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ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

I said come in! posted:

People of color are not allowed to own guns in the United States. Granted this is not spelled out in law, but it's in how the police treats one group over the other 100% of the time. And the fact that gun control of any kind even exists in the U.S. due to black communities arming themselves during the civil rights movement.

Remember when a black man told a police officer he was legally carrying a firearm and he was executed in front of his wife and child and the response from the NRA and white gun owners was next to nothing?

They showed their true ideology that day.

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Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Kirk Vikernes fucked around with this message at 18:46 on May 1, 2020

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012


sir i think you mistake cspam for being full of liberals.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Inept posted:

lmao they even allowed them to have their guns in the gallery that overlooks the state senate floor

https://twitter.com/SenPolehanki/status/1255899318210314241

https://twitter.com/T_S_P_O_O_K_Y/status/1256091805210357763

No, no acts of aggression by these heavily armed men yelling at legislators from a balcony.

Burns
May 10, 2008

What is the line between protest and treason? How far along until the president promotes sedition?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Burns posted:

What is the line between protest and treason? How far along until the president promotes sedition?

Trump already has multiple times during this pandemic alone. A few years ago he supported and defended KKK rallies even.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

I said come in! posted:

Trump already has multiple times during this pandemic alone. A few years ago he supported and defended KKK rallies even.

Don't forget shedding genuine tears over Nazis being attacked at those rallies.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

biracial bear for uncut posted:

Don't forget shedding genuine tears over Nazis being attacked at those rallies.

GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES!!!!!!!!!!!

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Partially opening back up with minimal testing while cases are still plateaud or increasing while providing little government assistance is the dumbest possible choice so of course that's what we're doing in the US lmao

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

brugroffil posted:

Partially opening back up with minimal testing while cases are still plateaud or increasing while providing little government assistance is the dumbest possible choice so of course that's what we're doing in the US lmao

Something that also isnt being discussed really, is that something like 3.5 million people in the U.S. have lost their health coverage during this. That is 3.5 million people that if they were to get sick with COVID-19 and end up in intensive care, or worst need to be on a ventilator, they would be in debt for the rest of their life. If you get sick in this country without health insurance, its better that you end up dying to be honest. Having a collection agency go after you for medical debt is pretty brutal as they take like 90% of your wages when you do finally get a job.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
I apparently don't have teh 'Roni so I can go have my bile piping changed Monday!

:woop:

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


https://twitter.com/petridishes/status/1256279615125020674

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

Imagine being so angry that people who would normally at best only be getting 300 bucks a week in your state now get another 600.

But why would they go back to work?

Yeah shitfaces, why would they

https://www.businessinsider.com/lindsey-graham-congress-coronavirus-unemployment-benefit-over-our-dead-bodies-2020-4

quote:

But Graham and Scott said these additional unemployment benefits would incentivize people to stay at home rather than return to work, to the detriment of small business owners.

"The goal is to help people who are unemployed, to make sure that if they get unemployed, they'll have their income intact, but it was never our goal to pay people more to be out of work than at work," Graham added during a Q&A session, adding that "if a person is making $23 an hour on unemployment, it's going to be hard to get you go back to work for $17 hour job."

zer0spunk fucked around with this message at 19:25 on May 1, 2020

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

I said come in! posted:

Something that also isnt being discussed really, is that something like 3.5 million people in the U.S. have lost their health coverage during this. That is 3.5 million people that if they were to get sick with COVID-19 and end up in intensive care, or worst need to be on a ventilator, they would be in debt for the rest of their life. If you get sick in this country without health insurance, its better that you end up dying to be honest. Having a collection agency go after you for medical debt is pretty brutal as they take like 90% of your wages when you do finally get a job.

Or that countless retail, fast food, and other low wage workers are in red states where Medicaid access has been rationed and limited and aren't offered health insurance by their employers. That's if they still have jobs at all if they were working in the hotel, movie theater, restaurant, etc industry, which have been hit incredibly hard and hurt poor people the most. America owns because we have an entire underclass of low-income folks who are underinsured or have no health insurance because a considerable segment of lawmakers and society as a whole doesn't give a gently caress.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

Or that countless retail, fast food, and other low wage workers are in red states where Medicaid access has been rationed and limited and aren't offered health insurance by their employers. That's if they still have jobs at all if they were working in the hotel, movie theater, restaurant, etc industry, which have been hit incredibly hard and hurt poor people the most. America owns because we have an entire underclass of low-income folks who are underinsured or have no health insurance because a considerable segment of lawmakers and society as a whole doesn't give a gently caress.

In Washington State, Whole Food workers lost their health insurance when Amazon bought them. :toot: I hate this country so much.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Burns posted:

What is the line between protest and treason? How far along until the president promotes sedition?

the president promoting sedition was last week now we're at the part where the sedition is happening

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib

I said come in! posted:

If you get sick in this country without health insurance, its better that you end up dying to be honest.
uh no

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004


Going into medical debt in the U.S. is brutal. Debt collectors will hound you for the rest of your life, and your wages will be garnished almost in their entirety. You'll never be able to afford a place to live, or be able to get a job. People in the U.S. without health insurance literally make decisions all the time about their health if its better to just ignore it and hope for the best.

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib

I said come in! posted:

Going into medical debt in the U.S. is brutal. Debt collectors will hound you for the rest of your life, and your wages will be garnished almost in their entirety. You'll never be able to afford a place to live, or be able to get a job.
Yes, it's brutal (but there are some protections like bankruptcy, which is its own can of worms). No, you are not better off just killing yourself.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

wyoak posted:

Yes, it's brutal (but there are some protections like bankruptcy, which is its own can of worms). No, you are not better off just killing yourself.

He's not saying people should literally kill themselves, but having a $40,000 medical bill with no health insurance pretty much says you may as well be dead unless you're wealthy because you will never be able to enjoy your life again.

Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 19:51 on May 1, 2020

Funk In Shoe
Apr 20, 2008

Waiting in line, Mr. Haydon told me it is a wheel not meant for lovers but for infants, lifting people and letting them swing, putting the world on display from up high

LionArcher posted:

Easier access to longer videos and more videos. It was free last month and lasted a month. No credit card needed. Also, having them offline is nice in the sense that if something weird goes down (porn is illegal or porn hub gets busted for child porn or some other BS) I have them on a back up hard drive. Same with erotic comics. I’m starting to download as much stuff (not just adult content, think media I own and things like ifixit guides) as I can, on multiple hard drives. If the world gets truly hosed for long enough, not having to reply on the internet for stuff will be handy. It’s why I’m glad I still buy games physically mostly.

Mods rename me Sad Porn Prepper

Fashionably Great
Jul 10, 2008
Graham added during a Q&A session, adding that "if a person is making $23 an hour on unemployment, it's going to be hard to get you go back to work for $17 hour job."


Lol buddy, I'm an essential employee who works a white collar job and I don't make $17 an hour




:smith:

People decided to protest the lockdown outside my office (city hall) today which doesn't really make sense because the city doesn't make that call, the county does. My state had been doing a pretty ok job with precautions considering our limitations of basically no PPE and testing supplies, but we keep having record numbers of positive cases. So no, I would prefer if you all stayed away from city hall, you don't need anything in here that you can't request via email, fax, phone or mail. I'm not getting COVID because you wanted to turn in your paperwork in person.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

So the restrictions in france are to lighten up on the 11th of may, people will be allowed back to work and some stores will be allowed to reopen. A petition is urrently going around facebook with a bunch of people posting on it to open up the beaches. "Use the beaches but everyone will keep safe distance" to go surfing and for walks and whatever.

Sounds like a great loving idea, surely no one will break the rules accidentally or anything. Our region doesn't have a lot of cases at least in case these people get their way.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Fashionably Great posted:

Lol buddy, I'm an essential employee who works a white collar job and I don't make $17 an hour




:smith:
Same here, fellow government employee buddy

https://twitter.com/dumbandawful/status/1255979461612314626

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


zer0spunk posted:

Imagine being so angry that people who would normally at best only be getting 300 bucks a week in your state now get another 600.

But why would they go back to work?

Yeah shitfaces, why would they

https://www.businessinsider.com/lindsey-graham-congress-coronavirus-unemployment-benefit-over-our-dead-bodies-2020-4

The whole point is to keep people home!!!

Clocks
Oct 2, 2007



My dad had a heart attack nearly a decade ago and the ambulance cost like $3k to transport him for five minutes, and one of the itemized bills was $90 for the aspirin they gave him. (The three(?) day hospital stay was something like $130k.) Luckily we had good insurance so we just punted the insurance and hospital against each other and they mostly left us alone, although not before trying to bill us for like $28k first.

Nowadays it's not so simple, and in any case even if I was in a bad state, if I was conscious I'd at least refuse the loving ambulance ride because gently caress paying three grand.

God help the people who are sick and have poor/no insurance, if the virus doesn't ruin them the debt will.

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

He's not saying people should literally kill themselves, but having a $40,000 medical bill with no health insurance pretty much says you may as well be dead unless you're wealthy because you will never be able to enjoy your life again.
i say this in all earnestness, more people should file bankruptcy (and I realize there are ironic financial barriers to doing that if you're already poor)

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015


CSpam has an entire thread about how guns are good.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Clocks posted:

My dad had a heart attack nearly a decade ago and the ambulance cost like $3k to transport him for five minutes, and one of the itemized bills was $90 for the aspirin they gave him. (The three(?) day hospital stay was something like $130k.) Luckily we had good insurance so we just punted the insurance and hospital against each other and they mostly left us alone, although not before trying to bill us for like $28k first.

Nowadays it's not so simple, and in any case even if I was in a bad state, if I was conscious I'd at least refuse the loving ambulance ride because gently caress paying three grand.

God help the people who are sick and have poor/no insurance, if the virus doesn't ruin them the debt will.
The billing is completely insane. My dad got sick and eventually died from leukemia complications in 2012, and I'm glad he had very good insurance because the bill for 8 months of treatment before he died was like $1.2 million. It's an insane racket that needs to be thrown in the wastebin of history like every other sane country has.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Hell yeah 420 blaze it

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Clocks posted:

God help the people who are sick and have poor/no insurance, if the virus doesn't ruin them the debt will.

The last time I went to see a doctor at my local medical clinic here in Australia it not only didn't cost me anything, I didn't even have to fill in any paperwork because I'd been there before a few years ago so they already had me in file. I just walked in, identified myself at the front desk (name & address & date of birth), waited about half an hour until the doctor was free, then walked out after the consult. I didn't even have to make an appointment.


Edit: oh I forgot, during the consult the doc went "Heyyyy fatty, when's the last time you got a blood test? How about we get that done so we can see how you're going for diabetes and stuff?" so she booked me in for that (it was a separate consult at a blood test office attached to the clinic) and then a third consult after the results came back to yell at me for ruining my life with my lovely diet and lack of exercise give me the surprising news that I'm actually doing okay. None of it cost a cent.

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 20:32 on May 1, 2020

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

The last time I went to see a doctor at my local medical clinic here in Australia it not only didn't cost me anything, I didn't even have to fill in any paperwork because I'd been there before a few years ago so they already had me in file. I just walked in, identified myself at the front desk (name & address & date of birth), waited about half an hour until the doctor was free, then walked out after the consult. I didn't even have to make an appointment.

Yeah, but then you had to go back to your 18 hour workday in the salt mines under the cruel whips and hobnailed boot of teh communist opressar?

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread
Declare bankruptcy!
gently caress shame or we, the system is broken.
This talk of killing yourself is overkill.

Separately, my boomer mother is losing it. She cannot cope at all. I've known for weeks now that she is taking out her fear and frustration about the pandemic on me; as a fanatical Christian Scientist she has spent her entire life [it was even her career!] denying the germ theory of disease and the reality of any illness.

It's been incredibly painful living with someone who hates me, I'm pretty emotionally damaged already. I am determined to preserve though, I am lucky enough to be in CA on UI so I drat well better suck it up. Today she finally said she can't cope in the midst of cursing me when she lost her temper over something I don't recall my cat doing when he was alive around 4 years ago. :wtc:

I know this is kinda E/N, my real point is that boomers and brainwashed Fox news chuds REALLY can't adjust I think- we are seeing this everywhere. Already having realized America was super hosed up gives us goons a huge advantage in handling this novel situation imo.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Schadenboner posted:

Yeah, but then you had to go back to your 18 hour workday in the salt mines under the cruel whips and hobnailed boot of teh communist opressar?

Lord Humungus is a tough but fair master, he lets us take a break after 12 hours.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

FlamingLiberal posted:

The billing is completely insane. My dad got sick and eventually died from leukemia complications in 2012, and I'm glad he had very good insurance because the bill for 8 months of treatment before he died was like $1.2 million. It's an insane racket that needs to be thrown in the wastebin of history like every other sane country has.

Part of the reason why our health care system is so abysmal is because you have wealthy rear end in a top hat lawmakers like Lindsey Graham who have no interest in engaging with factual information or reality itself, which leads to him seriously contending that unemployed workers struggling during the worst epidemic in the past century were making $17/hour, instead of, uh, maybe $11/hour, after they lost their job working the front desk at their closed hotel... and that's a high wage for many workers in our terrible economy. The people who dictate health care policy in our hosed up horrible nation are so out-of-touch with actual society time and time again. That's one of many reasons why we've never thrown it in the trash.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Spinz posted:

Declare bankruptcy!
gently caress shame or we, the system is broken.
This talk of killing yourself is overkill.

Separately, my boomer mother is losing it. She cannot cope at all. I've known for weeks now that she is taking out her fear and frustration about the pandemic on me; as a fanatical Christian Scientist she has spent her entire life [it was even her career!] denying the germ theory of disease and the reality of any illness.

It's been incredibly painful living with someone who hates me, I'm pretty emotionally damaged already. I am determined to preserve though, I am lucky enough to be in CA on UI so I drat well better suck it up. Today she finally said she can't cope in the midst of cursing me when she lost her temper over something I don't recall my cat doing when he was alive around 4 years ago. :wtc:

I know this is kinda E/N, my real point is that boomers and brainwashed Fox news chuds REALLY can't adjust I think- we are seeing this everywhere. Already having realized America was super hosed up gives us goons a huge advantage in handling this novel situation imo.

Can confirm bankruptcy sucks.

Source: We incurred beaucoup bills what with BORAT VOICE MY TINY HU-MON kramering himself the gently caress in at 30 weeks back in :regd13:, so we ended up doin' the 'ol :pt:. But we're white and computer touchers so we're on Easy Mode.

E: Seriously, that's the 2013 smilie?

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Love the guy with the Travis Bickle mohawk, that's goddamn :discourse:

It's uncanny




https://popula.com/2019/02/24/about-face/

SpaceGoatFarts fucked around with this message at 20:52 on May 1, 2020

Derpies
Mar 11, 2014

by sebmojo

Fashionably Great posted:

Graham added during a Q&A session, adding that "if a person is making $23 an hour on unemployment, it's going to be hard to get you go back to work for $17 hour job."


Lol buddy, I'm an essential employee who works a white collar job and I don't make $17 an hour




:smith:

People decided to protest the lockdown outside my office (city hall) today which doesn't really make sense because the city doesn't make that call, the county does. My state had been doing a pretty ok job with precautions considering our limitations of basically no PPE and testing supplies, but we keep having record numbers of positive cases. So no, I would prefer if you all stayed away from city hall, you don't need anything in here that you can't request via email, fax, phone or mail. I'm not getting COVID because you wanted to turn in your paperwork in person.

Hey fellow City Hall goon somehow we didn't get any protestors in our area, probably because we are more blue collar "essential" workers. The chuds are mainly busy yelling at the Capitol.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Spinz posted:

Declare bankruptcy!
gently caress shame or we, the system is broken.
This talk of killing yourself is overkill.

Separately, my boomer mother is losing it. She cannot cope at all. I've known for weeks now that she is taking out her fear and frustration about the pandemic on me; as a fanatical Christian Scientist she has spent her entire life [it was even her career!] denying the germ theory of disease and the reality of any illness.

It's been incredibly painful living with someone who hates me, I'm pretty emotionally damaged already. I am determined to preserve though, I am lucky enough to be in CA on UI so I drat well better suck it up. Today she finally said she can't cope in the midst of cursing me when she lost her temper over something I don't recall my cat doing when he was alive around 4 years ago. :wtc:

I know this is kinda E/N, my real point is that boomers and brainwashed Fox news chuds REALLY can't adjust I think- we are seeing this everywhere. Already having realized America was super hosed up gives us goons a huge advantage in handling this novel situation imo.

Sorry spin, thinking about you. Which also makes me think about high res dick photos for some reason but I don't mind.

I declared bankruptcy when I was 19 or 20 due to appendectomy.

The best part was my lovely retail assistant manager was like "if you cut this shift I'll have to write you up" while I was telling him I felt like I was loving dying. It was worth it though because when I went back to work 3 days later I got to say "yeah they rushed me into the OR as quick as possible for surgery you dumb gently caress."

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Kerosene19
May 7, 2007


FlamingLiberal posted:

The billing is completely insane.

This reminded me to check my insurance carriers site for the status on a claim from a heart attack I had back in November. Insurance and the hospital have been playing volleyball with a 140k claim since. Seems that as of Wednesday insurance finally accepted a partially reduced claim and my portion is *only* another $125. I should be excited that is all it is but I already paid max out of pocket (3k) for last years claims. Makes me consider whether I should just shut the gently caress up and pay it and let it be done with or fight them over it. hmmm

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