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some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Gripweed posted:

No, in fact they famously wanted a goth gf

boooo

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Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

uber_stoat posted:

to be fair, so are Swedish people.

the black people are "natural warriors" though. :hmbol:

the infamous "+5 to blunt"

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

The Muppets On PCP posted:

the only remotely good thing associated with wh40k is bolt thrower


my general rule for metal bands is there's a proportional relationship between how good the band is and the less they take themselves seriously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5KjkwfYYBw

Serf
May 5, 2011


Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Omnicarus posted:

Wait which is right Orcs or Orkz or Orcz or Orks?

yes

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

branson talkigna bout how he doesnt like warhammer orks and hasnt seen bright was annoying because those are the two most dudes rock depictions of orcs of all time. 40k orks literally drive four wheelers!!!!

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Farm Frenzy posted:

branson talkigna bout how he doesnt like warhammer orks and hasnt seen bright was annoying because those are the two most dudes rock depictions of orcs of all time. 40k orks literally drive four wheelers!!!!

Both their science and magic is premised on dumb guy energy

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

Varinn posted:

every lovely fantasy book reads like this



Gwen, stop posting here.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Fantasy drools scifi rules

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Gripweed posted:

No, in fact they famously wanted a goth gf

lol

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Farm Frenzy posted:

branson talkigna bout how he doesnt like warhammer orks and hasnt seen bright was annoying because those are the two most dudes rock depictions of orcs of all time. 40k orks literally drive four wheelers!!!!

when he referred to Warhammer as exhausting, he meant the bullshit about building models and painting them

real dudes don't have time for that

We need an Ork based switch game

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


do we post youtubes here as well or what

anyway mia mulder did a good one recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaGzJdPs5NY

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

uber_stoat posted:

to be fair, so are Swedish people.

the black people are "natural warriors" though. :hmbol:

don’t step up to Hammerfell. I love swordsinging and I want the next game to be set in the Redguard Homeland

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

PawParole posted:

don’t step up to Hammerfell. I love swordsinging and I want the next game to be set in the Redguard Homeland

idk what the redguard homeland lore is but bethesda would make it wakanda

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china
TrueAnon is twitch streaming how to use synths, it's pretty good

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

olives black posted:

this is a terrible loving meme and I hate it

Shut up nerd, play Morrowind

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Farm Frenzy posted:

idk what the redguard homeland lore is but bethesda would make it wakanda

Yokuda was sunk by elvish magic.

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

PawParole posted:

Yokuda was sunk by elvish magic.

oh wow thats even worse. theyd just make the most generic pirate game known to man

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Brace Belden is CIA because he was in the same army unit as Chelsea Manning
https://twitter.com/catdadaeternal/status/1253747936208486404?s=20
https://twitter.com/catdadaeternal/status/1253763340322603008?s=20

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

dead gay comedy forums posted:

do we post youtubes here as well or what

anyway mia mulder did a good one recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaGzJdPs5NY

tehres a thread about youtubes in the podcast subforum but its the worst thread ive ever seen and is currently having a debate about whether it is ethical for a leftist to have a patreon so please start posting that poo poo here

The Ultimate Doge
May 1, 2019

by Nyc_Tattoo

dead gay comedy forums posted:

do we post youtubes here as well or what

anyway mia mulder did a good one recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaGzJdPs5NY

Man I wish leftist youtubers used cartoon avatars for their videos like libertarians do

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Farm Frenzy posted:

tehres a thread about youtubes in the podcast subforum but its the worst thread ive ever seen and is currently having a debate about whether it is ethical for a leftist to have a patreon so please start posting that poo poo here

nnnnnnghhh yeah I totally see the point. apologies

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011



any particular reason why that would be suspect?

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

dead gay comedy forums posted:

nnnnnnghhh yeah I totally see the point. apologies

no no im being serious i love youtube crap

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

dead gay comedy forums posted:

any particular reason why that would be suspect?

"Chelsea Manning is a psyop" is a real part of left twitter

Also Brace was never in the army as far as I know which makes it much funnier

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

I don't think he was ever in the US army anyways but lmao at the idea that the cia is embedding or recruiting staff from the enlisted infantry

Crane Fist posted:

The EIC absolutely did not have lower levels of technology than the people they were raiding, the only real driver behind their success was "better guns, better at firing guns"

No, the driver was capitalism. India was a pre-modern state and most of its the political leaders or the soldierly classes were uninterested in resisting the British outside of an impersonal cause. Thus Indian power structures came around to the EIC's side, both formal and informal. The states that resisted this were crushed by a coalitions mostly composed of Indian soldiers, under hire of the EIC or its allies. The Brits on the other hand were motivated by money and financial returns, and very few of them ever decided to defect with a haul of cash. Although some did, those men were cool, a trait that Anglo society cannot respect

Indians of course, did not resemble orcs. Maybe some of the soldiers did, but soldiers were violent psychos everywhere. The Reconquista was successful on part of the Almogavars, which were Christian mountain men that would live in the woods and occasionally pillage towns and abduct people. Crazy guys like this tend to be useful in wars, but as human beings they are amoral dangers to society.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
getting yourself locked up in a torture dungeon for years is a real commitment to the bit, respect.

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Atrocious Joe posted:

"Chelsea Manning is a psyop" is a real part of left twitter

Also Brace was never in the army as far as I know which makes it much funnier

Twitter man is confused, chelsea manning was in the same army unit as reality winner and spencer rapone (epic communism hat guy). Brace wrote a lot for vice when he was fighting in rojava, which is probably more morally reprehensible than being in the army

just another
Oct 16, 2009

these dead towns that make the maps wrong now
Is it okay to like Aimee Terese & What's Left or is she verboten

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

No, the driver was capitalism. India was a pre-modern state and most of its the political leaders or the soldierly classes were uninterested in resisting the British outside of an impersonal cause. Thus Indian power structures came around to the EIC's side, both formal and informal. The states that resisted this were crushed by a coalitions mostly composed of Indian soldiers, under hire of the EIC or its allies. The Brits on the other hand were motivated by money and financial returns, and very few of them ever decided to defect with a haul of cash. Although some did, those men were cool, a trait that Anglo society cannot respect

The power structures who "came around" did so once the EIC had established themselves as enough of a force to be useful in the endless regional scraps that went on. That only became plausible once Calcutta had been established as a power centre by virtue of Clive pushing back the Mughal armies which was done with a combination of sheer luck and European weapons and training. The EIC sepoys were basically an unmatched force until enough french mercenaries and engineers started teaching the Marathas etc. how to use the fire and file effectively

Capitalism is what brought the EIC to India, it's what splintered all the coalitions against them, it's what set the Jagat Seths at odds with the emperor, etc but what made all of it possible was force of arms

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

just another posted:

Is it okay to like Aimee Terese & What's Left or is she verboten

verboten but do it anyway

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

just another posted:

Is it okay to like Aimee Terese & What's Left or is she verboten

She's the only podcaster to get called a cryptofash who actually is one

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

T-man posted:

Fantasy drools scifi rules
my buddy

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

just another posted:

Is it okay to like Aimee Terese & What's Left or is she verboten

if you need to ask you know the answer

Hardon Crime
Jan 15, 2020

hubba hubba hubba hubba

uber_stoat posted:

getting yourself locked up in a torture dungeon for years is a real commitment to the bit, respect.

That was a different SA poster who went to Syria

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Crane Fist posted:

The EIC absolutely did not have lower levels of technology than the people they were raiding, the only real driver behind their success was "better guns, better at firing guns"

They couldn’t even get the Mughals to give them a Firman of trade in the 1740’s, and they imported literally billions of everything from India , from advanced steel to textiles.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

PawParole posted:

They couldn’t even get the Mughals to give them a Firman of trade in the 1740’s, and they imported literally billions of everything from India , from advanced steel to textiles.

I'm assuming by "imported" you mean "stole, at gunpoint"

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

no, they had to import most things using boxes of Spanish bullion. This is early East Indian company time, around Childes War

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

The conflicts heavily affected major cities like Mumbai, Madras, Kolkata and Chittagong, which resulted the intervention of Emperor Aurangzeb, who seized all the factories of the company and arrested members of the British Army, while the company forces commanded by Sir Josiah Child, Bt captured further Mughal trading ships and set the houses on fire of many faujdars.

Ultimately the British East India Company was defeated by the army of the Mughal Empire and the company was fined 150.000 rupees (roughly equivalent to today's $4.4 million). The company's apology was accepted and the old firman was granted by Emperor Aurangzeb.

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Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Crane Fist posted:

The EIC absolutely did not have lower levels of technology than the people they were raiding, the only real driver behind their success was "better guns, better at firing guns"

Crane Fist posted:

The power structures who "came around" did so once the EIC had established themselves as enough of a force to be useful in the endless regional scraps that went on. That only became plausible once Calcutta had been established as a power centre by virtue of Clive pushing back the Mughal armies which was done with a combination of sheer luck and European weapons and training. The EIC sepoys were basically an unmatched force until enough french mercenaries and engineers started teaching the Marathas etc. how to use the fire and file effectively

Capitalism is what brought the EIC to India, it's what splintered all the coalitions against them, it's what set the Jagat Seths at odds with the emperor, etc but what made all of it possible was force of arms

The sepoys themselves were a part of Indian power structures, and they outnumbered European soldiers from the start. Training was bunk in the early days, the EIC was perpetually frustrated with any sepoys recruited from the streets of company towns. Instead, they increasingly turned towards hiring sepoys from groups like country brahmins, who were already experienced as semi-regular soldiers and would spread the good word of EIC employment within their communities. The Brits didn't trust or respect them much, but they hired thousands of sepoys anyways so it wasn't just a privilege bestowed by the EIC.

You are grossly overstating the impact of technology on Indian colonization. Clive found a willing defector, and fought a timid Bengal army at Plassey, two things that better technology wouldn't fix. The reason for Bengal's weakness is simple, the new Nawab was a failson who didn't pay his soldiers reliably and also couldn't secure the loyalty of his powerful vassals before marching off to war. If you were a semi-professional soldier, like all Indian infantry, why would you die for this guy?

Clive's successes in Bengal inspired the Bombay Presidency to start the First Anglo-Maratha war. First is the important word here, they hadn't actually fought before, and the Marathas actually beat the EIC, with some effort, but not enough to stop them from going on to war with the Rajputs. War goes beyond weapons, and is highly situational, and quite random when its not industrial hellwar. The reason why the EIC could weather their militaries failures with less catastrophe is because their power was derived from the economy, not honor or loyalty or nobless oblige, EIC employees were given salaries and dividends paid from EIC revenue, not large tracts of land for them to own as property. Before its military power was real, the EIC was generating 10x the revenue of the Nawabs, and they had no idea how to replicate it.

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