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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Im more concerned with it being a UV sterilizing robot shown in a room with people for the promotional shot, especially since it being opperated at a safe distance is also mentioned in the marketing blurb. The photo is Dokat Aura, Dokat cura is this thing: 
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Just put some balls at the bottom of that one, to even things out
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https://twitter.com/thestalwart/status/1256242062883729409?s=21
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May 1, 2020 16:31
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Gonna guess there's twitter bots watching that caused this. Much like when the AP twitter account was hacked and tweeted that Obama was assassinated, the stock market tumbled instantly from HFT bots.
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May 1, 2020 18:43
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Isn't musk's tweet a violation of his sec settlement?
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May 1, 2020 21:58
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Papercut posted:Isn't musk's tweet a violation of his sec settlement? 
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After the defamation trial I don't think Musk is ever going to face consequences for his blatant wrongdoing.
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May 1, 2020 22:06
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Haven't we learned by now that the ownership class operates under a different rule of law from the rest of us?
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I wasn't gonna insider trade / but then I got high Not gonna tweet a strange tirade / but then I got high Now SEC is up my rear end / and I know why Because I got high, because I got high, because I got high...
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Papercut posted:Isn't musk's tweet a violation of his sec settlement? “Your honor, only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.”
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PT6A posted:I wasn't gonna insider trade / but then I got high  loving lol
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Papercut posted:Isn't musk's tweet a violation of his sec settlement? not a false statement of material fact, it's an opinion i mean really the problem is he was honest about his stock
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Have a cow, man.
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I’m the wheelbarrow full of grass clippings.
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i want to see the alt timeline news headline where that thing has a OSHA and kills someone.
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May 2, 2020 20:58
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Isn't this small potatoes? If you can capture 1% of the market, $180 million (a year?) doesn't sound like the kind of money tech investors are interested in. On top of that, aren't you cannibalizing future revenue streams by selling these mowers? If 75% of that $18 billion is labor costs, won't you be shrinking the market you are entering just by entering it?
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MickeyFinn posted:Isn't this small potatoes? If you can capture 1% of the market, $180 million (a year?) doesn't sound like the kind of money tech investors are interested in. On top of that, aren't you cannibalizing future revenue streams by selling these mowers? If 75% of that $18 billion is labor costs, won't you be shrinking the market you are entering just by entering it? It's... a solar powered mower. Also, blockchain maybe? ... Give us money!
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MickeyFinn posted:Isn't this small potatoes? If you can capture 1% of the market, $180 million (a year?) doesn't sound like the kind of money tech investors are interested in. On top of that, aren't you cannibalizing future revenue streams by selling these mowers? If 75% of that $18 billion is labor costs, won't you be shrinking the market you are entering just by entering it? Hence why they’re trolling for investors on Facebook, presumably. edit: that said a 180m a year company is nothing to sneeze at evilweasel fucked around with this message at 22:19 on May 2, 2020 |
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MickeyFinn posted:Isn't this small potatoes? If you can capture 1% of the market, $180 million (a year?) doesn't sound like the kind of money tech investors are interested in. On top of that, aren't you cannibalizing future revenue streams by selling these mowers? If 75% of that $18 billion is labor costs, won't you be shrinking the market you are entering just by entering it? you dont "sell" the mowers. you lease them. you don't really buy landscaping equipment for commercial use, you just have a company come in and do it all on a bi-weekly, or monthly basis. You wouldnt replace the crews, youd increase your hourly charge and have your crewmen do all the other work faster. The solar power ontop is green porn so the valley dickheads can jerk off while handing big VC checks off. Take that stupid thing off and your left with a grass roomba. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 22:20 on May 2, 2020 |
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May 2, 2020 22:18
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I wonder how that thing will handle someone throwing an empty beer can on the lawn, or a yard sign, or a storm knocking down some sticks and branches, or one of dozens of other irregularities? Landscaping is a bunch of different tasks that don't require much skill but that each have to be automated individually.
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yard roomba is already a thing that has existed for like a decade, i don't get why this upscaled version for landscapers is worth anything we can circle back to the automated fryer argument. this thing looks cool i guess and you may immediately think "oh, we can replace a landscaper guy now" but i dunno if any of yall know any landscapers but they don't get paid much. and a skilled dude on one of those industrial size riding lawnmowers is going to be moving fast as gently caress and a lot more precisely than this thing will, especially on anything more complicated than just trimming a large flat rectangular field. i don't even know how this thing is supposed to handle any sort of yard with moderately complex topology, like trees with mulch beds, or curvilinear hedges defining space, without some guy sitting there pecking away at a control unit where it's like gently caress just get the guy on the industrial mower back out there and get the job done in half the time i can't imagine any landscaping companies actually using this thing. it's just not any efficient or cheaper than having a minwage guy do it
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Gonna guess their end-game is 1) Get investment money 2) Pay selves lavish salaries and benefits using money while generating a prototype for as long as possible and as cheaply as possible 3) Ask for more money they know they won't get 4) Quit the company / fire their buddies with massive severances 5) Company goes bankrupt, they move on to the next scam. In the event that (3) accidentally gets them more money, go to (2).
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the robot is going to have to be more performant than this to be worth it. consider that if the guy on the riding mower finishes up before the rest of the job is done, he can pivot to another task. the robot cannot, it only does the one thing this company also sells yard roombas btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8GDN4Le9ew
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luxury handset posted:the robot is going to have to be more performant than this to be worth it. consider that if the guy on the riding mower finishes up before the rest of the job is done, he can pivot to another task. the robot cannot, it only does the one thing Have you actually worked a min wage job. I'm trying to figure out how you form this opinion that there won't be automation in these industries. This thing could demolish golf courses grads at the same speed as a human because it can run any time of the day. This thing gets rid of the teen cabbies side kick as well as it makes landscaping teams more efficient
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Have you actually worked a min wage job. I'm trying to figure out how you form this opinion that there won't be automation in these industries. This thing could demolish golf courses grads at the same speed as a human because it can run any time of the day. This thing gets rid of the teen cabbies side kick as well as it makes landscaping teams more efficient
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Have you actually worked a min wage job. I'm trying to figure out how you form this opinion that there won't be automation in these industries. This thing could demolish golf courses grads at the same speed as a human because it can run any time of the day. This thing gets rid of the teen cabbies side kick as well as it makes landscaping teams more efficient
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Have you actually worked a min wage job. I'm trying to figure out how you form this opinion that there won't be automation in these industries. This thing could demolish golf courses grads at the same speed as a human because it can run any time of the day. This thing gets rid of the teen cabbies side kick as well as it makes landscaping teams more efficient i'm confused by your response to my argument. you seem to think i am saying there will not be automation. i am saying that this particular device is a silly gimmick which won't be wanted by landscaping firms. it does not make landscaping teams more efficient, it seems to me that the landscaping team would be less efficient if they have to babysit this large robot which is slower and less capable than a person automated lawn mowers are very slow - this is for good reason, as you do not want a robot with rotating knives to move around quickly and unpredictably. so the ideal use of these things is to mow smaller lawns which you don't care if a robot spends hours doing the job, just so long as you don't have to spend a lesser amount of time doing the job as you would rather not spend any time doing the job. this is the absolute opposite use case for a professional landscaping crew, which is going to try to complete an entire job site as quickly as possible. professional landscaping crews also tend to take care of fancier grounds which have extra stuff like topiary and flower beds and light tree trimming, stuff that the big slow robot would be confused by and wouldn't be able to help with at all. you'd also be in a bad situation if the robot decided to dig up some decorative flowers it's weird that you chose not to respond to any of these points and you're just saying things like "have you worked minwage bro" (yes, for many years, indoors and outdoors) and "but these machines make the crews more efficient" (no, no they do not, not at all). also the solar powered robot is not going to run any time of the day, for a device like this you would want it to have a charging station wired to the grid if small enough or just put a gas engine on it if the thing is larger in my opinion the real customer for this device is not landscapers, but gullible people who look at the idea of robot and say "wow, cool automation! wave of the future! i'll invest in this" and then they lose their investment in a boutique startup with an unworkable, impractical product
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Automatic mowers have been a thing forever and ever, has no one seen one before? They predate computers even since you can just bury a line they follow with magnets. It’s not a hard problem to solve. 
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misguided rage posted:Given the current state of this sort of technology I bet it would work fantastically for a few hours before either ending up at the bottom of a water feature or running over a golfer. i can't imagine running this thing on a golf course. it would get dented to poo poo in a week as people take pot shots at it
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luxury handset posted:i can't imagine running this thing on a golf course. it would get dented to poo poo in a week as people take pot shots at it It’s not exactly magic technology to make something that can take a hit from a golf ball.
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evilweasel posted:Hence why they’re trolling for investors on Facebook, presumably. I’d be pretty pleased with $180 million a year, I just didn’t think VCs got out of bed for less than a B and network effects.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:It’s not exactly magic technology to make something that can take a hit from a golf ball. with startup build quality? it would be a miracle if they made a production model rather than pissing all the money away on prototypes and company outings
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Roombas don't have blades (unless you tape a knife to yours, in which case I don't judge). Ok so technically it's not called a Roomba, but seriously, https://www.irobot.com/terra
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Steve French posted:Ok so technically it's not called a Roomba, but seriously, https://www.irobot.com/terra Huh. Well, I wasn't using that squirrel anyway.
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luxury handset posted:in my opinion the real customer for this device is not landscapers, but gullible people who look at the idea of robot and say "wow, cool automation! wave of the future! i'll invest in this" and then they lose their investment in a boutique startup with an unworkable, impractical product For what it's worth I'm involved in a housing cooperative of about 5k dwellings with our own landscaping crews. We switched to automatic mowers 2 years ago.1) They are very quiet 2) They are constantly working so the lawns look well maintained 3) Grass never gets long enough to form pollen so great for allergies. 4) If the maintenance crew is understaffed lawns still get taken care of. It doesn't work everywhere. Too expensive to have a dedicated machine for small patches and it doesn't work with steep hills. Fallen fruit needs to be cleared as needed. If they get stuck the maintenance crew gets a text and they come by and give it a nudge or the residents do it. Residents generally like them because you don't have large gas powered machines making noise once or twice a week. Lawns look fine and it's cheaper. Arsenic Lupin posted:Huh. Well, I wasn't using that squirrel anyway. They are designed to constantly trim the little bit of new growth in the short interval since they were last there so the blades aren't very powerful. We had one run over a sweater and it remained a serviceable sweater. As of yet no hedgehog or bird holocaust as feared.
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But can you turn them into a delicious curry at the end of their lifespan? Cause if not, I'm going with goats every time.
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eXXon posted:But can you turn them into a delicious curry at the end of their lifespan? Cause if not, I'm going with goats every time. Then they'll just eat your whole yard
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