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Gripweed posted:You don't have to pick your favorite rapist. You can refuse. Will that lead to a rapist not taking charge? If so, please, by all means, explain how.
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RBA Starblade posted:Will that lead to a rapist not taking charge? If so, please, by all means, explain how. if a violent, racist, rapist is an inevitability then you can just opt out of participation.
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May 2, 2020 04:35
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VitalSigns posted:Is it relevant. What you're seeing from both candidates and their supporters is basically the normalization of rape. That it's actually good and cool to attack rape victims by shaming them for speaking up and questioning them when they do in fact have very good evidence. Joe Biden is profoundly weird and touchy, especially on young girls. He's on camera, eyes closed, blissfully smelling the hair of young women and girls. He's creepy as gently caress and that's what he does in public. Less Uncle Joe, more Uncle Touchy. I think that it's a positive thing for men to like kids in a non-creepy way because men are half of the biological process of making them and ideally, in a heterosexual relationship, would spend time raising their children. But gently caress if people like Biden creeping on children doesn't just gently caress it up for everyone by being a goddamn pervert creep on literally loving children, holy poo poo. Don't touch children like a child molester would. Don't compliment a fourteen year old's breasts. Don't rape people. And somehow we have not just one, but two presidential candidates who do this poo poo. Trump with Epstein and Joe Biden with being constantly on camera creeping on children. The only thing I want Joe Biden to do is to get pushed out the loving airlock. I want his near corpse to be used as reaction mass and we can get the gently caress away from this rapist creep faster. This man who wants to reach across the aisle to work with the republicans, who are rapidly becoming Nazis. Joe Biden cannot die fast enough nor can his enablers. Fire them into the sun. Feed them to velociraptors. Anything so long as Satan can finally claim his own once more. Ice Phisherman fucked around with this message at 04:38 on May 2, 2020 |
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May 2, 2020 04:35
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RBA Starblade posted:Will that lead to a rapist not taking charge? If so, please, by all means, explain how. How will voting for a rapist lead to a rapist not taking charge? If it won't, why do you hold others to a higher standard than yourself?
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May 2, 2020 04:35
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Eminai posted:How will voting for a rapist lead to a rapist not taking charge? If it won't, why do you hold others to a higher standard than yourself? I do not, I am under no delusion about the possible outcomes of our actions.
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May 2, 2020 04:37
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RBA Starblade posted:Will that lead to a rapist not taking charge? If so, please, by all means, explain how. If there's no option for a non-rapist, don't participate. Don't support a rapist. Vote third party or not at all.
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May 2, 2020 04:38
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RBA Starblade posted:Will that lead to a rapist not taking charge? If so, please, by all means, explain how. If your argument is that my vote doesn't matter, why do you want me to vote for a rapist so bad, just for fun? No.
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May 2, 2020 04:40
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Yeah, they let you vote in all the other races, even if you don't vote for President!
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May 2, 2020 04:40
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Gripweed posted:If there's no option for a non-rapist, don't participate. Don't support a rapist. Vote third party or not at all. You didn't answer the question.
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May 2, 2020 04:41
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Just don't vote for any rapist whatsoever.
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May 2, 2020 04:41
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RBA Starblade posted:You didn't answer the question. what the gently caress do you want here? Right, no non-rapists running for prez, poo poo sucks, we hosed around and found out. So just don't vote for either then, who gives a poo poo?
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May 2, 2020 04:42
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RBA Starblade posted:You didn't answer the question. If a rapist is inevitable, the least you can do is not be part of the reason why. Because right now, you are part of the problem. You are dead set on picking the best rapist and giving him your support. You can not bemoan the outcome if you actively work to make it happen
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May 2, 2020 04:43
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If a rapist is inevitable, then no action I take, or do not take, will impact that, by definition. I'm going to aim to minimize the damage then, instead.
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May 2, 2020 04:46
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it's literally just that vine. When there's drama you can always just walk awaaaaaaaaay~
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May 2, 2020 04:46
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RBA Starblade posted:Will that lead to a rapist not taking charge? If so, please, by all means, explain how. No. Also you won't be voting for a rapist. So, morally...
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RBA Starblade posted:If a rapist is inevitable, then no action I take, or do not take, will impact that, by definition. I'm going to aim to minimize the damage then, instead. the rapists are both the same damage, you cannot minimize it, it sucks but that's the position we're in, vote downballot and support non rapist progressives
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May 2, 2020 04:47
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Gripweed posted:You feel it is morally acceptable to support a rapist for president. You are in no position of moral superiority here. I fully accept that I will be morally compromising myself by casting a vote for a rapist. I just want to make it clear that you are compromising yourself every bit as much by allowing nazis to flourish. There is no option here that does not have an immoral outcome, least of all doing nothing. sexpig by night posted:what the gently caress do you want here? Right, no non-rapists running for prez, poo poo sucks, we hosed around and found out. So just don't vote for either then, who gives a poo poo? Neo-nazis give a poo poo that you will be letting them rule.
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May 2, 2020 04:48
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relax-o-vision posted:I fully accept that I will be morally compromising myself by casting a vote for a rapist. I just want to make it clear that you are compromising yourself every bit as much by allowing nazis to flourish. There is no option here that does not have an immoral outcome, least of all doing nothing. oh yea, better vote for the other guy who's history is full of white supremacy and violence against people of color then
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May 2, 2020 04:49
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I'm about 4 years past caring about the difference between the guys who want to put me in a camp and the ones who think the camp should have a tether-ball court and a woman/LGBTQ+ friendly hiring policy.
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May 2, 2020 04:50
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RBA Starblade posted:I do not, I am under no delusion about the possible outcomes of our actions. You're under the delusion that one of the possible outcomes of your actions is that your vote will decide which rapist becomes president of the United States. It won't. In the end, all your vote will decide is who you see in the mirror November 4th. I know I'll see somebody who didn't decide to reward a rapist with power over nearly every person he comes into contact with.
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May 2, 2020 04:51
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relax-o-vision posted:I fully accept that I will be morally compromising myself by casting a vote for a rapist. I just want to make it clear that you are compromising yourself every bit as much by allowing nazis to flourish. There is no option here that does not have an immoral outcome, least of all doing nothing. The Democratic Party is the one letting them rule, if they wanted the votes of people who don't vote for rapists, they'd not nominate a rapist. I'm not responsible for the DNC's decision to help Nazis into power, go yell at them
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May 2, 2020 04:52
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Biden has a long and storied history of being a racist, so I don't think he'll do anything about white supremacists writ large.
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May 2, 2020 04:53
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Gripweed posted:I'm not voting for a rapist. There is no justification for voting for a rapist. I'll either vote for a candidate who has never committed a rape, or I won't vote at all. But I will not use the tiny little inconsequential power of a vote I have to put a rapist in the whitehouse. Then dont vote for either, just vote down ballot you brain dead miracle (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Parrotine posted:Then dont vote for either, just vote down ballot you brain dead miracle I mean, yeah, that's what everyone is advocating.
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May 2, 2020 04:56
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Gripweed posted:If there's no option for a non-rapist, don't participate. Don't support a rapist. Vote third party or not at all. Sometimes you just gotta walk away from Omelas. (Flipping the bird while you do it is optional, of course.)
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Syenite posted:Biden has a long and storied history of being a racist, so I don't think he'll do anything about white supremacists writ large. It doesn't actually matter whether Biden does anything about neo-nazis. They don't see him as one of their own, unlike Trump. He doesn't represent them. Trump's mere presence in the white house is, in and of itself, the condition which enfranchises neo-nazis.
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A point of that story was walking away from Omelas did not fix the monstrosity it was built upon. Eminai posted:You're under the delusion that one of the possible outcomes of your actions is that your vote will decide which rapist becomes president of the United States. It won't. In the end, all your vote will decide is who you see in the mirror November 4th. I know I'll see somebody who didn't decide to reward a rapist with power over nearly every person he comes into contact with. If you don't vote do you see a void with the winning rapist within? RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 05:01 on May 2, 2020 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Not voting is acceptance of the status quo, a rapist in charge, or not caring what the outcome will be which is a rapist in charge. Or we hold elections and tally votes? the gently caress are you talking about with this incumbent poo poo like election is predetermined, it's like voting nihilism
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May 2, 2020 05:00
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relax-o-vision posted:It doesn't actually matter whether Biden does anything about neo-nazis. They don't see him as one of their own, unlike Trump. He doesn't represent them. Trump's mere presence in the white house is, in and of itself, the condition which enfranchises neo-nazis. I think you'll find Biden represents the interests of the neo-nazis quite, what with being a white male segregationist in charge e: who exports minorities in record numbers and cages children to boot
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Unoriginal Name posted:Or we hold elections and tally votes? the gently caress are you talking about with this incumbent poo poo like election is predetermined, it's like voting nihilism Of course it's not predetermined, but I see no outcome in which a rapist does not take change of America as of now. Do you? Please, tell me how, then.
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RBA Starblade posted:Of course it's not predetermined, but I see no outcome in which a rapist does not take change of America as of now. Do you? Yes, that why I'll be writing in non-rapists until one wins Being unable to visualize the possibility of positive change is why I called it nihilism
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Unoriginal Name posted:Yes, that why I'll be writing in non-rapists until one wins How are you planning on writing in more than one there?
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What a fascinating moral dilemma, to vote for the lesser of two rapists or not vote at all and abdicate all responsibility for the outcome. I wonder how long this debate will continue. Six months?
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It's always funny to me how being "friends" with Obama made everyone forget how much racist poo poo Biden has done.
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Wilbur Swain posted:What a fascinating moral dilemma, to vote for the lesser of two rapists or not vote at all and abdicate all responsibility for the outcome. I wonder how long this debate will continue. Six months? I'm going to guess four years and six months.
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Wilbur Swain posted:What a fascinating moral dilemma, to vote for the lesser of two rapists or not vote at all and abdicate all responsibility for the outcome. I wonder how long this debate will continue. Six months? Four months after the election, minimum.
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generic one posted:You two remember in 2005 when Dubbya put forward an initiative to privatize Social Security? Do you remember he couldn't do it? Just like pre-Clinton republicans couldn't gut welfare, and Trump couldn't dump the ACA. To get rid of benefits it helps tremendously to have Democratic buy in.
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relax-o-vision posted:It doesn't actually matter whether Biden does anything about neo-nazis. They don't see him as one of their own, unlike Trump. He doesn't represent them. Trump's mere presence in the white house is, in and of itself, the condition which enfranchises neo-nazis. I was going to sympathize with you earlier because militia members just occupied the perimeter of a historically black cemetery in my town and I'm pretty pissed, but hoo boy have you been high on your horse, and I'm not entirely sure why since you don't seem to understand how nazis operate. Like, the Weimar Republic, do you think that dissuaded the Nazi movement from advancing? Ineffective liberal governments are actually the perfect spawning ground for fascism because it gives them a credible enemy and establishes a credible failure to inspire behind. Right now nazis feel enfranchised, sure, but also a weird mix of content and weirdly dissatisfied with Trump, that he "doesn't go far enough." I don't think there's any point in keeping Trump in office to keep nazis in that form of limbo because I think meta-decisions like that about politics are pointless. But assuming this nazi thing gets better with an inarticulate rapist in office? How do you think Trump came to power? Or what has lifted up Bernie as high as he got? The ineffectual administrations of people like Biden that are making people angrier and angrier and angrier. You're mad about these occupations? Wait until you get the outright overthrow. And who's going to stop them? Biden will legislate antifas rights away to counteract this poo poo because he couldn't stand them protesting him. The cure to nazis isn't the guy who makes student debt non-dischargeable, y'know? It's like voting for the Treaty of Versailles in an attempt to stop the Kristallnacht.
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Unoriginal Name posted:I think you'll find Biden represents the interests of the neo-nazis quite, what with being a white male segregationist in charge Neo-nazis do not think Biden represents their interests. They see Trump as their avatar, and every day that Trump is in power is a day that neo-nazis are represented and enfranchised on the global stage.
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relax-o-vision posted:Neo-nazis do not think Biden represents their interests. They see Trump as their avatar, and every day that Trump is in power is a day that neo-nazis are represented and enfranchised on the global stage. I do not concern myself with opinions of nazis, especially about nazism
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