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Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

Synthetic Dreams posted:

I'm well aware of the happenings within California. I live there too, but I kinda balk at the idea of this state being socialist. It's milquetoast liberal at best. I was in Venice Beach getting a tooth yanked out earlier this week and that area was bustling with idiots ignoring the shelter at home orders. Many pedestrians were not wearing face masks. It was terrifying to consider the likelihood of some of those people being dead in a month or so.
I'm in So Cal and holy poo poo Next Door has turned into FYAD now

A couple of chud business owners are campaigning so hard to reopen- I posted at them like twice and one of them got my account suspended because I had an obvious fake name 😂

NO one wears masks when jogging or walking or biking ever and they were just a few weeks ago. Governor might be a faker but I'm drat glad of him rn.

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Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.
NEJM had a good data dive article on covid hospitalizations and what factors increase or decrease your chance of death once hospitalized. Patients who entered the hospital on ACE Inhibitors (lisinopril, enalapril, various others -prils, used for blood pressure and kidney protection) had a 2.1% death rate versus 6.1% for those not on ACE-Is. The only other drug class to show a noticeable benefit was Statins (cholesterol meds such as Simvastatin), they reduced the death rate down to 4.2%. Don't overread those stats though because they haven't been adjusted for confounding variables, but it's still pretty impressive.

So keep taking those ACE-Inhibitors or Statins if you got them.

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Subvisual Haze posted:

NEJM had a good data dive article on covid hospitalizations and what factors increase or decrease your chance of death once hospitalized. Patients who entered the hospital on ACE Inhibitors (lisinopril, enalapril, various others -prils, used for blood pressure and kidney protection) had a 2.1% death rate versus 6.1% for those not on ACE-Is. The only other drug class to show a noticeable benefit was Statins (cholesterol meds such as Simvastatin), they reduced the death rate down to 4.2%. Don't overread those stats though because they haven't been adjusted for confounding variables, but it's still pretty impressive.

So keep taking those ACE-Inhibitors or Statins if you got them.

I take lisinopril for high blood pressure so remember to PM me your account passwords before you pass into the great beyond

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Synthetic Dreams posted:

I'm well aware of the happenings within California. I live there too, but I kinda balk at the idea of this state being socialist. It's milquetoast liberal at best

yeah that was sarcasm friend

Pitdragon
Jan 20, 2004
Just another lurker
oh good the whitehouse will be blocking Dr. Fauci from testifying on Capitol Hill next week

cool, cool

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

Pitdragon posted:

oh good the whitehouse will be blocking Dr. Fauci from testifying on Capitol Hill next week

cool, cool

Does he even have time for that yet?

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler
Soooo I started having horrible diarrhea Tuesday and it is now better than the previous pissing-out-of-my-rear end variety I was experiencing then but still not even close to normal. Had a 99.9 fever at one point and bad chills. No vomiting just nausea. My dumb rear end tried to go back to work after having wednesday off, felt ok yesterday but then today I almost passed out at work. Like I had to catch myself or I would have hit the floor. Probably didn't help I didn't eat breakfast (thanks nausea) and only drank a couple cups of water, then just had protein shake for lunch. Anyway I came home early from work and I called urgent care and they are seeing me by telephone because of my symptoms. Expecting a call back in the next hour or so. I bet I'm gonna get tested! Oh joy! I keep posting false alarms in this thread. I dunno why I want goons to know about my explosive diarrhea but I don't really wanna talk to friends about it so yeah. I guess I heard that GI signs can also be covid so I'm wondering if that's what's up. Here I thought I just had food poisoning.

I haven't been able to shelter at home because I am ~essential~ and multiple people at my work have had it already so would not be surprised at all if I test positive.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

Subvisual Haze posted:

NEJM had a good data dive article on covid hospitalizations and what factors increase or decrease your chance of death once hospitalized. Patients who entered the hospital on ACE Inhibitors (lisinopril, enalapril, various others -prils, used for blood pressure and kidney protection) had a 2.1% death rate versus 6.1% for those not on ACE-Is. The only other drug class to show a noticeable benefit was Statins (cholesterol meds such as Simvastatin), they reduced the death rate down to 4.2%. Don't overread those stats though because they haven't been adjusted for confounding variables, but it's still pretty impressive.

So keep taking those ACE-Inhibitors or Statins if you got them.
Nm, I was on an angiotensin one
Lisinopril made me cough so much I had to stop taking it

Can you link it please? Nm, I found it. No benefit from an ARB

Spinz fucked around with this message at 01:16 on May 2, 2020

snake and bake
Feb 23, 2005

:theroni:
I'm in Florida, where most of the state is following DeSantis' plan for "phased re-opening."

Phase 1 starts on Monday. Basically everything is back open except for night clubs, bars, vacation rentals, and theme parks. Social gatherings up to 10 people are allowed.

Some types of businesses (restaurants, bowling alleys, concerts, movie theaters, retail stores) are supposed to limit capacity to 25-50% and enforce social distancing.

Salons, barbershops, etc. are also allowed to open if the employees all wear face masks and sanitize their stations between customers.

There are a lot of "businesses should consider"-type recommendations in the plan that will be almost universally disregarded.

Meanwhile, in preparation for the grand re-opening, DeSantis has ordered coroners to stop reporting corona virus death figures.

I'm fully expecting a huge spike in fatalities here within 2-3 weeks.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



snake and bake posted:

I'm in Florida, where most of the state is following DeSantis' plan for "phased re-opening."

Phase 1 starts on Monday. Basically everything is back open except for night clubs, bars, vacation rentals, and theme parks. Social gatherings up to 10 people are allowed.

Some types of businesses (restaurants, bowling alleys, concerts, movie theaters, retail stores) are supposed to limit capacity to 25-50% and enforce social distancing.

Salons, barbershops, etc. are also allowed to open if the employees all wear face masks and sanitize their stations between customers.

There are a lot of "businesses should consider"-type recommendations in the plan that will be almost universally disregarded.

Meanwhile, in preparation for the grand re-opening, DeSantis has ordered coroners to stop reporting corona virus death figures.

I'm fully expecting a huge spike in fatalities here within 2-3 weeks.
They must have changed this because I swear on Wed they said that gyms could not reopen yet

I'm also laughing at the idea that employers are going to do any kind of employee screening

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Spinz posted:

Nm, I was on an angiotensin one
Lisinopril made me cough so much I had to stop taking it

Can you link it please? Nm, I found it. No benefit from an ARB

Lisonopril was scary at the beginning of the spread because I wasn't ever sure if I had the cough from it or if I should self isolate.

Then, one day, it changed from a dry to a wet cough and I pulled the kids from school.

That was almost two months ago... I still have the cough.

Some weird illnesses going around besides Covid19

Warm Fish Salad
Dec 16, 2016

You Compleat Me
I just went back to work on Monday after taking two months off (used up all of my sick time and vacation). I work at a pet retail store where I normally do dog grooming and training, but because neither of those services are available right now, I've been working on the floor running register, stocking, and helping customers. It has been interesting to say the least. The amount of people who seem to just not care about the virus is disturbing, and the ones that are most vocal about it are almost always in the high risk age range. I've had three women it their 60's complain to me about the precautionary measures being too strict, that the virus wasn't really all that bad, etc. People are up in arms because they can't make returns or use our restrooms. The first thing I saw when I walked in the door on Monday was a sign in front of the register that said "PLEASE BE NICE TO YOUR ESSENTIAL WORKERS. THEY ARE HERE FOR YOUR ESSENTIAL ITEMS" which pretty much says it all. We're doomed.

BlackIronHeart
Aug 2, 2004

PROCEED

Warm Fish Salad posted:

The amount of people who seem to just not care about the virus is disturbing, and the ones that are most vocal about it are almost always in the high risk age range.

Yeah, I've noticed that when I'm at the grocery store and see someone without a mask the chances of them being an overweight man in the 50-75 age range is about 75%. It's weird that they just don't give a poo poo.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

Drunk Nerds posted:

Lisonopril was scary at the beginning of the spread because I wasn't ever sure if I had the cough from it or if I should self isolate.

Then, one day, it changed from a dry to a wet cough and I pulled the kids from school.

That was almost two months ago... I still have the cough.

Some weird illnesses going around besides Covid19

A persistent cough is a massively common side effect of Lisinopril, I got it right away when I was prescribed it a couple years ago and they immediately switched me to losartan which didn't have any side effects for me. ? Oc ianad

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Inept posted:

lmao they even allowed them to have their guns in the gallery that overlooks the state senate floor

https://twitter.com/SenPolehanki/status/1255899318210314241

Same page, as well as,two pages before. Don’t clutter plz

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

monkeytennis posted:

Your president reckons he’s seen the smoking gun:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us...newsus_spies%5D

Any gun dumb enough to take up smoking these days deserves it's cancer.

Gone Fashing
Aug 4, 2004

KEEP POSTIN
I'M STILL LAFFIN

Supreme Allah posted:

I wish toyota would sex these up a bit, anytime I consider a pick-up all the good looking ones are garbage quality-wise and vice versa

ive got a 2019 tacoma and i like the way it looks a lot. that ones an older model, i think they've jazzed it up pretty well in recent years

meat police
Nov 14, 2015

aw yeah lisinopril crew. Used to have normal blood pressure and hair before stress and cigarettes, but oh well ... guess at least I got that lower mortality rate. Silver linings and all that

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler
Well I went to urgent care and they gave me antibiotics so they weren't thinking covid. I guess it's easy to get worried about it since it's on everyone's mind right now. Hopefully I will improve on the antibiotics.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

Dixville posted:

Well I went to urgent care and they gave me antibiotics so they weren't thinking covid. I guess it's easy to get worried about it since it's on everyone's mind right now. Hopefully I will improve on the antibiotics.

Hopefully!!
From everything you've posted I thought for sure you had Covid

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

My local pizzeria was open for dine-ins when I got some to-go food from there today. Half of the tables were gone and just a couple of the bar seats remained. Two of the tables were vacant...

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

Quote is not edit.

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

Dixville posted:

Well I went to urgent care and they gave me antibiotics so they weren't thinking covid. I guess it's easy to get worried about it since it's on everyone's mind right now. Hopefully I will improve on the antibiotics.

My 70yo ex-colleague was treated by his family doctor with antibiotics, cough medicine and pain killers. Spent three weeks at home in bed but got better in the end. All the symptoms minus fever. No tests available in his country. It started after he had spent the week partying at the carnaval, so my guess is either covid19 or deadly withdrawals from too much samba. One week was critical, but they decided not to go to hospital because it would be worse there.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

WTF how did you get an X‐ray image of Governor Kemp’s mansion?

Ocean Book
Sep 27, 2010

:yum: - hi

snake and bake posted:


Some types of businesses (restaurants, bowling alleys, concerts, movie theaters, retail stores) are supposed to limit capacity to 25-50% and enforce social distancing.

Salons, barbershops, etc. are also allowed to open if the employees all wear face masks and sanitize their stations between customers.


I hate poo poo like this because who's going to be auditing and enforcing this poo poo? I mean I get that the point is to provide a pretext of doing something while not having to actually do anything, but it does annoy me.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Ocean Book posted:

I hate poo poo like this because who's going to be auditing and enforcing this poo poo? I mean I get that the point is to provide a pretext of doing something while not having to actually do anything, but it does annoy me.

lol remember that the EPA and USDA have suspended inspections?

Good times.

Ocean Book
Sep 27, 2010

:yum: - hi
like everyone knows the logic of paid work - unless someone is making you do things you cut every corner you can. extra cleaning is extra work. wearing a mask is annoying and your just gonna pull it down under your chin. your supervisor sees it but he doesnt want to deal with it either. no one follows the rules, everyone knows it, and since there are no consequences nothing happens

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:

My 70yo ex-colleague was treated by his family doctor with antibiotics, cough medicine and pain killers. Spent three weeks at home in bed but got better in the end. All the symptoms minus fever. No tests available in his country. It started after he had spent the week partying at the carnaval, so my guess is either covid19 or deadly withdrawals from too much samba. One week was critical, but they decided not to go to hospital because it would be worse there.

Yeah if I don't start getting better soon I'll probably go get tested. No sure what doctors would even do for coronarrhea anyway though

Pitdragon
Jan 20, 2004
Just another lurker

Ocean Book posted:

I hate poo poo like this because who's going to be auditing and enforcing this poo poo? I mean I get that the point is to provide a pretext of doing something while not having to actually do anything, but it does annoy me.

i have a friend who is a manager at a lovely retail store that decided it was essential and apparently corporate expects the managers to put together some kind of plexiglass divider and take the temperatures of employees coming in to work by reaching their hand around the divider with a thermometer before clearing them for work

customers may come and go as they please, no masks or gloves required!

so yeah they don't give a gently caress it's just so when the smoke clears and the damage is fully revealed they can point to their half-measures and say "we did what we could, see? not our liability!"

The Strangest Finch
Nov 23, 2007

BlackIronHeart posted:

Yeah, I've noticed that when I'm at the grocery store and see someone without a mask the chances of them being an overweight man in the 50-75 age range is about 75%. It's weird that they just don't give a poo poo.

I mean, not wearing a mask is just another way of treating your body like poo poo. That's already par for the course for a lot of people (especially down where I live).

That said, basically no one in my town has been wearing a mask the past two times I've ventured to the grocery. Georgians are loving morons.

AlphaKeny1
Feb 17, 2006

RIP red states

astral
Apr 26, 2004

This article has a lot of pics of that Huntington Beach, CA protest:
https://www.ocregister.com/2020/05/01/thousands-of-protesters-flock-to-huntington-beach-following-state-ordered-oc-beach-closures/

:argh: Bill Gates!

meat police
Nov 14, 2015

Take the red pill, drat you just took prednisone. Welcome to the machine sheep

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

meat police posted:

Take the red pill, drat you just took prednisone. Welcome to the machine sheep

its estradiol

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

My brother had the roni. He nearly died. Over a month in a ventilator and induced coma. Multiple organ failure.


He went home today.




Still a long road of recovery ahead, but he went home.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

Part of the reason why our health care system is so abysmal is because you have wealthy rear end in a top hat lawmakers like Lindsey Graham who have no interest in engaging with factual information or reality itself, which leads to him seriously contending that unemployed workers struggling during the worst epidemic in the past century were making $17/hour, instead of, uh, maybe $11/hour, after they lost their job working the front desk at their closed hotel... and that's a high wage for many workers in our terrible economy. The people who dictate health care policy in our hosed up horrible nation are so out-of-touch with actual society time and time again. That's one of many reasons why we've never thrown it in the trash.

You know what's a really loving stupid thing? Lindsey Graham is not even close to rich enough to justify his position personally. As of 2018, his net worth was still under $1 million.

21st Cherry boy
Jan 28, 2004
i'm a girl, fucktard
I got an antibodies test through my work and it came back negative. I was really hoping I'd already had it and was asymptomatic. drat. I'm trying to see if my dad can get one, since he took care of my mom for a week at home before she went to the hospital and never got sick, I assume he caught it. Does anyone know if any clinics in Connecticut are offering testing? Google is not helpful. Here in Brooklyn some urgent care places have them but apparently the line can get long.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Ultimate Mango posted:

My brother had the roni. He nearly died. Over a month in a ventilator and induced coma. Multiple organ failure.


He went home today.




Still a long road of recovery ahead, but he went home.

Happy to hear this and I hope he recovers well

Telemaze
Apr 22, 2008

What you expected hasn't happened.
Fun Shoe

Ultimate Mango posted:

My brother had the roni. He nearly died. Over a month in a ventilator and induced coma. Multiple organ failure.


He went home today.




Still a long road of recovery ahead, but he went home.

That's great to hear, I hope the rest of his recovery goes well.

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Whooping Crabs
Apr 13, 2010

Sorry for the derail but I fuckin love me some racoons

Subvisual Haze posted:

NEJM had a good data dive article on covid hospitalizations and what factors increase or decrease your chance of death once hospitalized. Patients who entered the hospital on ACE Inhibitors (lisinopril, enalapril, various others -prils, used for blood pressure and kidney protection) had a 2.1% death rate versus 6.1% for those not on ACE-Is. The only other drug class to show a noticeable benefit was Statins (cholesterol meds such as Simvastatin), they reduced the death rate down to 4.2%. Don't overread those stats though because they haven't been adjusted for confounding variables, but it's still pretty impressive.

So keep taking those ACE-Inhibitors or Statins if you got them.

I just watched a webinar that showed a bunch of data from different studies showing that t-cells are depleted on admission, and the more they are depleted the more severe the infection will become. Also there are studies that have shown some efficacy of IL-6 inhibitors to prevent mortality from disease. The University of Virginia's remdesivir trial is showing a decrease in mortality from 11% down to 8%, with recovery times 31% faster.

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