidence like a video or a photo showing the assault occurring. So I got frustrated and posted the email that you quoted. Unoriginal Name posted:like maybe you should.describe what exactly you think #BelieveWomen is all about I already described it: believe all women, take their accusations seriously and do your due diligence by investigating thoroughly. It doesn't mean "believe everything they are saying immediately and without any further question, and start calling the accuser a 'rapist'". You understand that, don't you? Stickman posted:That's good, but I'm not very optimistic about what would happen to her. O_o what actually think would happen to her?
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To reiterate:Herstory Begins Now posted:It appears that a lot of people have confused 'both sides are full of terrible people' (which is an exceptionally true statement about washington politics) with 'both sides are the same on a policy level' (which is an exceptionally stupid statement about washington politics) If anyone here is actually trying to make the claim that trump's policies are better then oooooooh boy aint that some poo poo
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Delthalaz posted:Wait there are witnesses now? Not direct witnesses, but her neighbor (a longtime Biden supporter) came forward a couple days ago and said "Yeah, Tara told me about it in the mid-90's." enraged_camel posted:That's... pretty straightforward? At the time I had that conversation with said friend, Dr. Ford had already given her testimony under oath, and Kavanaugh's defense had very clear and obvious gaps and contradictions that shed doubt on what he was claiming. That's when the American Bar Association and the Jesuit Magazine came out against Kavanaugh. Which my friend still did not think was good enough, and went on that tirade, and declared that the only evidence he was willing to accept was actual "hard" evidence like a video or a photo showing the assault occurring. So I got frustrated and posted the email that you quoted. It really sounds to me like there's no amount of evidence short of a video or a photo of Biden sexually assaulting someone that you will accept. Majorian fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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enraged_camel posted:O_o what actually think would happen to her? She'll face death threats, be harassed for years (probably longer), and very likely suffer in her personal and professional life?
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enraged_camel posted:That's... pretty straightforward? At the time I had that conversation with said friend, Dr. Ford had already given her testimony under oath, and Kavanaugh's defense had very clear and obvious gaps and contradictions that shed doubt on what he was claiming. That's when the American Bar Association and the Jesuit Magazine came out against Kavanaugh. Which my friend still did not think was good enough, and went on that tirade, and declared that the only evidence he was willing to accept was actual "hard" evidence like a video or a photo showing the assault occurring. So I got frustrated and posted the email that you quoted. The evidence against Joe Biden seems if anything a little stronger than the evidence against Kav. I mean, in addition to contemporary testimony we have copious video evidence of Joe publicly being an enormous creep to women.
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Majorian posted:It really sounds to me like there's no amount of evidence short of a video or a photo of Biden sexually assaulting someone that you will accept. enraged_camel posted:Look, if Reade testifies under oath like Dr. Ford did, I will 100% believe her just like I believed Dr. Ford. Do you not know how to read, or what?
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Sure is hard picking out which rapist should be president.
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Stickman posted:She'll face death threats, be harassed for years (probably longer), and very likely suffer in her personal and professional life? Yes, most likely, and I hate that. But I want to go back to what you said: Stickman posted:I don't like the implication that women need to put themselves through Dr. Ford's ordeal before we'll believe them. So what is your suggestion, then? Keep in mind that a sworn testimony does not have to be a public spectacle like Dr. Ford's. It can happen behind closed doors, in front of a grand jury (for example).
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1255599243840159747 This devastating. DEVASTATING. I don't know how ol' Donny Trump will recover from this  
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Because I am a very enlightened and good poster, I am not asking the rape apologist to elaborate further. Instead I'm just screenshotting these posts for later reposting when they age like the warm piss they are
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enraged_camel posted:Do you not know how to read, or what? I do, I just don't believe you, given the tenor of this conversation. You've sounded about as close to a Kavanaugh defender as you possibly could.
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Majorian posted:I do, I just don't believe you, given the tenor of this conversation. You've sounded about as close to a Kavanaugh defender as you possibly could. Wait, there are people here who are unironically calling Joe Biden a rapist, and you are blaming me for the "tenor" of the conversation?
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This is the weirdest banme I've seen in awhile.
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Its weird having a mental breakdown over a sex pest rapist. What a strange hill to die on.
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enraged_camel posted:Wait, there are people here who are unironically calling Joe Biden a rapist, and you are blaming me for the "tenor" of the conversation? I really never thought I'd see  brain demonstrated so plainly.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I really never thought I'd see Right?!
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Lol, the circling of wagons by some posters around Biden in here with regard to his history of sexual assault is so loving pathetic. These shitlibs are so goddamned desperate to be rid of the most immoral president in modern history that they've completely selling out whatever progressive values they claim to have.
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enraged_camel posted:Do you not know how to read, or what? question: why do you put so much faith in our justice system when it has failed us so many times before? like, there's an example right there that you mentioned as part of your bullshit means-testing demands: dr. ford did exactly that and got worse than nothing for it. why do you feel that tara reade should be subjected to the same before you "believe" her?
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Or maybe some of us understand that the country as a whole is not cspam and rose twitter and we need to build up a ground movement in the states and locals to change the way that the federal goverment looks. And that electing the orange shithead for 4 more years is going to cost many of us our healthcare and lives and possible start a war because he poo poo himself this morning and blamed (insert asian or middle east country) For people that progress to be progressive you are wildly unable to look past your own group and ideals. There is more to the world and to this country then the echo chamber you keep your head in. You need to look at the local levels to enact an actual change, and because we don't have a literal propaganda arm in fox news and the koch brothers it builds slowly. We have seen the effects that a buildup and network can cause in Virginia, and it should serve as the bedrock for what we do across the country, not this idiotic and stupid attacking that is going on because people can't comprehend that the majority of the country does not think the way you do.
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