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Dingleberry posted:I dunno, if i was some E-3 on a .50, I might just start shooting, I mean can’t go on liberty anyways, and Donnie intervened in a war crime trial... Plus you get a free ride on the Republican grift train afterwards! Enjoy spending the next year of your life calling the rest of your crew cowards who are afraid to fight the enemy on Fox, Rush, and whatever else.
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Dorstein posted:Plus you get a free ride on the Republican grift train afterwards! Enjoy spending the next year of your life calling the rest of your crew cowards who are afraid to fight the enemy on Fox, Rush, and whatever else. Probably a house seat in some red state in it for you
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shame on an IGA posted:"Doctors of Education, Sport and Economic Sciences have a symbol with a flame, oil lamp, and a circle made up of rays of light." I also see a demonic summoning circle made out of fingerbones.
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all I see is the WTC, a dick, and some SS runes
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https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1255543666577375232?s=20 DJT knows Navy policy: STEM only, no liberal arts
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GODDAMN IT DO THE EASY THING
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Seriously of all the times to say it wasn’t his call he didn’t approve it.
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If only CAPT Crozier had brutally murdered helpless Arab women and children, only THEN could he MAGA this one
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noted extremely wordy man hemingway
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I need a news source on this so I can pump it on my FB wall. loving shameful.
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shovelbum posted:noted extremely wordy man hemingway lol
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shovelbum posted:noted extremely wordy man hemingway Right? Of all of the verbose authors he could have pulled from. The only thing I can think of is Trump thinking "The Old Man and the Sea" was a long book or something.
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https://news.usni.org/2020/04/30/fincantieri-wins-795m-contract-for-navy-frigate-program Hell yes. This is very good news for me, personally, but also I felt the fremm was the best option.
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That does sound like a suspiciously good decision. Eager to see how the navy manages to gently caress it up.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:That does sound like a suspiciously good decision. Eager to see how "Why is an ITALYAN company building ships for the YOU...ESS Navy? We build big beautiful tremendous ships out of ~American~ steel here in America, last I checked." 
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I was stationed in Naples and I don't trust the Italians to build anything more complicated than a five-course Sunday dinner They'd do a bang up job on that, though
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Fincantieri, which will build its frigate at its Marinette Marine shipyard in Wisconsin, Seems solid but it’s a win for a Blue State....
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Fincanterri are one of the best shipbuilders on the planet right now.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:That does sound like a suspiciously good decision. Eager to see how the navy manages to gently caress it up. By not melting down the LCS fleet to build them.
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LingcodKilla posted:Fincantieri, which will build its frigate at its Marinette Marine shipyard in Wisconsin, Wisconsin is extremely purple
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PneumonicBook posted:Wisconsin is extremely purple Well here’s hoping that’s enough and trump won’t torpedo it out of spite.
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FrozenVent posted:Fincanterri are one of the best shipbuilders on the planet right now. Yes, but unfortunately President Soundbite doesn't like things that can't be easily pronounciatable. 
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Good that the Navy will have a replacement for the OHP
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I'm amazed they actually picked the reasonable small boy design. Good job Fincantieri lobbyists!
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Eager to see how the navy manages to gently caress it up. Personally, I think it was when we emphasized survivability over lethality and got bigger than an LCS instead of smaller. quote:Under the contract, the Navy has rights to the technical data package for the ship and could compete the program down the road.
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piL posted:Personally, I think it was when we emphasized survivability over lethality and got bigger than an LCS instead of smaller. Dont feel great. In that article it talks about how the navy needs a faster more lethal version of the lcs as well. Lol. I would expect them to spin up another yard with these after 4 or so have been delivered though.
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Dorstein posted:I'm amazed they actually picked the reasonable small boy design. Good job Fincantieri lobbyists! It's 3/4 the weight and 50 ft short of burke. Seems pretty big no? piL posted:Personally, I think it was when we emphasized survivability over lethality and got bigger than an LCS instead of smaller. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFG(X)#/media/File:Proposed_Government_Furnished_Equipment_for_FFG(X).png I have a hard time seeing how the requirement for mk 41 32 VLS, 8 (16 objective) NSMs and spare power for a 150kw laser would fit in a smaller platform than the LCS. Also, these requirements seem quite a bit more lethal than either the LCS or the "up-gunned" LCS that was discussed for some time.
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Does the NSM have a tri-service number? RGM-something? Or have we just ditched that system entirely?
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TCD posted:It's 3/4 the weight and 50 ft short of burke. The FFGX will be leagues more capable than an LCS. I work on the CS side of the house so that's what I mostly care about and am super hype to soon be back working on an actual surface combatant, but the engineering plant not being an enormous mess is also going to be fantastic. Not to mention a proper training pipeline since everythings more or less program of record GFE!
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Madurai posted:Does the NSM have a tri-service number? RGM-something? Or have we just ditched that system entirely? Google says https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/10/nsm-naval-strike-missile-now-has-a-u-s-navy-designation/
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TCD posted:It's 3/4 the weight and 50 ft short of burke. That is ..............a lot of stuff to put on something smaller than a DDG.
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SquirrelyPSU posted:That is ..............a lot of stuff to put on something smaller than a DDG. Welcome to every other semi-modern fleet in the world. Aussie Perry class FFGs are armed to the loving teeth even compared to when ours still had the one-armed bandit. This thing is basically equivalent to the German Braunschweig Corvettes with a VLS system installed which isn't a stretch. On another note, I got my ORDMOD. Looking like I'm heading to ECRC in a week and staying there an extra week. >_>
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TCD posted:It's 3/4 the weight and 50 ft short of burke. For sure. But I also think there's room for a 4-cell VLS launcher and 4 NSMs with an outboard motor and Cooperative Engagement Capability. I think the frigate will be a powerful new platform, and valuable to the Navy. But, I think operating cost will end up being 80% of a DDG and so we're just saving money on construction/encouraging additional construction. I think stuff being GFE will be a supply godsend. This is still good news. But a pack of ten PLAN Type 22s has more missiles, cost 300million less to buy and 60 less personnel to operate than one of these, and we will not commit to that end of the spectrum because it doesn't have strike/asw/miw/amw/aviation/hadr capabilities.
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Sure, it's big. Sure it's expensive. That's the American Way now! At least it'll be able to Do Stuff! And when the planning failures inevitably come, it'll have a fighting chance; being able to contribute in missions where the LCS is mostly just a target with poor survivability. ... suddenly I wonder about the FREMM med bay.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Modularity with regards to weapons platforms just means a multiplicative amount of spending is necessary to maintain and equip said modules. Unless you design said module functionality in advance and with exact focus on them not becoming a feature creep. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/StanFlex the danes had some success with this by not trying to sell it as a panacea But a limited modularity.
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