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Defiance Industries posted:Or it makes Rasalhague the stupidest for thinking they could win against men the size of a car. The planet itself was undefended but a football coach thought they could win because he bet the Clans wouldn't know what football was. He didn't know about Da Bears!
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It might have been in the Battletech thread in Games or the maybe even the Discord, but I remember seeing something about a tabletop RPG being developed that was currently in beta. The last bit of info I was able to find was from last year, has there been any other news about it?
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Apr 16, 2020 17:19
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They released a 'beta' of it to Kickstarter supporters.
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Apr 16, 2020 17:22
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It's called MechWarrior: Destiny if that helps look it up.
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Awesome, thank you!
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Apr 16, 2020 18:36
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When you think about it, isn't MechWarrior basically a looter shooter???
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Apr 16, 2020 19:44
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looks like the reverse leg stalker is now the canon stalker. and its lookin' good
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Apr 18, 2020 23:17
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I just realized I never posted a picture of my Dragon's Fury lance. I'm really proud of that Locust's base!
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Apr 19, 2020 23:56
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Cross-posting, just for fun! In addition to the original  I've added a pair of  Someone lamented the lack of a tiny Major Bludd, so he (and tiny Cobra Commander) got HISS tanks of their own!   Just for size comparison:   And another shot of the whole squadron: 
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Apr 27, 2020 21:05
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Cutest little tanks 
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Apr 27, 2020 21:25
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Got my “Game of Armored Combat” box set today. How hard would it be to introduce the game to people that have never done any tabletop stuff ever with just that set? Going to be bringing it to a slow ambulance shift and my medic partner said he’d be down for a game but he’s never played so much as a game of D and D in the 80’s.
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May 1, 2020 18:52
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Got my “Game of Armored Combat” box set today. How hard would it be to introduce the game to people that have never done any tabletop stuff ever with just that set? Going to be bringing it to a slow ambulance shift and my medic partner said he’d be down for a game but he’s never played so much as a game of D and D in the 80’s. If you understand the rules then that helps a massive amount. I have been trying to figure this out for 6 months on my own and I don't know that I know how to play correctly. Having someone who can explain it would help a lot.
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May 1, 2020 19:10
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I said come in! posted:If you understand the rules then that helps a massive amount. I have been trying to figure this out for 6 months on my own and I don't know that I know how to play correctly. Having someone who can explain it would help a lot. Do you have MegaMek?
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May 1, 2020 22:48
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Yeah, I'm certain many of us on the thread would be willing to run you through them
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May 1, 2020 23:37
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DrPop posted:Do you have MegaMek? Yes, but I haven't really had a chance to go through it and figure it out. Lackloss posted:Yeah, I'm certain many of us on the thread would be willing to run you through them Would like this a lot.
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May 1, 2020 23:47
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Got my “Game of Armored Combat” box set today. How hard would it be to introduce the game to people that have never done any tabletop stuff ever with just that set? Going to be bringing it to a slow ambulance shift and my medic partner said he’d be down for a game but he’s never played so much as a game of D and D in the 80’s. The heart of the game is pretty simple--2D6 plus consult charts--so yeah, I think it would be easy to teach with the base set. And the D&D relevance is pretty much zero: it's a sci-fi themed board game that happened to have a bunch of RPG stuff tacked on afterwards, so a lack there isn't harming anything. I'd be more than happy to help you out. As I wrote the rulebook for that box, you'd give me the opportunity to see where I failed, and it might help being able to yell at the person responsible for any misery. Might even improve future printings. Xotl fucked around with this message at 06:24 on May 2, 2020 |
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May 2, 2020 01:54
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Xotl posted:it's a sci-fi themed board game that happened to have a bunch of RPG stuff tacked on afterwards, so a lack there isn't harming anything. I don't know if I'd say it's tacked on. It has a lot of the granularity you see in RPGs, and the rules like to make roleplaying a part of the solution to mechanical issues (Clantech, FM gear, MD advantages, iATMs...)
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May 2, 2020 06:06
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What's FM gear? And what kind of self-restraint do you have to exercise with iATMs - just not using them in a competitive/point balanced setting?
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General Battuta posted:What's FM gear? Gear from the Field Manuals, which was initially restricted only to specific factions. Beats actually testing the RAC+TC combo, right? General Battuta posted:And what kind of self-restraint do you have to exercise with iATMs - just not using them in a competitive/point balanced setting? iATMs are like the Nova CEWS. They're absolute horseshit but explained with "oh those are dishonorable Society tech, no Clan would EVER use those again." And then shuffled off into a region that they weren't planning on touching for at least another decade. Still outrageously broken gear, but you're not "supposed" to use them.
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Clantech is definitely not at a major advantage when it's actually balanced by something like BV. Neither are "FM Gear" which have all been pretty freely available for almost 15 years. Manei Domini and iATMs have way more room to complain on that front, but even so in at least MD's case the bigger problem was making them available to players at all instead of keeping the Word the designated NPC bad guys. I don't think that was ever really practical given BattleTech's player base but I'm pretty sure that was at least partially the reasoning. iATMs are definitely broken under BV, because they have the same BV as regular ATMs but are much better. NOVA, on the other hand, pays BV out the rear end for the privilege.
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May 2, 2020 18:32
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Strobe posted:Clantech is definitely not at a major advantage when it's actually balanced by something like BV. Yes, Clantech is the reason they've invented three different balancing systems. Because when they introduced it, they asked players to roleplay away the game imbalances, since Combat Value wouldn't be introduced for another three years. In summary, if you feel the need to tag gear with "only these guys use this and they would only use it in this way" maybe don't put it in the game in the first place
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May 2, 2020 18:52
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BattleTech is a game that can't be balanced without tearing it down to the foundation and building an entirely new game. Balance wasn't a consideration when it was first developed and balancing after the fact would require changing the numbers which has happened a grand total of no times in the game's history. As long all parties at the table are aware you're using something and everyone feels safe saying "No, I don't want to fight against your Turkina-Z tonight" then there aren't any problems. Play it for fun and play with all the toys you want to play with. Then again, I'm probably the only person on the entire internet whose favorite era is 3145, because it finally seems like the line developers are having fun with the setting again. 
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PoptartsNinja posted:BattleTech is a game that can't be balanced without tearing it down to the foundation and building an entirely new game. Balance wasn't a consideration when it was first developed and balancing after the fact would require changing the numbers which has happened a grand total of no times in the game's history. I wouldn't say "no" times. They've changed weapons before. Infernos; MGs vs. infantry. I don't know if they made record sheets out of TRO:3050 before retconning the fractional accounting, so I don't know if they've actually retconned record sheets, but they definitely changed several of those designs after their initial publication. That lost half-ton kind of ruined the elegance of the original Timber Wolf-A and -D in particular. There's the Clan "standard weapons" which were mentioned in TRO:3050 and then never seen. There are quad rules, which changed how existing designs worked. I agree that the modus operandi has always been tinkering around the edges, not making major changes, but it's not like there's zero precedent to change weapons or designs. (Put me in the "tear down and rebuild" camp, by the way. Lack of balance being just one reason.)
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They've done a number of changes including how AMS works, some of the additional modifiers that came out of the experimental rules into the main set of rules. The MASSIVE change to vehicle hits/crits, etc.. As Carbolic mentions quads got changed and the initial version of them still had the front legs following the arms rules for armor, leaving them oddly fragile.
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Defiance Industries posted:Yes, Clantech is the reason they've invented three different balancing systems. Because when they introduced it, they asked players to roleplay away the game imbalances, since Combat Value wouldn't be introduced for another three years. Sir it's 2020 you can stop living in 1989.
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Taerkar posted:They've done a number of changes including how AMS works, some of the additional modifiers that came out of the experimental rules into the main set of rules. The MASSIVE change to vehicle hits/crits, etc.. Oh yeah, I forgot AMS, that's probably the biggest example of completely changing how a piece of equipment works. I think they tinkered with things like ECM and how it affects Artemis, C3, etc. although that was always pretty technical. There's also flamers inflicting heat which used to be optional-only, and the changes to how effective weapons are against infantry. I'll concede that none of this fundamentally challenges PTN's point which is that truly fixing balance issues will require changes to the game on a scale which unfortunately there does not seem to be any taste for.
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Taerkar posted:They've done a number of changes including how AMS works, some of the additional modifiers that came out of the experimental rules into the main set of rules. The MASSIVE change to vehicle hits/crits, etc.. The biggest rule change was shifting the front firing arc back a hex. It's still a drop in the bucket necessary to make BattleTech a balanced, 'competitive' wargame. But you don't need balance to have fun, so that's always going to be my suggestion. Would it be better if the game was balanced? Sure. Do I mind having a few units that are broken enough I can use them as bosses in my Republic of the Sphere Paranoia/Alpha Strike game? Not at all.
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Carbolic posted:the changes to how effective weapons are against infantry. Making your men no longer walk single-file to
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Defiance Industries posted:I don't know if I'd say it's tacked on. It has a lot of the granularity you see in RPGs, and the rules like to make roleplaying a part of the solution to mechanical issues (Clantech, FM gear, MD advantages, iATMs...) Sure, but all that stuff came later. If you have a copy of the base box sets (which the new guy does), all that deeper lore-based stuff is floating around out there on the edges, but isn't relevant if you're just starting out. At its heart, it's board game. Its great strength is that it became more than that, but it doesn't have to be more than that to be enjoyed. You certainly don't need to be grounded in the RPG world to get into BT.
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I know the old starter box sculpt is doing it no favors, but I forgot how goofy the JagerMech looks. 
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:I know the old starter box sculpt is doing it no favors, but I forgot how goofy the JagerMech looks. At the very least, the sculpt makes it look under-armored.
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The sculpts may be bad, but assuming that was the box from like 5 years ago, it at least had the loving awesome foldable card maps. Probably the nicest maps I've ever used.
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the old box set minis get by on basically "quantity is a *kind* of quality" and giving you enough for two companies of units. like half of them look fine after some painting anyway.
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Is there anything new yet on the Phase 1 kickstarter sets ever actually shipping?
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I said come in! posted:Is there anything new yet on the Phase 1 kickstarter sets ever actually shipping? They're still on track for July after Covid shut down their factories.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Then again, I'm probably the only person on the entire internet whose favorite era is 3145, because it finally seems like the line developers are having fun with the setting again.  TBH i first enjoyed it because it seemed like with superheavies and drone mechs someone was trying to innovate the concept of a mech for the first time in 600 years... That and republics rule monarchies drool.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:They're still on track for July after Covid shut down their factories. Note that July was the month given from the factory to get something to CGL. As they also say in the same update, "once we get the product, we are at least another three weeks to deliver Wave 1." So August is the minimum unless something breaks in their favour.
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Hello friends, please click the link below and consider participating in my little charity event. We're all bored in lockdown right now so I thought we might be able to channel that into something a little more productive. I will be donating money to a food bank for every model completed in the next couple of months. All you have to do to participate is post pictures of your models though other options will be available for those who'd like to do more. It is somewhat focused on 28mm stuff, but there are other categories available and if your models aren't represented, just let me know and we can work something out. Full details in the thread, click the banner below to find out more: 
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I know this thread is mostly for the wargame/boardgame. But anyone have good pointers for a ruleset for running an RPG?
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The official ones are okay: MechWarrior 2nd edition is fun--breakable, but easily fixed in that regard, and reasonably popular with those willing to track down a cheap used copy. A Time of War (effectively 4th edition) is good only if you like crunch and can stand its lack of layout polish (seriously, while the rules themselves are fine for what they intend to do, thanks to a beta and a second printing that added errata, the ordering of a lot of the material really reflects the rush job the book ultimately was); the general advice is use the second, much simpler version of character creation if you go for this one. But again, quite crunchy for many. There's a brand new official one in the works right now (and out in beta) called MechWarrior Destiny. It goes the complete opposite direction, towards a rules-light full narrative RPG. As that's not my thing at all, I can't really tell you anything about it (and besides, still beta). In terms of what else to adopt, I don't have any specific suggestions (okay, I know Hero works because I've run a Mechwarrior game with it for years, but this board really doesn't do older crunch). I'd suggest something that takes into account the basic human-only nature of the Battletech universe. That is, since your range of physical and mental possibilities is rooted firmly in the human, a game that assumes a wider range of power (and thus compresses the available stat and/or range to take into account this greater sweep of overall capability) may fail when being adapted to BT's comparatively narrow human ranges (e.g. giving you "strong human" and "weak human" as your two strength options). If I was to ever make another conversion, simple as it is I'd be tempted to try Star Wars D6, actually.... I see some conversions attempt to also emulate mech-scale combat. I say you do you, but there's already a perfectly good mech combat system that does that already, called Battletech, and a game that tries to model both the individual and the mech usually fails at at least one.
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