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precision posted:Another translated quote from the Ultimania says they actually are considering doing more frequent, but shorter, sequels I hope they adjust the price of the releases accordingly but who am I kidding, I'll pay whatever they ask
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Yeah, I would hope if they do that it'll be like, a $30 game every two years instead of a $60 every four
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May 4, 2020 15:28
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The real twist of the game is that we've been playing as Zack the whole time.
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May 4, 2020 15:58
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Rhonne posted:The real twist of the game is that we've been playing as Zack the whole time. thats cloud he's been playing as zack for years
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May 4, 2020 16:15
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A lunchbox fell from the plate and hit Zack in the head just as he was staggering into town and thinking about Clouds haircut. Awakening with explosive amnesia, his tattered psyche constructed a new persona as a carefree chocobo breeder and racer, and he wandered back out into the world to fulfill his totally lifelong ambition... A shitload of bird eugenics.
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May 4, 2020 16:37
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precision posted:Another translated quote from the Ultimania says they actually are considering doing more frequent, but shorter, sequels I just want it in three parts, just like the 3 discs. If possible. All these smaller episodes are not looking good because how can I go back and revisit the previous areas?
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Given how much of the team has talked about wanting to maintain that feeling of the world opening up after you leave Midgar, I don't think they're necessarily going to settle on "more frequent, smaller releases" because there's no way they could really accomplish that. That might be Nomura's preference, or at least it was at the time of the interview, but we don't really know what the rest of the leads think or what they're actually going to do. Personally I'm still hoping it'll be three parts, maybe four at the absolute most. If it's three parts and the next two take like four years each, but they're longer, have lots of open areas to explore, and cover significant parts of the original story (with some additions, most likely), that'd be perfectly fine with me.
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May 4, 2020 16:58
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Harrow brought this up one of the last times that quote was mentioned, but I really hope they keep the next few games to a minimum. I don't want it to turn into video game Marvel movies, where there are like a dozen of them and eventually I stopped watching cause I got tired. Actually, thinking about it, the same drat thing has happened to Kingdom Hearts, where there was like ten games until they decided to just cut two of the games in the collections and make them movie cutscenes instead.
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The thought of this not being finished a decade from now is loving bleak, but it's definitely possible.
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May 4, 2020 17:10
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I'm hoping the Zack stuff is just them showing the opportunities presented by the ending, and they release DLC "what if" scenarios that allow them to reuse environments in each installment, telling a parallel but optional story.
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If they go with more frequent smaller releases, the issue of gameplay progression comes up as well. I could foresee with, like, 3-4 big releases them just handwaving it away and resetting you back to blizzard/fire/thunder with each one, but if you get more granular than that... I am still leaning towards the possibility that smaller chapters could end up as DLC attached to a main game
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May 4, 2020 18:34
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Zack will save Aerith in his reality by getting stabbed and that will be how you "save" Aerith in the prime reality - by bringing that one over. You'll have saved Aerith but not the one that knows everybody/loves Cloud. What I think will probably happen is that Sephiroth will actually join the party this time around. And then he'll help them find an egg shaped materia. Then when clould and co get past the snowboarding section in the norther crater's summit, they'll use egg shaped "time activator" which will let them zip through time to the point where Aerith dies and swap her with it.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:If they go with more frequent smaller releases, the issue of gameplay progression comes up as well. I could foresee with, like, 3-4 big releases them just handwaving it away and resetting you back to blizzard/fire/thunder with each one, but if you get more granular than that... Yeah I think when it comes down to it, making a series of short JRPGs just won't feel satisfying. It's just not a genre that lends itself to that sort of structure.
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May 4, 2020 18:41
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all optional sidequests you have to go exploring for in the original are DLC now
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precision posted:Yeah, I would hope if they do that it'll be like, a $30 game every two years instead of a $60 every four That's only going to happen if the game won't sell otherwise, which  But By "smaller" I am more thinking he means roughly similar in length to this game, as opposed to much longer. At the pace this game has set out with it being a 30 hour game, the whole game could be 150 hours, meaning that the second and third in the trilogy , if it were kept to a trilogy, would have to be much longer than this game.
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Nail Rat posted:That's only going to happen if the game won't sell otherwise, which My hope is that future games won't have filler like the second sewer chapter or the tunnel to Wall Market. This time around they set themselves a hard limit in terms of content. They only had Midgar to play with and had to squeeze a full length game out of it. Assuming they don't do something stupid like end the second game in Junon they won't have that restriction and will be able to pace things a little better.
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personally I hope that they put in so much filler that the second game ends with you arriving at Junon
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Bleck posted:personally I hope that they put in so much filler that the second game ends with you arriving at Junon Second game is just the Kalm flashback for 40 hours
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Veib posted:Second game is just the Kalm flashback for 40 hours oh my god the second game can just be a remaKE OF CRISIS CORE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SYNYJec4lg&t=355s This is perphaps my favorite moment of the remake. It's just 10 seconds and it's super simple, yet also very powerful and works on a lot of levels. For the original, it reinforces the fact that Tifa never had any resentment towards Aerith (something AC failed to understand) For the remakes, it's an important moment for Aerith who is afraid of being left alone, and it's the first reaffirming push she gets towards challenging her fate that might eventually lead to her surviving. All of the character interactions in this game feel very organic when they could have easily accidentally slipped into fanservice-y and I just love it.
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lezard_valeth posted:(something AC failed to understand) friendly reminder that the movie was written by the same people who wrote the game
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Bleck posted:friendly reminder that the movie was written by the same people who wrote the game I know, maybe I expressed wrong and it would been more correct to say something they failed to continue to work upon? And even if AC was written by the same people, there is no denying that there has been some external pressure on the decision making regarding FF7 for a long while that caused certain characters like Cloud turning into a constipated emo and Aerith into the fairy godmother and that is not present on the remake so far at least. lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 19:37 on May 4, 2020 |
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May 4, 2020 19:33
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The same guy wrote and directed A New Hope and the prequels, creators don't necessarily understand their own works afterwards
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Veib posted:The same guy wrote and directed A New Hope and the prequels, creators don't necessarily understand their own works afterwards if you don't think the prequels are a direct thematic throughline through the originals then you probably don't actually get what the originals were about, but that's a thing for another thread
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RatHat posted:https://twitter.com/istanleyff7/status/1256417905786281990?s=20 Still concerned they're doing this by the seat of their pants, but that's a good sign. They can do something like how suikoden 3 split your parties for the first half of the game. Then the fun starts as the timelines comes together and hey it's zack and woah another cloud??
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Predicting now that Cloud’s mental break and subsequent reconstruction will somehow involve alternate timeline Cloud.
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It does make considerable sense that star wars prequel liking would correlate strongly with advent children liking
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Bleck posted:if you don't think the prequels are a direct thematic throughline through the originals then you probably don't actually get what the originals were about, but that's a thing for another thread Oh dear god its 2012 again.
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Bleck posted:friendly reminder that the movie was written by the same people who wrote the game They made it bad on purpose. As a joke!
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I honestly am worried by the combination of 1) them saying they don't have what they want to do fully mapped out, 2) that they are looking to online responses as they are developing, and 3) that so many people on those online platforms are taking multiverse / timeline fuckery as a given, often while yelling "Nomura!!!" Any one of those on their own would be nothing but together they could be a cascade
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I don't believe anything the developers say in interviews because they're probably full of poo poo and/or already know much more than they're willing to let on.
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No Mods No Masters posted:It does make considerable sense that star wars prequel liking would correlate strongly with advent children liking advent children is not a good movie but the most popular criticism of it is "the characters act differently than I expected them to based on my own [incorrect] perceptions of them" which is a stupid thing to think
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Advent Children is about as good as a movie sequel to FF7 could have been. It's not a concept with a lot of promise.
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cheetah7071 posted:Advent Children is about as good as a movie sequel to FF7 could have been. It's not a concept with a lot of promise. It features all of the characters throwing Cloud into the air one by one so that he can hit a massive dragon at mach speed with the power of friendship. It's the best.
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Honestly Advent Children was worth it just for the gag with Rude's ringtone He has the same ringtone in 7R
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May 4, 2020 20:22
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The reasoning for most people who are upset over the ending pretty much boils down to "Square lied and I want my money back", which is dumb as gently caress. Yes and she's fuckin great
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