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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Virgil gave up on electoralism and joined the swamp maoists

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duomo
Oct 9, 2007




Soiled Meat
doing a long form performance art piece of Hillary Clinton backstage at the javits center on election night 2016

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Uncle Wemus posted:

hello fellow anarcho-syndicalists, did you know chapo trap house takes amazon money, Universal Media Group money, and other assorted horrible capitalist entities money alongside a healthy 2 mil a year?

join me in a journey into MONEY, LOADS OF MONEY



chapo trap house makes absurd levels of patreon money, selling best seller books on Amazon, a known hellhole for worker abuse, profiting off of slave labor sweatshops with Universal Music Group, and generally just hoarding cash without giving any to charity or good causes like the Industrial Workers of the World, or food banks, or really anything that's actually good praxis lmao, while claiming to be a leftist voice that wants to further leftism in America.

also, they hosted a person on their podcast that neo-nazi Richard Spencer seems to really like, twice

therefore, they are not in fact the "dirtbag left" as they claim to be, but are in fact capitalist pigs who are grifting leftists for their money

i found everything but the John Dolan stuff with like, 30 minutes tops of googling and clicking the first links I'm given by google

so my roommate has been listening to chapo a lot, right

so I'm thinking hey, maybe these guys are good right, my room mate seems to like them

so i go look it up, right

first result I get on google is their Soundcloud, so lets hit it fellow anarcho-syndicalists


drat bro, these guys seem pretty lit
hella viewers, on their top poo poo


lotta viewers on their new stuff too

they seem pretty chill, guess ill listen to their stuff in a bit

whats this star thing tho

oh, it's monetization

repost network, huh? i wonder what their split is, so i look it up

from a random cnet article
https://www.cnet.com/news/soundcloud-widens-monetization-for-paying-artists-make-money-now/

so a 55% split, according to Soundcloud "Soundcloud Premier" = Soundcloud pro so they get 55% split of any and all ad revenue if they monetize their stuff

i cant find a way to check if they monetize their stuff cuz social media companies like Soundcloud don't want people thinking about the money when they view the website as a consumer, so whatevs


whats this Grey Wolf thing, let's check it out

ah cool, its a patreon, i like patreons, they're good for small content creators like this podcast who need funds to keep going but aren't like, big commercial operations
wonder how much they make, maybe ill donate if I like their content, my roommate seems to like them

:bernpop:
thats a lot of loving money monthly for a podcast, thats like 2 million dollars yearly
:bernpop:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200430101951/https://www.patreon.com/chapotraphouse (archive link in case they wisen up and hide their payout)
https://www.patreon.com/chapotraphouse

well, it's 6 people, right, so that's gotta be a pretty low split

ah, wait, $2,000,000 divided by 6 is $333,333.33

each member of chapo trap house gets $333 thousand a year if they have an even split on their podcast(they probably dont) in pure revenue from this patreon

thats pretty crazy bro, i wonder what the yearly take home is for a minimum wage worker in a lovely state that still uses the federal minimum?



drat bro, a chapo team member makes a 2110.4% increase in wage from a minimum wage worker in the rust belt

what about someone living in a state with an actually reasonable minimum wage?



drat bro, a chapo team member makes a 968.38% increase in wage from a minimum wage worker in a reasonable wage state like washington

now, you could say "bro this goes to the behind the scenes people"
what behind the scenes people? if they exist, they aren't credited anywhere on the website, the patreon, or the soundcloud!
the only people I ever see credited for Chapo Trap House stuff are the main six, Will Menaker, Matt Christman, Felix Biederman, Amber A'Lee Frost, Virgil Texas, and Chris Wade.
No behind the scene staff are credited, which means that either
1. they don't exist, and it is just a 6 person show.
2. people aren't getting credited for their work in an easy to find place, or at all!
Since it'd be unlikely that a Dirtbag Left podcast would dick over their workers, they must be the only ones working on the show.

I'm sure these guys like, donate to charity right? they're the dirtbag left, and real dirtbag leftists give back to the world when they have excess cash because we are all suffering under capitalism, and if we can help others not suffer under capitalism temporarily while we work to dismantle it, it is our moral obligation and duty to do so


they uh, seem to not have anything about charity work, or really anything about spending any money on their Wikipedia page

have they just been sitting on all this cash?

like, according to this graph thing
https://graphtreon.com/creator/chapotraphouse
https://web.archive.org/web/20200430123010/https://graphtreon.com/creator/chapotraphouse

they've been making 1.2 million dollars a year minimum on just patreon alone since 2018

poo poo bros, thats a lot of money, I'm sure there's a way to calculate how much money they've earned in total but gently caress if I know how do to that, i just googled "patreon stats" and found this website

anyways, so far we've got, for people keeping score at home
  • 2 million dollars a year comin' in on a patreon, been getting at least 1.2 million a year from the patreon since 2018
  • absolutely no idea where this money goes officially
  • no on record charity work done by chapo trap house at all
  • if we assume an even split, all 6 chapo trap house creators make $333,333.33 a year
  • 2110.4% more than a $7.25 an hour minimum wage worker
  • 968.38% more than a $15.00 an hour minimum wage worker

i dunno about you, but these chapo trap house folks seem kinda sketchy

so I'm thinking "hey, maybe these nerds have a website where they break down what they do with the money right?"


https://web.archive.org/web/20200430124704/http://www.chapotraphouse.com/
so I check out this website and I'm greeted with the following:



the very first things I see on this dirtbag left podcast's website are:
  • an advertisement to purchase tickets for a tour during the corona virus pandemic
  • an advertisement for a book
  • an amazing HTML page with no clutter, proper formatting, and no dumb arbitrary javascript being loaded

seriously, i gotta give credit where credit's due, this is A Good Website from a technical standpoint

the website also sells the image that this is just something some random person cooked up in their spare time, a real "average joe" website, no fancy frills, just gets the job done


take note, the rest of the internet, please, i beg you

at this point however, i make a critical mistake and scroll down

:bernpop:
what kind of loving dirtbag leftists sell on loving AMAZON WILLINGLY, AND BRAG ABOUT IT ON THEIR WEBSITE
:bernpop:

its AMAZON

loving AMAZON

you know, DOESN'T LET THEIR WORKERS USE THE BATHROOM AMAZON
you know, SUPRESSES UNIONS ALL DAY EVERY DAY AMAZON
you know, RUNS COMPLETELY UNSAFE WORKING CONDITIONS AMAZON
you know, FIRES PEOPLE VIA AN AUTOMATED TEXTING SYSTEM BASED ON THE ALMIGHTY NUMBER CRUNCHING MACHINES AMAZON

gamers, dnd readers, c-spammers, anarcho-syndicalists, and other assorted goons, im starting to suspect that maybe these chapo trap house folks aren't entirely practicing what they preach


according to amazon it's 18 bucks for a hard copy, and some googling revealed it was the 6th Bestseller in Nonfiction according to the New York Times listings for it.

I don't know how to find those numbers, so I won't make a book sales estimate, but I can imagine it's a lot.

:bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop:
AND THEY SELL ON AMAZON. AS DIRTBAG LEFTISTS. ON AMAZON. A M A Z O N.
:bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop: :bernpop:


also, there's not even a link to the podcast on this page

like, you know, that thing that they're famous for

it ain't on their web page

two advertisements and a merch store are instead

i check the rest of the site and see a merch store


this is pretty fancy and slick except that its bloated javascript garbage

clearly whoever made the first page didn't make this page, even though its on the same domain

seems like the thin veneer of "we're totally just some random people who made a podcast" disappears the second you hit the money-making part of the website, where we're suddenly back to good old fashioned "leaning tower of javascript" web design that you expect from any corporate website in 2020


I scroll to the bottom and click the privacy policy because I like knowing what happens with my data on websites constructed with more javascript than it needs

OH

:bernpop:
drat bros, this is a pretty big company directly managing Chapo Trap House's merchandise sales, especially since Universal Media Group doesn't run any form of easy to sign up with merch store setup that I can find that a small podcast would be able to take advantage of.
:bernpop:

i spent some time digging and I legit cannot find any information on where UMG gets their merch from production wise

i can only assume they get it the same place every other capitalist pig dog corporation gets it from, slave labor in sweat shops

every time you buy a chapo t-shirt or sweater for 25 bucks a pop, you're supporting a megacorporation who probably had that sweat shirt made with slave labor in a sweatshop

lets update the scoreboard
  • 2 million dollars a year comin' in on a patreon, been getting at least 1.2 million a year from the patreon since 2018
  • an unknown amount of money from amazon sales and other book places
  • an unknown amount of money from merch sales from Universal Media Group who runs their merch site for some reason
  • absolutely no idea where this money goes officially
  • no on record charity work done by chapo trap house at all
  • if we assume an even split, all 6 chapo trap house creators make $333,333.33 a year
  • 2110.4% more than a $7.25 an hour minimum wage worker
  • 968.38% more than a $15.00 an hour minimum wage worker

I think the tour got cancelled otherwise I'd count all that in.

So basically, Chapo Trap House is, as we in the business say, capitalist pig dogs.

Now for the bonus round:
Chapo Trap House had John Dolan on their show not once, but TWICE, both as his alias The War Nerd and his real name. Episodes 203 and 331, despite the fact that John Dolan seems to be a favorite of neo-nazi Richard Spencer.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200430120313/https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-203-cats-18280278
https://web.archive.org/web/20200430121422/https://www.patreon.com/posts/331-wide-world-7-28286336
https://www.patreon.com/posts/331-wide-world-7-28286336
https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-203-cats-18280278

crazy, bros, absolutely crazy that they would have a guy that neo-nazi Richard Spencer seems to love on not just once, but twice, while claiming to be a dirtbag left podcast
absolutely crazy

now, id like to credit https://medium.com/@areidross/from-exile-to-dirtbag-edgelord-geopolitics-and-the-rise-of-national-bolshevism-in-the-u-s-84822021b0e8 for all this info


John Dolan receives praise from Daryush Valizadeh, also known as Roosh V, a disgusting rapist fucker who sells books to other disgusting rapist fuckers to tell them how to rape women easier. He's not a good person.
Not really a thrilling endorsement for someone on Chapo Trap House.


Praise from RICHARD SPENCER. An actual, legitimate neo-nazi.
Are you not sure who Richard Spencer is?
Here's a refresher.


At least this nazi got punched in the face.

The final scorecard:
  • 2 million dollars a year comin' in on a patreon, been getting at least 1.2 million a year from the patreon since 2018
  • an unknown amount of money from amazon sales and other book places
  • an unknown amount of money from merch sales from universal media group who runs their site for some reason
  • absolutely no idea where this money goes officially
  • no on record charity work done by chapo trap house at all
  • if we assume an even split, all 6 chapo trap house creators make $333,333.33 a year
  • 2110.4% more than a $7.25 an hour minimum wage worker
  • 968.38% more than a $15.00 an hour minimum wage worker
  • Had a guy on multiple times that neo-nazi Richard Spencer seems to really like.

Fellow goons, I think it's safe to say that Chapo Trap House is not actually leftists, and are infact capitalist pig grifters who have neo-nazis on their platforms multiple times.
They are not "the working class", or just your average joes. They're rich capitalists who get business deals, sell merch, and host Richard Spencer's favorite people, while turning in over 2 million a year in documented profit.

If you've been giving them money, you're being grifted.

Stop giving your money to Chapo Trap House. Give your money to the Industrial Workers Of The World instead.

https://iww.org/

i always liked Loadsamoney's Geordie cousin Buggerallmoney better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP4xuPbZ4Ic

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Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

the sheer condescension in that post from someone whos obviously never listened to the podcast lol

Lordshmee
Nov 23, 2007

I hate you, Milkman Dan

Atrocious Joe posted:

Virgil gave up on electoralism and joined the swamp maoists

This is an attractive position, except it probably means moving to Florida, and gently caress that poo poo.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
once the governor kills all the people over sixty with corona, we can take over florida and turn it into a socialist utopia

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

Farm Frenzy posted:

the sheer condescension in that post from someone whos obviously never listened to the podcast lol

well they were gonna listen but then an orange star caught their eye

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

is the IWW podcast funny?

fermun
Nov 4, 2009

Egg Moron posted:

is the IWW podcast funny?

nah, it's still just the same 100 year old joke it's always been

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Sir Tonk posted:

for real tho what happned to virgil

He got fired

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Egg Moron posted:

is the IWW podcast funny?

They weren't even clever enough to call it the Wobcast

Pizza Segregationist
Jul 18, 2006

Sir Tonk posted:

for real tho what happned to virgil

Will addressed it briefly on an episode recently and said he’s fine and on hiatus. Sounds like he’s depressed and not feeling up to doing the show

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lol

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
He’s happy an living on a majestic farm where he can run and play

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
chapo swamp shack

edit: once again stop quoting the giant failpost

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.
"You need to apologies because your acquaintance has bad fans" is not a political position, it is something a crazy person would say.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

He’s happy an living on a majestic farm where he can run and play

lol

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
felix trying to hold back tears as he lures virgil behind the shed with a properly aged half-full bottle of water

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Dmitri-9 posted:

"You need to apologies because your acquaintance has bad fans" is not a political position, it is something a crazy person would say.

This was literal the media coverage of bernie on rogan for like a month straight

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Gripweed posted:

I've always wanted to play a Warhammer, and even painted some dudes, but never found the time or energy to complete an entire army or find people to play with. Thuis quarantine has driven me so loopy and reminded me of my mortality to the point that I just ordered the Blood Bowl starter. I will paint both teams and take the whole thing down to my closest game store and come hell or highwater I will complete at least one game of fantasy football.

There are mods and add ons for Tabletop Simulator that let you play pretty much all of the warhammer games

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Sir Tonk posted:

for real tho what happned to virgil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsuTh1aK7Tc&t=42s

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

MizPiz posted:

There are mods and add ons for Tabletop Simulator that let you play pretty much all of the warhammer games

What on earth is the point if I'm not using the tiny men I painted myself?

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

felix trying to hold back tears as he lures virgil behind the shed with a properly aged half-full bottle of water

Virgil's reenacting the diner scene from Mulholland Drive except the bottle scares him to death.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Lordshmee posted:

This is an attractive position, except it probably means moving to Florida, and gently caress that poo poo.

I wish there were swamp maoists here

El Burbo
Oct 10, 2012


my man busting out the graph paper

he’s doing great

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Gripweed posted:

What on earth is the point if I'm not using the tiny men I painted myself?

Especially since Warhammer sucks mechanically

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

Gripweed posted:

What on earth is the point if I'm not using the tiny men I painted myself tell myself I’m going to paint but just always buy more resulting in an insurmountable backlog?

El Burbo
Oct 10, 2012

Matt reached the revelation that twitter bad

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

El Burbo posted:

Matt reached the revelation that twitter bad

the lead up is incredible

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Homeless Friend posted:

the lead up is incredible

i wanna see his NJR tweet

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Sir Tonk posted:

for real tho what happned to virgil

OD'd on bernie and is going through withdrawal now

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Im all about Orcs.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

felix trying to hold back tears as he lures virgil behind the shed with a properly aged half-full bottle of water

“Tell me again about the statistical splits, Virgil”

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Siljmonster posted:

Im all about Orcs.

orcs are just working class bostonians

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

elves smellves

gorgmatic
Apr 25, 2006

May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't
ALLAH IS ALL MERCIFUL

Goast posted:

is this activism

Nah, it's Virgil doing a Patty Hearst.

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

i like matt's anarchists are liberals take

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Siljmonster posted:

Im all about Orcs.

:yossame:

they're canonically guys only

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Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

ya orcs are the dudes rock army

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