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thotsky posted:"Oh, he was always gonna endorse; Bernie is just too nice" is such a dogshit take tho. He's ostensibly fighting to save thousands and thousands of lives, correct grave injustices, and according to the Chapos themselves, possibly help avert the apocalypse, but he can't bring himself to go hard against his political enemies because he enjoys having lunch with them or whatever? What does that say about his priorities, the strength of his conviction, or if that cannot be questioned, his adherence to succdem notions of polite discourse? The Chapos allowing that to just slide does not strike you as odd? I can understand holding back while the race is on for strategic reasons, even if I don't condone it, but once he gave up they should have been on that poo poo. bernie sanders is a democratic politician who was participating in the democratic primary process. if you feel betrayed that he ultimately respected the democratic primary process as opposed to denouncing electoralism or whatever, that's solely on you and not the failing of some podcast
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thotsky posted:Chapo should self-crit about going all in on Bernie in the way that they did. I don't think they demonized the left, but they sure helped demoralize it in the long run. Maybe it would have felt different if he had won, but with the disappointing way he lost it becomes hard not to see the campaging, criticism-free coverage and hype as somehow betraying the original concept of the show. thotsky posted:I don't disagree, it was the move that made sense politically / morally, but it still hosed the show. thotsky posted:Firstly, an attempt to square their pre-primary insistence that the show is not activism, and just them screwing around with their engagement and largely uncritical coverage of the Bernie campaign. It was cool and good what they did, and shows do change, but I'm not entirely sure what that means for the show going forward. thotsky posted:Even if, going forward, it turns out that Chapo content will be virtually indistinguishable from what it was like in say, 2018, which I'm sure most of the "hogs" would be happy with, that's actually kind of a horrible Lib view of the future in its own right. They aimed really high and fell short. That "return to normalcy" is such a sad thing to wish for. ![]()
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Not all posting has to be great posting but thotsky you dumb moron, how can you be so goddamned stupid? The failure of the Bernie campaign is one thing but it literally follows on the beginning of a global pandemic and a general collapse and test of american society that is playing out in real time, right now, as we're posting. We have no loving idea what is even going on or what is coming. What the gently caress is anyone supposed to say right now, beyond maybe electoralism is basically dead in front of us? That specific information doesn't suddenly give you a new game plan. If you're so concerned with what Chapo should be saying about all this why in the hell do you imagine that should actually even be? Are you waiting for them to tear into Bernie like that means something or will drop some amazing new perspective on the masses? That poo poo is just going to be a hot air retread of "I told u electoralism is a waste of time bro" which is demoralizing and not funny or unique enough to warrant shoehorning into an episode beyond the what happened show the already did. Anyone suggesting anything specific that we should do right now is wrong, because if it was actually useful information it wouldn't be allowed on this forum and would be extremely stupid to blare out on insecure channels like perhaps the most public left facing podcast in the country. That's where we are. We're in the poo poo and biding time. Chapo isn't in a position to say anything more specific beyond making jokes and providing snarky commentary about current events because any ideas or opinions that seriously matter cannot be said on open channels if you don't want to risk your head stuffed in a black bag you dumb bitch. If you want to take "being more tankie" seriously maybe you should shut the gently caress up about that on a public form, and not expect the chapo crew to risk martyring themselves over a comedy podcast just to get the word out that laws aren't real.
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BBJoey posted:bernie sanders is a democratic politician who was participating in the democratic primary process. if you feel betrayed that he ultimately respected the democratic primary process as opposed to denouncing electoralism or whatever, that's solely on you and not the failing of some podcast Even before the primary season started you had at least Amber and Matt saying essentially "warts and all, Bernie is the only choice" which was correct. He made no secret that he would endorse the nominee whomever it was. Like sure they could have dragged the guy for agreeing to do that anyway but everyone knew that this was a Hail Mary. Why wouldn't they go all in for him win voting started and, by all appearances, Biden was a paper tiger? Even after Bernie threw in the towel you had Amber saying "we'll probably revisit Bernie's and our shortcomings in the weeks and months ahead" or Matt saying "do not waste time and energy on presidential politics because we had our best shot at affecting it and we failed, time to change strategies."
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All the people in this thread being weirdly defensive about their dumb hot-takes podcast being criticized is very lolworthy to read.
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Lambert posted:All the people in this thread being weirdly defensive about their dumb hot-takes podcast is very lolworthy to read. Lambert posted:Hillary won. Gotcha before the edit. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 00:37 on May 6, 2020 |
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Lambert posted:All the people in this thread being weirdly defensive about their dumb hot-takes podcast being criticized is very lolworthy to read. Oh god not this loving guy again
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Crane Fist posted:Oh god not this loving guy again No one tell me to turn on my monitor!!!
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Lambert posted:All the people in this thread being weirdly defensive about their dumb hot-takes podcast being criticized is very lolworthy to read.
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I like when the podcast is funny and makes me laugh.
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The old Matt is dying, and the new Matt struggles to be born: now is the time of pillin' and grillin'.
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The_Rob posted:I like when the podcast is funny and makes me laugh. lib
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Also I like Amber and I like Felix and maybe it’s a hot take, but I like Matt too.
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Open chapo up!!
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https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1257816437588180996
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https://twitter.com/tom_on_here/status/1257811287934984196
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will, felix, and at least two FYMs are dunking on posts made in this very thread. I love may
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GoLambo posted:Not all posting has to be great posting but thotsky you dumb moron, how can you be so goddamned stupid? I get you, and it's not like I really expected a podcast to change all that's wrong with the world or anything. Like, a lot of people, when asked why they like Chapo, say it's because they give some sort of voice to their anger or disaffection or whatever. That was true for me as well, and I mostly feel like they're falling short of that at the moment; I'm not expecting a five-year-plan to topple the government or anything, and yeah, it's understandable if they're feeling pretty burned on putting their emotions and aspirations out in the public right now. It's just a bummer to go back to making fun of prestige TV like nothing happened. edit: damnit guys, this stuff was for Virgil's eyes only thotsky fucked around with this message at 01:31 on May 6, 2020 |
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thotsky posted:I get you, and it's not like I really expected a podcast to change all that's wrong with the world or anything. Like, a lot of people, when asked why they like Chapo, say it's because they give some sort of voice to their anger or disaffection or whatever. That was true for me as well, and I mostly feel like they're falling short of that at the moment; I'm not expecting a five-year-plan to topple the government or anything, and yeah, it's understandable if they're feeling pretty burned on putting their emotions and aspirations out in the public right now. It's just a bummer to go back to making fun of prestige TV like nothing happened. they're people like everyone else. it's okay to check out for a bit go learn some bushcraft or how to wire ied triggers or something else useful in the coming final confict
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i just skipped ten pages, are people still complaining about a podcast
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The Muppets On PCP posted:they're people like everyone else. it's okay to check out for a bit Maybe take some online courses https://twitter.com/trrvvb/status/1257759188597571592
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Big shoutout for thotsky for exposing his rear end online like this.
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With all this exposure I'm starting a patreon for podcast criticism.
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the FYM boys rule don't come at them you dorks
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Shipon posted:the FYM boys rule don't come at them you dorks Sorry dude the FYM stream is trash, it's nice of Felix to set up a charity for his boring friends but I'm not watching it
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thotsky posted:I get you, and it's not like I really expected a podcast to change all that's wrong with the world or anything. Like, a lot of people, when asked why they like Chapo, say it's because they give some sort of voice to their anger or disaffection or whatever. That was true for me as well, and I mostly feel like they're falling short of that at the moment; I'm not expecting a five-year-plan to topple the government or anything, and yeah, it's understandable if they're feeling pretty burned on putting their emotions and aspirations out in the public right now. It's just a bummer to go back to making fun of prestige TV like nothing happened.
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Crane Fist posted:Sorry dude the FYM stream is trash, it's nice of Felix to set up a charity for his boring friends but I'm not watching it Yeah the chapo gaming streams are utter snoozefests and nobody watches them, people only tune in for the Matt rants, special coverages, etc.
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FYM may be good at twitter but they're bad streamers
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Uranium posted:Didn’t you listen to their what-went-wrong episode? Isn’t Matt recording at least one hour each day about his evolving thoughts? What more do you want, an apology to you, personally? I did, it was boring and unsatisfying. I've not listened to most of the Matt stuff. The dialectic one was okay, at least the parts I can follow, definitely a departure from the formula, which I did state would be welcome. It is interesting to note that they did apologize in the "we're in the Zone now" episode way back when for some reason, and that's an all-time classic, but I'm sure people would jump at them if they came anywhere close to doing so what with the whole Bernie-bro bullshit. It's cool dude, you don't have to agree, I was just trying to sound out why the show has lost much of its appeal for me. Nobody needs come to the defense of the show, least of all the hosts. thotsky fucked around with this message at 02:06 on May 6, 2020 |
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i say swears online posted:will, felix, and at least two FYMs are dunking on posts made in this very thread. I love may Be our special correspondent because we aint watching that poo poo.
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(screaming brokenheartedly) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO https://twitter.com/eeberquist/status/1257791895855497216
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I hope that some day my posts are bad enough for Will to make fun of me tbh
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Did the sempais notice me tho
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Doctor Jeep posted:(screaming brokenheartedly) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Problematic faves
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it's painfully obvious from the reaction to matt's recent streaming a lot of nerds never dropped acid itt you only got one life to live but i guess you don't want to see the face of god and all his creation laid out for you and also feel real good
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Doctor Jeep posted:(screaming brokenheartedly) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO doesn't that mean he's Anderson Cooper's cousin?
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Percelus posted:it's painfully obvious from the reaction to matt's recent streaming a lot of nerds never dropped acid itt It can be good and enjoyable for you but that does not mean it makes for subjectively good content. We're not tripping out, we're parasocially babysitting our friend and listening to him ramble.
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T-man posted:It can be good and enjoyable for you but that does not mean it makes for subjectively good content. We're not tripping out, we're parasocially babysitting our friend and listening to him ramble. How are all of your posts and opinions so bad in the thread but so good on your YouTube channel, where you are Natalie Wynn of ContraPoints?
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Virgil gone?
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Chapo is fine but the fans should probably take a month or so off and figure out a new direction to go in
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