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Flopsy posted:Ayyyyy! I've seen hot takes of people complaining about the "let's go shopping" scene as some out-of-nowhere shipper pandering scene. Some folks just have bad and wrong opinions.
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My nuclear-hot take on the plot is that they're not gonna kill Aeris this time around - that was the whole point of getting rid of destiny ghosts. Might give a psych-out (like they did with Biggs) but she'll come back at or before the ending. Gameplay-wise, is there something you can do with the automated shop in Wall Market? In the OG you could do some stuff to get it to work but I haven't figured anything out for this one. e: VVV Well then I'll stop banging my head against it. SubponticatePoster fucked around with this message at 01:29 on May 1, 2020 |
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May 1, 2020 01:26
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SubponticatePoster posted:My nuclear-hot take on the plot is that they're not gonna kill Aeris this time around - that was the whole point of getting rid of destiny ghosts. Might give a psych-out (like they did with Biggs) but she'll come back at or before the ending. In the OG you got Tifa’s ultimate weapon there when you return to Midgar. I think in the Remake it’s just an Easter egg.
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Jimbot posted:I've seen hot takes of people complaining about the "let's go shopping" scene as some out-of-nowhere shipper pandering scene. Some folks just have bad and wrong opinions. Nah she still dies. She realizes that the killing of the whispers was actually part of Sephiroth's plan all along to keep her from joining with the lifestream to stop him. The fun part is her having to convince the rest of the party that it's absolutely necessary for them to defeat him.
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May 1, 2020 01:42
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Proteus Jones posted:Nah she still dies. She realizes that the killing of the whispers was actually part of Sephiroth's plan all along to keep her from joining with the lifestream to stop him. The fun part is her having to convince the rest of the party that it's absolutely necessary for them to defeat him. Kind of defeats the point of her death in the first place tbh Jimbot posted:I've seen hot takes of people complaining about the "let's go shopping" scene as some out-of-nowhere shipper pandering scene. Some folks just have bad and wrong opinions. This poo poo is right up there with folks who moan about how the localization isn't a 100% verbatim translation of the Japanese and how english voice actors just can't recreate the "nuance".
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May 1, 2020 01:57
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What was the black shaking when Marlene hugged Aerith supposed to be? I'm guessing you're not supposed to know yet since Marlene only mentions it cryptically later?
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night slime posted:What was the black shaking when Marlene hugged Aerith supposed to be? I'm guessing you're not supposed to know yet since Marlene only mentions it cryptically later? aeris did something similar when she calmed down red xiii my guess is that she's zapping them with a limited knowledge of future events to reassure them that everything will be okay/they can trust her and her allies i guess red didn't get the bit where cloud kicks a soccer ball at him for twenty consecutive minutes
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May 1, 2020 02:06
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Maybe she made him like soccer
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there's nothing in the rulebook that says a magical flaming catdog can't etc etc
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Oxxidation posted:there's nothing in the rulebook that says a magical flaming catdog can't etc etc I''m calling your bluff, I don't think you've ever actually read the rulebook!
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May 1, 2020 03:01
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Flopsy posted:Ayyyyy! it took Cloud like four times to understand that Aerith wanted a high five while Tifa got it first try, js
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May 1, 2020 03:13
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morallyobjected posted:it took Cloud like four times to understand that Aerith wanted a high five while Tifa got it first try, js  The Aeifa theme song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUQALX7twYE
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Oxxidation posted:aeris did something similar when she calmed down red xiii Yeah Red XIII says he saw a bit of the future when she zapped him. That said I think there might be something going on with Marlene given the ending. Maybe it’ll turn out her mother had a Cetra ancestor or something.
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I'm a fan of the "Marlene's a secret Cetra" theory myself. Did Aerith only ever do that zap thing with Marlene and Red XIII because they were the only characters she needed to calm down in a hurry? Maybe. Or did she do it because they're also Close To The Planet like she is??? makes u think
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May 1, 2020 03:25
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Harrow posted:I'm a fan of the "Marlene's a secret Cetra" theory myself. Im a fan too. in the original ending you see Marlene sense Aerith when the lifestream is summoned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Dqy2jVqY0&t=290s (also hi im new here I thought SA had good discussion about ff7 remake so i registered)
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chandler55 posted:Im a fan too. in the original ending you see Marlene sense Aerith when the lifestream is summoned Very interesting! I think I'm starting to believe this myself. Also, welcome! I think Aeris will die. I think we'll have a fakeout where she survives her original death scene, but poo poo's gonna get even worse from there. I think Sephiroth will avoid messing with her, considering it was partially his undoing last time. So we have three ways that this can progress, I think: - The party prevents Sephiroth from acquiring the Black Materia (not gonna happen for dramatic purposes) - Sephiroth summons Meteor, Aeris is alive, and they figure out another way to stop it. - Sephiroth summons Meteor, Aeris is alive, and for whatever reason she has to engineer her own death. Last Temptation poo poo.
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Beefstew posted:Very interesting! I think I'm starting to believe this myself. Also, welcome! Prefer the middle one tbh.
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May 1, 2020 04:41
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Aerith tries to engineer her own death because she thinks she has to but the group convinces her not to and it's very emotional and touching and anime as gently caress. 
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May 1, 2020 05:01
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BaDandy posted:Aerith tries to engineer her own death because she thinks she has to but the group convinces her not to and it's very emotional and touching and anime as gently caress. The power of friendship is more powerful than the power of sacrifice.
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May 1, 2020 05:21
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And then Tifa and Aerith KISS We're at thinking levels that shouldn't be possible.
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Beefstew posted:Very interesting! I think I'm starting to believe this myself. Also, welcome! -Aerith summons Meteor after Cloud runs off with
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https://twitter.com/SunhiLegend/status/1252014813477244932
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:-Aerith summons Meteor after Cloud runs off with Why would she when Tifa's like RIGHT THERE and ready for smoochin'? BaDandy posted:Aerith tries to engineer her own death because she thinks she has to but the group convinces her not to and it's very emotional and touching and anime as gently caress. YES. YOU GET IT.  BaDandy is bringing in the big brain energy today.
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Harrow posted:I'm a fan of the "Marlene's a secret Cetra" theory myself. In the original she feels Aerith and the lifestream during the ending. In AC all the children get the geostigma, except her, and remains unaffected even when all the kids dip in Kadaj's bath waters and get mind controlled. Then near the end of AC when Cloud is having his anime fight vs Sephiroth she feels Aerith again. Now in 7R she sees something when hugging Aerith and the latter tells her to keep it a secret. When she is later talking with Barret she says "that flower girl, she was kinda..." and stops. Then finally at the ending when Barret is calling out to her from the edge of Midgar, she hears him. Marlene is all but confirmed to be a secret Cetra at this point. RatHat posted:That said I think there might be something going on with Marlene given the ending. Maybe it’ll turn out her mother had a Cetra ancestor or something. There might actually be some stuff in the original that in hindsight could be interpreted as Dyne actually being a secret Cetra. He was the first to oppose Shinra building a mako reactor in Corel, maybe he knew what mako really was? Plus when Barret meets him in the desert prison he says something along the lines of "my dead wife is telling me not to kill you" and "i need to kill Marlene so that we can all join her mother". Crazy talk, but maybe there was more to it? I hope it's this and they go for it in part 2. Narratively it would draw some parallels to Sephiroth with Dyne's whole "I want to destroy the whole world" thing, and would also work as a foil to Aerith, him being driven mad by the voices of the planet and the world being general poo poo, and her embracing her Cetra ancestry as a gift and not a curse, which could then be tied with vvvvvvv BaDandy posted:Aerith tries to engineer her own death because she thinks she has to but the group convinces her not to and it's very emotional and touching and anime as gently caress. Yeah, it's definitely this. That was the point of that whole scene where the whispers are surrounding Aerith and Tifa pulls her out and tells her they'll figure something out together. lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 06:11 on May 1, 2020 |
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This time, Aerith lives, but meteor still arrives and holy can't stop it and oh no.....! Except then the lifestream appears, and as it rushes to save the planet, we see the smiling face of.... Dyne! Roll credits. Epilogue: Aerith and Tifa kiss.
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lezard_valeth posted:In the original she feels Aerith and the lifestream during the ending. Also I kinda feel like the lesson Aerith learned at the end of part one was to stop being so fatalistic. Everything she does initially is done with the knowledge she's going to have to die for everyone. I feel like the whole point was breaking her out of this kind of linear thinking and how thrilling and terrifying that is. I dunno...I feel like it would be just a tad pissy to be like SIKE you can't defy fate after all! gently caress YOU SHE'S DEAD...AGAIN
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Flopsy posted:YES. YOU GET IT. Are you ready for my big brain prediction about how Cloud and Sephiroth will go before I go to bed and forget I had the thought? Here it is.  lezard_valeth posted:Dyne stuff Oh that...actually makes a ton of sense. drat. :o
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Schwartzcough posted:Epilogue: Aerith and Tifa kiss. The FFXIII ending but with Aerith and Tifa
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lezard_valeth posted:The FFXIII ending but with Aerith and Tifa XV
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lezard_valeth posted:The FFVIII ending but with Aerith and Tifa
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The part of Zell choking down hot dogs is played by Cid choking down tea.
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BaDandy posted:Are you ready for my big brain prediction about how Cloud and Sephiroth will go before I go to bed and forget I had the thought? Here it is. So you think Cloud is going to be so sick of Sephiroth's poo poo he's just going to be like "Nah fam I ain't feeling it" and Sephiroth will be so disheartened by Cloud's lack of response he gives up?
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Agents are GO! posted:The part of Zell choking down hot dogs is played by Cid choking down tea. I applaud how clean you kept that.
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Agents are GO! posted:The part of Zell choking down hot dogs is played by Cid choking down tea. Only if he repeatedly punches the table while doing so.
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Dyne for Shinra's Mako profits.
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Schwartzcough posted:I applaud how clean you kept that. It was difficult. Here's a question: does the internet exist in FF7 world? I'd assume so, everyone has smartphones. I know it explicitly existed in FF8 and FF13.
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Agents are GO! posted:It was difficult. It does, but only in Midgar and Meteor took it down. It gets brought back up in Dirge of Cerberus, and it turns out Hojo uploaded his mind to it to hijack some other poor fool so he can keep doing mad science. DoC is an incredibly stupid game.
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BisbyWorl posted:It does, but only in Midgar and Meteor took it down. Not even touching the wildly disgusting implications with Shelke. Vincent does not and has never needed a permanently underage loli wife. Flopsy fucked around with this message at 08:02 on May 1, 2020 |
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Agents are GO! posted:Here's a question: does the internet exist in FF7 world? I'd assume so, everyone has smartphones. I know it explicitly existed in FF8 and FF13. it does but as far as I'm aware the only time it actually even gets mentioned in the original is when jessie says that she learned how to make bombs from the internet. in crisis core you have like, email and stuff, though.
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Flopsy posted:Not even touching the wildly disgusting implications with Shelve. Didn't he though? Really?
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