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How do serums work? Is it that you only get a limited number of them dropping, or you can only use a certain number per character?
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Black Rabite trip report: Sacrifice Part 2 really had me expecting a second life bar and Sacrifice Part 3. Well, that wasn't so bad then. Shadow Angela was harder. Both of them have an I dare say Soulsborne sort of feel to them where you have to learn the openings, (lenient) dodge timings, and spacing management strategies so as not to get pasted.
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May 1, 2020 01:11
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So how do I get the Ultimate weapons? I am already class 4, but I'm using gold and rainbow seeds and still getting class 3 weapons and armor
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May 1, 2020 01:44
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Okay, I think I'm going to go Hawkeye/Riesz/Angela and just deal with not having healing, it's cool, I'm sure it'll be fine Any tips on class paths? I'm planning to go light for Riesz for the HP restore passive and buffs, but I don't know what's going to be the most fun for Hawkeye and Angela. Ninja Master and Grand Diviner seem popular? How are Hawkeye's light classes this time around (or would they not really offer much to this party in particular)?
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May 1, 2020 01:48
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Harrow posted:Okay, I think I'm going to go Hawkeye/Riesz/Angela and just deal with not having healing, it's cool, I'm sure it'll be fine If you're planning on making Riesz go Light, then just have Hawkeye go dark, and vice versa. They still have the skill overlap just like they did in the original if you have them both go light or dark.
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May 1, 2020 01:50
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Harrow posted:Okay, I think I'm going to go Hawkeye/Riesz/Angela and just deal with not having healing, it's cool, I'm sure it'll be fine I enjoyed Ninja Blade Hawkeye because with several skills he could just mash Triangle/Charge attack and instantly delete every non-boss enemy and then poo poo debuffs onto any boss enemy.
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May 1, 2020 01:50
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Ah, I didn't realize Riesz and Hawkeye had skill overlap. That makes it easy, dark Hawkeye it is. I can decide between Ninja Master and Nightblade when I get there, I guess. What about Angela? All I know is that she's ridiculously powerful, but are there any classes that are better or cooler than others for her?
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May 1, 2020 01:59
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Harrow posted:Okay, I think I'm going to go Hawkeye/Riesz/Angela and just deal with not having healing, it's cool, I'm sure it'll be fine LD Riesz for buffs, DL Hawk for debuffs. For Angela, either LL for Lucent Beam+ spam, or DD for Wound Magic and Ancient Curse.
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May 1, 2020 02:07
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It’s 2020 why aren’t these credits skippable? Please tell me they are skippable on repeat playthroughs.
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May 1, 2020 02:12
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lezard_valeth posted:So how do I get the Ultimate weapons? I am already class 4, but I'm using gold and rainbow seeds and still getting class 3 weapons and armor gandlethorpe posted:How do serums work? Is it that you only get a limited number of them dropping, or you can only use a certain number per character? Phayray posted:Can anyone confirm this? From the previous posts on this topic, it sounded like you had to plant all 6 at once to guarantee no duplicates. I was dumb and turned in the first one I got, but luckily got Necro for Charlotte. Now I'm sitting on 2 or 3 and trying to decide if I should pull the trigger or wait until I've got 6. The thing is (from what I've seen) that you shouldn't get a class item you can't use (IE, you get a Light/Light item for a character you've gone Dark with.) So you should definitely be able to class up no matter your RNG. Blackbelt Bobman posted:It’s 2020 why aren’t these credits skippable? EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 02:19 on May 1, 2020 |
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May 1, 2020 02:13
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Harrow posted:What about Angela? All I know is that she's ridiculously powerful, but are there any classes that are better or cooler than others for her? All her final classes are pretty good and distinct. Grand Divina - regains MP after fights, geared toward fighting non-bosses Archmage - buffs when spamming the same element, geared towards fighting bosses Rune Seer - only class that gets level 3 elemental spells Magus - meteor shower is OP, skimpiest armor The light T3 classes are more similar to each other than the dark ones, but more distinct than they were in the original. Going light also is more interesting in the mid game because she learns most of her spells at this point. The dark T2 class doesn't learn much, but the T3 dark classes are worth the wait.
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May 1, 2020 02:14
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EponymousMrYar posted:Rainbow Seeds only. Might need to be a high enough level to have them in the drop pool too. Aw ok, I'm level 70. Also JESUS CHRIST Kevin's Payback skills stack  . Annihilator with all 3 equipped, Riesz feeding him the cactus 200% CS at the beggining of battle and all random encounters are trivialised with a Suzaku Aerial 
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May 1, 2020 02:18
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It's not a direct 1:1 skill wise, but Light Hawkeye and Riesz are both heavily buff focussed while Dark Hawkeye and Riesz are debuffers. Ninja Master's multitarget skills are nothing to sneeze at but I think Nightblade is the more fun of the two. Nightblade brings three big things to the table: a 10% chance to instantly kill anything with a status effect each time he smacks it, a massive damage bonus against anything with a status effect, and three or four ways to poison everything. And that's on top of his debuffs. Hawkeye is a monster.
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May 1, 2020 02:20
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lezard_valeth posted:Aw ok, I'm level 70. You barely need the Cactus skill if you throw in Victory and/or Damage boost.
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You need the cactus skill and ring if you want to 1-button press every encounter in the post game dungeon that way 
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May 1, 2020 02:24
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lezard_valeth posted:Aw ok, I'm level 70. Wait 'til you see his final dark CS
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Is Anise's dungeon one of those dungeons where there is only 1 save point at the start?gandlethorpe posted:Wait 'til you see his final dark CS I got it, it's amazing looking, but Suzaku Aerial is more practical for trash mob aoe
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I'm just saying, that's what I've been doing and I have certainly not found many cacti. edit: seriously though, is there anything to spend all this loving money on? I have half a million lucre. YggiDee fucked around with this message at 02:34 on May 1, 2020 |
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May 1, 2020 02:25
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YggiDee posted:
Wouldn't be a Mana game if the main currency didn't become completely irrelevant 30% into the game
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May 1, 2020 02:36
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And the cactus keeps giving me discounts! I can't even use this money on naps!
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May 1, 2020 02:38
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lezard_valeth posted:Is Anise's dungeon one of those dungeons where there is only 1 save point at the start? There are several save points throughout, plus two shortcuts back to the start.
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May 1, 2020 02:43
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Lots of wares to browse!
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Lmao at Angela’s post-game trial gently caress this battle Edit: drat that was some poo poo but did it. Nice to have some real difficulty! Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 03:20 on May 1, 2020 |
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May 1, 2020 03:13
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How many hours are most people ending their first playthrough on? Is there any point to exploring maps beyond getting the lil Cactus and a few treasure chests with items from most stores?
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May 1, 2020 04:11
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Any issues with the PC port? I feel like I am on the edge of pulling the trigger
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Spacebump posted:How many hours are most people ending their first playthrough on? Is there any point to exploring maps beyond getting the lil Cactus and a few treasure chests with items from most stores? I was in the late 20s in my playthrough, but I got every treasure chest and all the Lil Cactus spawns. The treasure chests were very, very rarely worth seeking out for the random weapons a tier ahead of what current stores sell. I also left the game running while doing stuff around the house. So feel free to subtract however many hours from my total.
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Unlucky7 posted:Any issues with the PC port? I feel like I am on the edge of pulling the trigger I had none whatsoever. Buy now, regret never.
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May 1, 2020 04:16
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DoubleNegative posted:I was in the late 20s in my playthrough, but I got every treasure chest and all the Lil Cactus spawns. The treasure chests were very, very rarely worth seeking out for the random weapons a tier ahead of what current stores sell. I was at about 24ish hours on my first playthrough, but 4 or 5 of those were when I left the game idle. I think I'm at around 48ish hours now and about almost a third of the way through my third playthrough of the game. That 300% XP chain ability helps a lot on subsequent plays.
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May 1, 2020 04:28
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I finished everything including postgame (Anise, Black Rabite) at about 22 hours.
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May 1, 2020 04:33
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You get the individual story trophies for whichever characters are in your party when you beat the game, I just found out when I beat the game. So you only have to play through the game three times for platinum! Not too bad all things considered, since each playthrough would have a different main antagonist and end boss. I’m definitely gonna do it. I just gotta decide how I want to do my next playthrough with Kevin/Charlotte/Riesz...
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May 1, 2020 04:35
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lezard_valeth posted:Is Anise's dungeon one of those dungeons where there is only 1 save point at the start? No, there are a couple of other statues along the way, and warps back to the front (which become two-way) at the end and the "halfway" point. That first warp though feels like a LONG way in for a midpoint.
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So to get all the cheevos you need to beat the game three times and pick as your main character one of the following pairings each time since they share a final boss? Angela/Duran Riesz/Hawkeye Charlotte/Kevin Am I right?
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jokes posted:So to get all the cheevos you need to beat the game three times and pick as your main character one of the following pairings each time since they share a final boss? I don't think you need the pairing, just any of the 2 as a main character. But yes, minimum for all cheevos is 3 runs of any of those as MC
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May 1, 2020 05:58
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I just suddenly got the meta achievement for getting all the achievements... without having gotten all of the achievements. 
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Alright, I don't know if anyone has cracked the code and figured it out, but from multiple resets I can tell that the pool each seed rolls from are kinda fixed and probably determined from the moment you get the seed. I have 29 Rainbow Seeds I've been rerolling over and over like 20+ times, and the first 7 almost always result in Gigant Gloves-> Gigas Lance -> Fury Chocker -> Gigas Lance -> Gigant Glove->Guard Armor->Sigmund with some rolls sometimes resulting in a random consumable; seed 19 is either Oath Shield or Terrawax Shield; seed 20 almost always is Vedfolnir (Riesz dark class 4 weapon) or Ample Incense; seed 21 is almost always Lindform (Kevin's dark class 4 weapon) or a Luck Serum; seed 22 is Triumph Blade; and seed 29 is Flame Beads or Miracle Cookie. So with that knowledge in mind, you can probably save scum a few times to figure what each seed position generally rolls for, then roll one by one to get the best roll out of each. e: the first Rainbow Seeds I have are drawing from class 3 pool items because that's when I got them, and the first Rainbow Seed that gives me class 4 armor is for Kevin who was my first character that I got to class 4. e2:repeteadly opening seed number 3, and getting Fury Choker consistently e3: alright, made a chart to keep track, it seems each seed rolls between 3 different items, from the sample of 10 seeds i've been rerolling I got: 1 gigas lance 2 gigant glove/str serum/medical herb 3 Magic Elixir/guard armor 4 Sigmund/ample Incense 5 Nivel Ring/magic Elixir/faerie walnut 6 Ferocity Fang/imp eye 7 Miracle Cookie/Doyenne Armor/bumpkin 8 Nivel Ring 9 Oracle Helmet 10 Doyenne Armor lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 07:04 on May 1, 2020 |
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So two things about ??? seeds I found tonight. 1) If you equip Lucky Find and Lucky Find II (+5% and +10% item drop rate) they become rather common drops from any enemy that drops them, I'm finding about 3 from drops in each Benevodon dungeon I do, plus the one from the chest (total of 11 seeds in 3 dungeons) 2) They can give you dupe class items if you've already class changed. I keep reading people say that they saved up 6 seeds and got 6 different class items - this probably works but is definitely not the case if you turn in one, then change to that class, then turn in more - I got two starlancer items this way. My first turn-in gave me starlancer and I changed to the class right away. My second turn-in was 5 seeds and gave me 4 new ones + a starlancer dupe. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 07:14 on May 1, 2020 |
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May 1, 2020 07:04
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I'm so glad they came up with a proper mechanic for getting through the Jungle of Illusions. I still don't know what you were supposed to do in the OG. I just wish they had also come up with something for the statue blocking Mintas.
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May 1, 2020 07:24
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Wow the Anise time trial abilities and Black Bunny ability simply break this game over it's spine don't they? Also I just remembered that Anise was also the final boss in Dawn of Mana, although I recall her being called Medusa in that game?
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May 1, 2020 09:42
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lezard_valeth posted:Wow the Anise time trial abilities and Black Bunny ability simply break this game over it's spine don't they? It's the same character. She's also in Heroes of Mana, apparently, and in first got mentioned in the lore of Legends of Mana. The names are used interchangeably.
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deep dish peat moss posted:So two things about ??? seeds I found tonight. gandlethorpe posted:I'm so glad they came up with a proper mechanic for getting through the Jungle of Illusions. I still don't know what you were supposed to do in the OG. The weird thing with Mintas and the Duskmoon Forest is that it's always dark there now. I remember in the original game that it went to a normal day/night cycle after plot events happened in it, but now it's just always dark. It would make a good grinding spot for Kevin parties if grinding XP were necessary 
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