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Zero VGS posted:Best comparison I can think of is Undertale, people who were fans were like "yeah this is a once in a lifetime thing, no way will a followup live up to that standard", and then the guy released Deltarune Chapter 1 outta loving nowhere and for free. Some people are genuises at knowing what their own audience wants better than their own audience does. IIRC, apparently Deltarune is closer to the original project Tobyfox wanted to do but didn't have the budget/confidence for, while Undertale made as a less ambitious, more self-contained project reusing (and remixing) some of the same ideas.
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I actually doubt that they'd make another similar game as a follow up due to how troublesome development was and the fact that their publisher is Humble which means that even though their game sold very well for an indie project they're probably not sharing in the profit as much as you would expect.
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May 2, 2020 09:50
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Zero VGS posted:Best comparison I can think of is Undertale, people who were fans were like "yeah this is a once in a lifetime thing, no way will a followup live up to that standard", and then the guy released Deltarune Chapter 1 outta loving nowhere and for free. Some people are genuises at knowing what their own audience wants better than their own audience does. Edit - I mean, I'm sure the full game might have... something. But the first chapter doesn't.
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May 2, 2020 10:12
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Xander77 posted:Are people enthusiastic about Deltarune? Why? Which of the voices in Harry's head is most likely to be the one to angrily shout "YOU JUST POSTED CRINGE"? Working on a little edit, totally unrelated to this post I promise.
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May 2, 2020 13:59
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Which of the voices in Harry's head is most likely to be the one to angrily shout "YOU JUST POSTED CRINGE"? Working on a little edit, totally unrelated to this post I promise. For some reason, I want to say EC.
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May 2, 2020 14:05
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I'd say Volition, followed by Mental Damage.
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May 2, 2020 14:08
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Which of the voices in Harry's head is most likely to be the one to angrily shout "YOU JUST POSTED CRINGE"? Working on a little edit, totally unrelated to this post I promise. Limbic System
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May 2, 2020 14:11
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I really like this game. It's beautiful and sad and lonely. But it is in a very real way a fantastic way of revealing what we want.
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May 2, 2020 14:43
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Which of the voices in Harry's head is most likely to be the one to angrily shout "YOU JUST POSTED CRINGE"? Working on a little edit, totally unrelated to this post I promise. Half light. or Pain Threshold
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May 2, 2020 14:53
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Somewhere the wind blows through an open window in a rundown apartment. A man reads your post. The city exhales.
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May 2, 2020 15:32
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Your post: Why did you make me so bad, father?
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May 2, 2020 15:38
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Wafflecopper posted:Yeah the writing is good enough that I have full confidence they can make another amazing game whatever the setting. There's no reason it won't be good if it's in the same world and given the amount of worldbuilding that's gone into it I'd be extremely surprised if it isn't. Same. It's all down to the writing, and lord knows there are authors who can write more than one good book. Whoever crafted the plot of DE and the dialogue and theming is incredibly talented, and the actual gameplay systems are not complicated (if anything, they're a little underdeveloped in DE). It's just a question of whether or not they can come up with another interesting story to tell, and just from all the hooks in DE there's obviously already places they're thinking about exploring.
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May 2, 2020 16:55
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Out of curiosity, what comes to mind for you when this song starts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u_2BcmMDq8
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May 2, 2020 17:52
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Captain Splendid posted:Out of curiosity, what comes to mind for you when this song starts? So did I complete the computer tape program quest or not? All the dialogue has been used. What was the conclusion to this poo poo?
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May 3, 2020 00:59
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Animal-Mother posted:So did I complete the computer tape program quest or not? All the dialogue has been used. What was the conclusion to this poo poo? I think using the password on the financial records back in the offices is really more of just an easter egg? Like "look at how long of a text string this engine supports".
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May 3, 2020 03:52
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DropsySufferer posted:I do not want a sequel. This is a once in a decade game I don't expect them to catch lighting in a bottle twice. The expectations for the sequel will be too high and there is no possible way thet can be reached. I want a novel or comic written in the voice of shivers and limbic.
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May 3, 2020 04:31
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Can't figure out why I can't get The Suicide of Kras Mazov to trigger when I look at his bust in the appartement and talk to Kim. I've got Mazovian Socio-Economics already, and according to the stats on the right side of the Journal screen, 26 points or whatever in Communist. I can't seem to find another prerequisite.
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May 3, 2020 07:41
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Xander77 posted:Are people enthusiastic about Deltarune? Why? Well, did you play Undertale? I haven't heard of many people who enjoyed that and didn't enjoy Deltarune Chapter 1. It was a fun romp that captured a lot of the same magic while gracefully introducing new story and gameplay concepts, and even came up with a few more bangin' tracks. Like, go back and find the SA thread when Deltarune first came out, people were losing their poo poo that it was a free game, people were realizing it was much more substantial than a demo, it had the power of fluffy boys etc.
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Zero VGS posted:Well, did you play Undertale? I haven't heard of many people who enjoyed that and didn't enjoy Deltarune Chapter 1. It was a fun romp that captured a lot of the same magic while gracefully introducing new story and gameplay concepts, and even came up with a few more bangin' tracks. I honestly have no idea what people found appealing about Deltarune. There's very little there.
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SweetBro posted:I actually doubt that they'd make another similar game as a follow up due to how troublesome development was and the fact that their publisher is Humble which means that even though their game sold very well for an indie project they're probably not sharing in the profit as much as you would expect. actually, the leader of the group already did interviews with what they want to do in the future. they want a baldur's gate 2 to the DE's baldur's gate one: DE was just an experiment trying to find a way to make the combat-less RPG work. That's why it was so troubled, they struggled hard with making the ideas work. Now, they would refine it and focus on telling an even better story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X0-W5erEXw
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May 3, 2020 13:46
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Isn’t a combatless RPG just a point-and-click adventure game? I love DE, but the idea that the core gameplay is innovative is a little silly. The game shines because of its writing, worldbuilding, and visual style. It’s doing an existing genre really well!
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May 3, 2020 15:43
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It's a novel implementation of XP, stats, and skills, if nothing else.
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May 3, 2020 15:44
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The fact that it has few or any 'mandatory' abilities to avoid hard-gating your progress and actually makes every build viable is actually pretty impressive from a mechanical standpoint.
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dex_sda posted:actually, the leader of the group already did interviews with what they want to do in the future. they want a baldur's gate 2 to the DE's baldur's gate one So, I realize I may be just about the only person who would actually prefer a direct sequel with the same cast, following up with the sequel hook that was left at the end of the game, and that while this is unlikely to happen, the specific mention of having a Baldur's Gate 2 style follow up does give me a little bit of silly, unfounded hope. 
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MidnightHailstorm posted:So, I realize I may be just about the only person who would actually prefer a direct sequel with the same cast, following up with the sequel hook that was left at the end of the game, and that while this is unlikely to happen, the specific mention of having a Baldur's Gate 2 style follow up does give me a little bit of silly, unfounded hope. They did put out a message saying to hold on to your save game so I wouldn't be surprised if they do some sort of "the next morning" type thing. Nothing massive but a little hour or so of content that would be dusting off the events of the previous day, like telling Lena about the mantis and showing them the picture if you got it, that sort of thing.
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whydirt posted:Isn’t a combatless RPG just a point-and-click adventure game? no
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whydirt posted:Isn’t a combatless RPG just a point-and-click adventure game? What? No, it's an RPG. They're not defined by combat. You're doing checks and working with stats all the time, it's totally different from a point-and-click adventure. It's not like you just get a thought called "communism" and use it on a communist character to "solve" their dialog. The way that all these things are filtered through systems in order to affect dialog is what makes it an RPG by any definition.
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May 3, 2020 22:58
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whydirt posted:Isn’t a combatless RPG just a point-and-click adventure game? There's a design space for tabletop rpgs without combat and DE proves there's a place for it in videogames too.
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The setting is far too juicy to abandon in a sequel. I don't need to play as Harry again, but I'd like to. RCM communist uprising, baby!
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For what it's worth, here's one of their sequel ideasquote:An end goal of theirs is for the sequel to have a second main protagonist. Rather than Disco Elysium’s middle aged male cop, players could choose to be a pregnant woman, about five months along, which Kurvitz says would be an “incredible writing challenge” within Disco Elysium’s very weird, very internalised system of skills and thoughts. “It would be unbelievable to use our skill system to speak about the bodily sensations of having another organism inside of you, while you’re in the setting and talking to another person.” I call that quite a spicy meatball.
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May 4, 2020 00:23
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That would own but only if they actually hire or consult a bunch of moms and pregnant women. Media getting pregnancy poo poo wrong really bugs me.
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May 4, 2020 00:26
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Lmao I believe the next paragraph of the article is how they would only do it if there was a pregnant woman on the team. Woke Also, poking around from the game's early dev, I think they wanted to experiment with a companion/protagonist that was bound to a wheelchair & couldn't go everywhere? I'm on board with whatever they do next
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May 4, 2020 00:29
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that was lena, wasn't it? there's screenshots of her in the party
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:that was lena, wasn't it? there's screenshots of her in the party Yeah. IIRC the idea got cut because of the problems inherent in making the enough of the map believably wheelchair accessible.
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FalconImpala posted:Lmao I believe the next paragraph of the article is how they would only do it if there was a pregnant woman on the team. Woke Thank god haha. That would be awesome.
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Khizan posted:Yeah. IIRC the idea got cut because of the problems inherent in making the enough of the map believably wheelchair accessible. Just give her rockets
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Ragnar34 posted:I'm down for whatever they put out, but I'd like to see a completely different story in the same genre of games, whatever it is. "Good visual novel?" "True RPG?" Kentucky Route Zero is in the same 'genre' as this game but it isn't an RPG. You get a lot of influence on the game through dialogue options. As an early example, you're selecting a character's responses during a phone conversation. But you can only see their response options, not what the person on the other end of the phone is saying, so it's up to you to pick the dialogue options that make for a satisfying story for you. The Council is another spin on a no-combat-system RPG with stats and solving mysteries. It plays like a Telltale game, not a point-and-click. It also starts off shaky and goes very poorly off the deep end with really uneven episodes and shoddy production so it's hard to recommend, but I thought it was neat before Disco Elysium came out and it shows there are other developers thinking about this sort of thing. Torment: Tides of Numenera is basically a worse attempt at this game in a fantasy setting. There's a rudimentary combat system but the game is designed so that combat is easily avoidable; you can be a Glaive (fighter), Jack (rogue) or Nano (mage) and Nano is obviously the superior choice because it gives you more points to spend on being smart in dialogues as well as wizard-powers in fights and then you can just recruit other people to be your fighters. Unavowed is nothing really like this game but it is a good point-and-click adventure. Imagine a Bioware-esque game (missions, selectable party members, you get to choose your character's gender and backstory) except it's put into an urban fantasy point and click.
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Finally finished this game after kind of bouncing off it back in January. The middle of the game was extremely good, and I was glued to the screen all the way up to the tribunal. The ending felt... a little lacking. Was it seriously all caused by a giant stick bug mind controlling an old commie sniper?  Definitely gonna have to do another run of it though, I hosed up on a LOT of things.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Which of the voices in Harry's head is most likely to be the one to angrily shout "YOU JUST POSTED CRINGE"? Working on a little edit, totally unrelated to this post I promise. Definitely whatever the opposite of Drama is. Drama is the essence of cringe.
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Fister Roboto posted:Was it seriously all caused by a giant stick bug mind controlling an old commie sniper? You... can interpret it that way, but it robs the commie sniper of a lot of his agency. I don't think you can argue he wouldn't have taken certain shots if it weren't for the insect, anyway.
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