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Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
"What a country!" has never had more meaning.

Wilbur Swain fucked around with this message at 21:52 on May 4, 2020

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Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Dubar posted:

Was gonna make a comment before you edited your post but the fact that John Kerry was so forgettable really highlights the failures of democratic leadership

Dietrich posted:

John Kerry.

Whoops.

I dun hosed that one up.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1257389793123631104

gazza
Oct 20, 2013
The gross pining for George W Bush that lots of media liberals love doing is really making me look forward to their inevitable romanticization of Trump in a few years

Sarcastr0
May 29, 2013

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES ?!?!?
So how do people think this Chinese scapegoating ends? So far no one has taken much notice, even as Pompeo as much as says China designed the rona. But the GOP has rallied around and are making noises about how once we re-open there needs to be consequences for China, harrump harrumph.

Trade war? Ending visa for Chinese students? A big terrorist act against Asian-Americans?

Ika
Dec 30, 2004
Pure insanity

Cue the inevitable "I never thought I would catch it" posts in a week.

Setset
Apr 14, 2012
Grimey Drawer

Protesting the thing you don't want by doing the thing that causes the thing. 5 letters

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost
It’s amazing how little of a gently caress these people give about anything other than being aggrieved.

graynull
Dec 2, 2005

Did I misread all the signs?

"Reopen the economy and trust citizens to social distance and take precautions!", says clustered group of abject loving morons.

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.
https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1257395806602223616?s=20

Oh dear, is this actually what they think will happen?

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

Sarcastr0 posted:

So how do people think this Chinese scapegoating ends?
they pay trump to stop

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

Sarcastr0 posted:

So how do people think this Chinese scapegoating ends? So far no one has taken much notice, even as Pompeo as much as says China designed the rona. But the GOP has rallied around and are making noises about how once we re-open there needs to be consequences for China, harrump harrumph.

Trade war? Ending visa for Chinese students? A big terrorist act against Asian-Americans?

My guess is if they really go down this conspiracy rabbit hole and cook up the intelligence to support (like Iraq WMDs) then they will demand financial compensation. Like something big like hundreds of billions or even trillions big. Which obviously isn't going to happen. Then we might decide to recognize Taiwan as an independent state, and establish real diplomatic links and an embassy with them. Also we might start actively assisting Hong Kong dissidents. I mean there's a million ways we can to after China but I think none of them will end well and can get us dangerously close to war.

Bizarro Watt
May 30, 2010

My responsibility is to follow the Scriptures which call upon us to occupy the land until Jesus returns.

TVs Ian posted:

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1257395806602223616?s=20

Oh dear, is this actually what they think will happen?

lol they overfitted to a 3rd order polynomial and called it a day.

The Super-Id
Nov 9, 2005

"You know it's what you really want."


Grimey Drawer

TVs Ian posted:

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1257395806602223616?s=20

Oh dear, is this actually what they think will happen?

No it's just the lies they've decided on telling. It'll change to the next lie before long.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Bizarro Watt posted:

lol they overfitted to a 3rd order polynomial and called it a day.

If you do 5th order we go negative and cancel out all the deaths that happen by June

Then in November we have more deaths than atoms in the universe

Ershalim
Sep 22, 2008
Clever Betty

Devor posted:

If you do 5th order we go negative and cancel out all the deaths that happen by June

Then in November we have more deaths than atoms in the universe

The simplest answer is to go trigonometric and simply have asymptotic deaths, that way we can ignore them because they obviously don't exist.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

TVs Ian posted:

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1257395806602223616?s=20

Oh dear, is this actually what they think will happen?

They didn't like the numbers the IHME model was producing, so they had Ken Hassett (of "Dow 36,000" fame) to cock up a model that gave them numbers they liked.

Hassett knows nothing about epidemiology and almost nothing about economics. The perfect Trump lackey.

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

Tae posted:

The fact that this was even possible in the first place is the hosed up part

Exactly. Same with Shake Shack. This whole, "Oops, we're giving back the money we accidentally tried to grab because the media caught us!" PR poo poo is bullshit.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

TVs Ian posted:

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1257395806602223616?s=20

Oh dear, is this actually what they think will happen?

its because they are sociopathic morons trying to write check they cant cash, in this case but the worst model and hope it happens.

https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1257415007547072513


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-is-really-aiming-to-take-down-fox

speaking of dumb ideas. trumps trying to kill Fox news now and have his own Der Stürmer. that seems like a stupid move, trying to piss off murdoc and co during an election season.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

DreamingofRoses posted:

It’s amazing how little of a gently caress these people give about anything other than being aggrieved.

there is no force more powerful in politics than spite

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Charliegrs posted:

My guess is if they really go down this conspiracy rabbit hole and cook up the intelligence to support (like Iraq WMDs) then they will demand financial compensation. Like something big like hundreds of billions or even trillions big. Which obviously isn't going to happen. Then we might decide to recognize Taiwan as an independent state, and establish real diplomatic links and an embassy with them. Also we might start actively assisting Hong Kong dissidents. I mean there's a million ways we can to after China but I think none of them will end well and can get us dangerously close to war.

I think you're assuming way too much competence. It'll be something ridiculously stupid, like tariffs on something that hasn't been taxed yet (because he thinks China pays the tariffs) or something really dumb like pushing for a bill to let citizens sue China directly. Or if we do one of the above, it'll be some twisted hellworld version of it. Who's the Guaidó equivalent in Hong Kong or Taiwan?

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

its because they are sociopathic morons trying to write check they cant cash, in this case but the worst model and hope it happens.

https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1257415007547072513


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-is-really-aiming-to-take-down-fox

speaking of dumb ideas. trumps trying to kill Fox news now and have his own Der Stürmer. that seems like a stupid move, trying to piss off murdoc and co during an election season.

Proceed.

Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001

TVs Ian posted:

https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/1257395806602223616?s=20

Oh dear, is this actually what they think will happen?

lol I wouldn't even trust the White House Council of Economic Advisors with an economics model

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Dapper_Swindler posted:

its because they are sociopathic morons trying to write check they cant cash, in this case but the worst model and hope it happens.

https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1257415007547072513


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-is-really-aiming-to-take-down-fox

speaking of dumb ideas. trumps trying to kill Fox news now and have his own Der Stürmer. that seems like a stupid move, trying to piss off murdoc and co during an election season.

This is the death Fox deserves.

Manager Hoyden
Mar 5, 2020

Sarcastr0 posted:

Ending visa for Chinese students?

I hope an adult in the room can warn Trump that cutting off revenue from international students would sink a bunch of universities.

Or maybe not, he'd probably see that as a good thing.

Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001

The CEA is a straight up propaganda outfit

https://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/

As Job Creation Exceeds Expectations Again, Women Workers See Further Gains

The Trump Economy Benefits Historically-Disadvantaged Americans

The ‘Trump Bump’ Is Real

Job Market Continues to Crush Expectations in 2020

The Blue-Collar Labor Boom Reduces Inequality

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Uncle Wemus posted:

This is the death Fox deserves.

It's like nobody ever pays attention to how Trump shits the most on the people that fawn over him the hardest.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Uncle Wemus posted:

This is the death Fox deserves.

yeah. trump going through with this is gonna gently caress him hard probably. he really just makes the dumbest choices in the most self harming ways.

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

OANN I think is Trumps new favorite though he still takes his marching orders from Fox and Friends/ Hannity.

rko
Jul 12, 2017
E: I’ll never get over my boss telling me he just wants a news channel that “reads what happened that day” and then recommended OANN as that channel.

Also it’s so close to “ONAN” that I suspect we’re in the David Foster Wallace dystopia, up to and including the part where DFW turned out to be a piece of poo poo too. Hellworld never stops.

DreamingofRoses posted:

It’s amazing how little of a gently caress these people give about anything other than being aggrieved.

That describes the vast majority of US politics. Both parties campaign entirely on negative partisanship and lies, and most of the political media we consume is about hating our political enemies (and a lot of the non-explicitly-political media too). And because the stakes are so incredibly high, a lot of us feel extremely righteous about said grievances, as one can see from reading any page of this thread.

These people are just also extremely stupid, but the other side of the aisle is burning down one of the few major victories of modern feminism for Joe Biden’s sake, so. Not a lot of brains to go around these days.

rko fucked around with this message at 23:50 on May 4, 2020

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Dapper_Swindler posted:

its because they are sociopathic morons trying to write check they cant cash, in this case but the worst model and hope it happens.

https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1257415007547072513


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-is-really-aiming-to-take-down-fox

speaking of dumb ideas. trumps trying to kill Fox news now and have his own Der Stürmer. that seems like a stupid move, trying to piss off murdoc and co during an election season.
OANN is a joke and it's full of people who actually drink the Kool-Aid. At least with Fox there is a degree of understanding that they are giving propaganda to the right-wing masses and to not get too into it. Although at times some of their people touch the poop.

OANN is also an extremely tiny network compared to the reach of Fox.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah. trump going through with this is gonna gently caress him hard probably. he really just makes the dumbest choices in the most self harming ways.

I was gonna say it's like Vader killing Palpatine because its may 4 but that isnt very kind to Vader

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Dapper_Swindler posted:

https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1257415007547072513

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-is-really-aiming-to-take-down-fox

speaking of dumb ideas. trumps trying to kill Fox news now and have his own Der Stürmer. that seems like a stupid move, trying to piss off murdoc and co during an election season.

of everything i expected to happen today, the potential for the trump administration to have a redeeming factor is definitely not one of them

eat each other, you fascist fucks

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

FlamingLiberal posted:


OANN is also an extremely tiny network compared to the reach of Fox.

That unfortunately is changing probably largely thanks to Trump. I noticed the other day its on my cable lineup (yes I plan on cutting) and it definitely was not there before.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Uncle Wemus posted:

I was gonna say it's like Vader killing Palpatine because its may 4 but that isnt very kind to Vader

if we are going down this route. its kinda like kylo killing snoke and than hoping everything works out even though the brains of the operation is a couple pieces. least til that got retconed.


FlamingLiberal posted:

OANN is a joke and it's full of people who actually drink the Kool-Aid. At least with Fox there is a degree of understanding that they are giving propaganda to the right-wing masses and to not get too into it. Although at times some of their people touch the poop.

OANN is also an extremely tiny network compared to the reach of Fox.

yeah but trump wants to start his own propaganda network now i guess. it wont go anywhere or maybe it will but loving lol. let them fight.

Slowpoke!
Feb 12, 2008

ANIME IS FOR ADULTS
Trump might be angling to purchase OANN and damaging Fox News so he can bite off a portion of their base would work in his favor. He is insane if he thinks he should do this just prior to the election, though.

Ershalim
Sep 22, 2008
Clever Betty
The handover of annointed fuckbags from FOX to ONAN is probably an early mirror of what will go down once Trump loses or dies. There's too much money and influence to be had in a reality where objective facts are irrelevant, so someone will stoke that fire. Grift doesn't have a name, only a PO box.

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

Lube banjo posted:

Protesting the thing you don't want by doing the thing that causes the thing. 5 letters

"Stupid"

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
:lol:

https://twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1257441067730862080

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Fox News is more likely to damage Trump than the other way around. Not that they can destroy the monster but they can easily tear at his margins which would doom him if he isn’t already.

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