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Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
lol the Trump admin were thinking of the A-Team when they hired the characters from Tropic Thunder.

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bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Someone could quote that old Navy Seal copypasta and Trump would immediately try and put that person in the administration

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
Really, if you've got the time definitely read up on the Bayou of Pigs/Operation Red Dog listed above. If you don't hate The Dollop, they covered it too https://soundcloud.com/the-dollop/136-bayou-of-pigs. A dozen or so white supremacists, Soldier of Fortune subscribers and I think one literal mall cop thought that they could walk in and take over Dominica. They got a contract from the exiled, former leader and did one of the dumbest plans possible while being heavily infiltrated by the ATF. Also Ron Paul probably threw money at them to help.

The parallels are amazing.

The only real question is whether the State Department really had a hand in the current mess, or if they just heard about it and assumed it was being done well. Their poor equipment and resources would seem to indicate they didn't actually work with anyone in the CIA or State, since they've definitely got money to throw around. But these are really stupid times.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Jarmak posted:

Green Beret = Special Forces != Delta Force (just to be pedantic)

You're correct but war on terror led to all teams doing direct action rotations in Iraq/Afghanistan and a heavy need for bodies, not sure how much is changed in the last 5 years but there was a issue with consistent quality. Also how consistently they lived up to their stated values is always an open question given some of the scandals over the years.

I've met/worked with GBs that are exactly the pros their reputation describes: more thoughtful and focused on non-kinetic solutions and working with locals. I've also worked with some who were loving psychotic and thought the only thing between us and the world being a better place were the people stopping them from pulling triggers.


That is the traditional special forces mission-set, that's not weird at all.

yeah they used to be regionally assigned before the war on terror upended that (as you said) and would be learning pertinent languages basically the entire time. I was surprised because they were the only military I ever ran into who routinely had any decent second or third language ability. Occasionally sigint people, but those people were really out there relative to their branches.

Bubbacub posted:

Not sure how much bigger the units have gotten, but it seems like ex-operators did a pretty good job of keeping their mouths shut pre-GWT. Now it's a mix of normal guys and self-aggrandizing blowhards who try to cash in on book deals, clothing lines, and PMC poo poo.

they've always been full of dumbasses with poor impulse control, they just had some very much not-idiots, too. Supposedly they shifted recruitment standards a bunch like 15 years ago when they thought the antisocial personality traits might correspond to less chances to develop ptsd, but i could be misremembering. I haven't talked to anyone in the line of work in years.

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 18:55 on May 5, 2020

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

these guys thought they would be the loving movie action men.


Parakeet vs. Phone posted:

Really, if you've got the time definitely read up on the Bayou of Pigs/Operation Red Dog listed above. If you don't hate The Dollop, they covered it too https://soundcloud.com/the-dollop/136-bayou-of-pigs. A dozen or so white supremacists, Soldier of Fortune subscribers and I think one literal mall cop thought that they could walk in and take over Dominica. They got a contract from the exiled, former leader and did one of the dumbest plans possible while being heavily infiltrated by the ATF. Also Ron Paul probably threw money at them to help.

The parallels are amazing.

The only real question is whether the State Department really had a hand in the current mess, or if they just heard about it and assumed it was being done well. Their poor equipment and resources would seem to indicate they didn't actually work with anyone in the CIA or State, since they've definitely got money to throw around. But these are really stupid times.

i think pompeo probably knew and thought they would just handle it with some vague promises of backing.

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

evilweasel posted:

how did you not quote the best part:


i saw people joking about hiring airsoft mercs but uh...

It's so incompetent you'd think it was a false flag, if not for it seeming like Pompeo and Bolton knew about it. And everything else.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

bobjr posted:

Someone could quote that old Navy Seal copypasta and Trump would immediately try and put that person in the administration

hell they'd be secretary of the navy within a week

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

evilweasel posted:

personally i love that everyone else is labeled "tests performed" or "people tested" and our line is labeled "inconsistent units"

They've included loyalty tests to boost the US numbers.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
this tweet just hosed me up

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1257725719469158401?s=20

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




:lol: no loving way

Really?! :psyboom:

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

'best taco bowls' and it's a bunch of brown slop with an excessive glob of sour cream, no greens, even if just for color, and shredded cheddar out of a big frozen bag

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:


I took 4D6 psychic damage by viewing this.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




"Remember how openly racist I am? You might have forgotten as I am I currently in the process of killing a bunch of people so I can go golfing, but I'm really racist. Are you triggered, libs?"

Dielectric
May 3, 2010
Cinco de Mayo is pretty perfect for Trump. It's the day the Mexican government fought off its creditors trying to collect on some debt. He probably sees himself barricaded in Trump Tower, fighting off a bunch of lawyers from Deutsche Bank. In reality it's the contractors he stiffed at Mar-a-Lago and his casinos.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Dielectric posted:

Cinco de Mayo is pretty perfect for Trump. It's the day the Mexican government fought off its creditors trying to collect on some debt. He probably sees himself barricaded in Trump Tower, fighting off a bunch of lawyers from Deutsche Bank. In reality it's the contractors he stiffed at Mar-a-Lago and his casinos.

Trump has absolutely no idea what Cinco de Mayo is about.

Promoted Pawn
Jun 8, 2005

oops


Herstory Begins Now posted:

'best taco bowls' and it's a bunch of brown slop with an excessive glob of sour cream, no greens, even if just for color, and shredded cheddar out of a big frozen bag

The dude likes his dry aged steak cooked well done and smothered in ketchup, is the fact that his “best taco bowl” looks like it came straight from Taco Bell really that surprising

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Dielectric posted:

Cinco de Mayo is pretty perfect for Trump. It's the day the Mexican government fought off its creditors trying to collect on some debt. He probably sees himself barricaded in Trump Tower, fighting off a bunch of lawyers from Deutsche Bank. In reality it's the contractors he stiffed at Mar-a-Lago and his casinos.

50 or so years of loving over contractors by not paying them and then counter-suing them into oblivion because they can't cover legal fees has so far not slowed Trump down.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1257730562963288064

This will not go over like he hopes it will.

Kale
May 14, 2010


He can never not be weird as loving poo poo about literally anything. All this performative stuff that twitter and being very online like Trump represent is starting to make a good chunk of humanity appear completely unrelatable to me. Like what are these people honestly doing? What are we doing as a society? All you really have to do if you want to is just say happy Cinco De Mayo and then maybe people say it back to you and you go about your daily loving business assuming you actually have any, which apparently a lot of these people including the President do not. Like you don't have to be weird as loving poo poo about it by adding how much you claim to "love Hispanics" or Taco Bowls or whatever weird racist poo poo is going on here. It's not just him, though he's about as good a public example as you'll find since he's loud and constant about it, it's all people who have taken up this performative political statement making approach to daily twitter and social media posting where you can't just acknowledge something and leave it at that without having to make it loving weird and uncomfortable for a lot of people.

This is before we even get to the extra mile of "Hey remember when I made this one tweet that was called out as pretty loving racist?" Honestly I really do think now the guy is just bored and desperately trying to bait the media into something he can pivot into an even longer term grievance thing for his 2020 Campaign when they inevitably have to comment on it at length. Like it's just been one really extra lovely tweet after another for about 3 weeks now. It's not normally QUITE this bleating and constant.

I will forever associate Trump and all of this performative "politics" nonsense in society these days very closely with Twitter and social media platforms in general, but especially Twitter with Trump essentially having been allowed to become the face of it to me.....so great business approach and angle there I guess Jack Dorsey. :shrug:

Kale fucked around with this message at 19:25 on May 5, 2020

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Herstory Begins Now posted:

they've always been full of dumbasses with poor impulse control, they just had some very much not-idiots, too. Supposedly they shifted recruitment standards a bunch like 15 years ago when they thought the antisocial personality traits might correspond to less chances to develop ptsd, but i could be misremembering. I haven't talked to anyone in the line of work in years.

I'm not sure about the anti-social tendencies stuff but they cut standards pretty hard because they were getting sandwiched hard between being over-tasked and having a high attrition rate. That's when they did poo poo like restarting the 18x program (enlist directly into SF). Also the focus on the GWOT meant they were focused on the door-kicking skillset and a lot of the skills that 18-series are supposed to be known for got the "check the box treatment". I know they started doing poo poo like dumbing down the language training in order to increase the graduation rate.

It should be noted this had an ugly cycle aspect because they 18x guys were getting smoked at a depressing rate because they were basically throwing green troops into jobs that were supposed to be held by the best of the best of the seasoned vets.

That said one of the guys I go to school with went in as an x-ray and he's like goddamn Cpt. America, super professional, and is fluent in like 5 languages so it's all stochastic to some degree.

Jarmak fucked around with this message at 19:25 on May 5, 2020

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Kale posted:

I really do think now the guy is just bored and desperately trying to bait the media into something he can pivot into an even longer term grievance thing for his 2020 Campaign when they inevitably have to comment on it at length.

Ding ding ding!

Trump has had absolutely no successes in office beyond triggering libs, but he's been immensely successful at that one thing, so his entire highlight reel as candidate and president is "remember when I made the staff of MSNBC furious with me?"

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Ok so they are just done pretending like they are going to keep responding to this huh

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

yeah. he is bored and angry and wants to declare victory.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1257736426206031874


Civilized Fishbot posted:

Ding ding ding!

Trump has had absolutely no successes in office beyond triggering libs, but he's been immensely successful at that one thing, so his entire highlight reel as candidate and president is "remember when I made the staff of MSNBC furious with me?"

yeah but no one likes that outside the moron base and trump is currently burning/has burned almost every other bridge to other sectors/communties/demos.

Rassle
Dec 4, 2011

Cawadoody: Blak Oops Fail

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah. he is bored and angry and wants to declare victory.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1257736426206031874


yeah but no one likes that outside the moron base and trump is currently burning/has burned almost every other bridge to other sectors/communties/demos.

My understanding is that Trump burned his bridges to sectors/communities/demos outside the moron base by the late 90s at the absolute latest.

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/AshleyRParker/status/1257708017069539328

https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1257651946871230464

https://twitter.com/stevennelson10/status/1257727749952806918

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1257671268838641667

https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1257708274583027714

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Civilized Fishbot posted:

My understanding is that Trump burned his bridges to sectors/communities/demos outside the moron base by the late 90s at the absolute latest.

true but now with a loving plague thats killed more than vietnam plus more and a historically unpopular incumbent election.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



https://twitter.com/andraydomise/status/1257736283969007617?s=21

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

yeah this was pompeo doing getting grifted by the cheapest idiots and that grifting them too.

Inglonias
Mar 7, 2013

I WILL PUT THIS FLAG ON FREAKING EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT IS SYMBOLIC AS HELL SOMEHOW

it's like a slow motion train wreck that i am on. on one hand, I can't stop reading about all this, and on the other hand, it's really really bad for my health.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Well I hope that Jordan guy got his receipts on DoS or those guys are dead.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Inglonias posted:

it's like a slow motion train wreck that i am on. on one hand, I can't stop reading about all this, and on the other hand, it's really really bad for my health.

everything is right now is a slow motion train wreck right now. foreign policy, the plague, domestic, etc. thanks trump.

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



https://twitter.com/matt_barnum/status/1257657082939158528

https://twitter.com/pareene/status/1257716189566046208

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


I hope Trump is in the WH situation room right now, fuckin' apoplectic and screaming at Pompeo.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
So Trump is now calling for states to abolish capital gains tax to maybe get federal aid.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004


the only good thing about that tweet is that every time i see it i get super hungry

Kale
May 14, 2010

KillHour posted:

I hope Trump is in the WH situation room right now, fuckin' apoplectic and screaming at Pompeo.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/politics/rick-bright-complaint/index.html

Depends who let him down hardest but my guess is he isnt done tweeting and baiting the media just yet. Also have to wait for Fox or OANN to package the story to him or he probably doesnt know about either yet

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

So Trump is now calling for states to abolish capital gains tax to maybe get federal aid.

he is so desperate to nakedly mafia this poo poo.


KillHour posted:

I hope Trump is in the WH situation room right now, fuckin' apoplectic and screaming at Pompeo.

he might be. i can wait for the tweets. hosed up thing is he probably wasnt told about it for various reasons.

https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1257695687334133761

lol, he doesnt give a poo poo.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1257743267875217412

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Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001

https://twitter.com/cherylrofer/status/1257733345405853696?s=21

Holy poo poo, I know undergrads who are better at math than these clowns

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