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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

ded posted:

Ok I want to learn something today. How is it that those guys who walk around carrying or have a rifle strapped to their chest not get at least cited for brandishing or carrying a weapon in a threatening manner? Going to a government building or the residence of a state governor and having a bunch of rifles is certainly not a lawful use of a firearm. At least in my uninformed opinion.

Most everywhere this is happening it’s entirely legal. Cops just have a tendency to decide incidental muzzle sweeps from weapons are felonies when the wrong person carries them.

It’s entirely legal to carry guns outside a home or into a government building in a lot of states/locales.

Brandishing laws vary a lot by state. But often slung or low ready or holstered does not meet definition of “brandished.” Especially when it’s 40 protesters with cameras and not two unobserved cops deciding a person totally brandished their wallet wrong.

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That Works
Jul 22, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

facialimpediment posted:

I somewhat disagree with the above posts - it's due to the dumbass open carry laws that make this poo poo not a crime. White people love cosplay penis extenders.

Where I agree - if black people did it, nobody else would do it anymore and the open carry laws would be repealed.

Even where open carry exists do you think that a group of black people with AR-15s are going to be allowed to walk right up to cops in the lobby of a state capitol (without being arrested / shot)?

I guess I'd have to believe that when I see it.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

facialimpediment posted:

I somewhat disagree with the above posts - it's due to the dumbass open carry laws that make this poo poo not a crime. White people love cosplay penis extenders.

Where I agree - if black people did it, nobody else would do it anymore and the open carry laws would be repealed.

No, if black people did it they'd be shot because they "appeared threatening" and white people would continue to be able to do as they pleased.
The Second Amendment is and always has been for white men only.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

That Works posted:

Even where open carry exists do you think that a group of black people with AR-15s are going to be allowed to walk right up to cops in the lobby of a state capitol (without being arrested / shot)?

I guess I'd have to believe that when I see it.

If literally surrounded by cameras, maybe.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



hobbesmaster posted:

If literally surrounded by cameras, maybe.

They’d still get arrested. The shooting would happen on the way from the capital to the police station.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Stultus Maximus posted:

No, if black people did it they'd be shot because they "appeared threatening" and white people would continue to be able to do as they pleased.
The Second Amendment is and always has been for white men only.

Yes. One of the most blatant examples of this: Ohio is an "open carry" state, yet Tamir Rice, a child, was murdered within seconds of police arriving on the scene, for holding a toy, not even a real firearm.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

Real weird coincidence how many gun laws passed in California right after the Black Panthers started protesting while armed

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

That Works posted:

Even where open carry exists do you think that a group of black people with AR-15s are going to be allowed to walk right up to cops in the lobby of a state capitol (without being arrested / shot)?

I guess I'd have to believe that when I see it.

Just that one time in 1967:
https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Yes. One of the most blatant examples of this: Ohio is an "open carry" state, yet Tamir Rice, a child, was murdered within seconds of police arriving on the scene, for holding a toy, not even a real firearm.

I was thinking John Crawford III, who was murdered the instant the police opened the door for the crime of carrying a toy gun in a store that sells toy guns. Also Ohio.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


one of the central tasks of police in the us is the production of white supremacy, most gun control laws are passed with the explicit intent of bolstering their ability to do this, but of course selective enforcement lets many laws serve that purpose

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Ohio has more confederate flags than Alabama. An incredibly lovely state full of the racist assholes with their almost canadian accents and bad euchre players.

Only person I'd ever known to cheat at euchre was from Ohio originally.

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

So the Venezuela thing just keeps getting more absurd the deeper you go.

https://twitter.com/3PSboyd/status/1257723363264360449

https://twitter.com/3PSboyd/status/1257733975788814337

quote:

When he was pressed by Poleo to explain why launching an amphibious operation across open waters instead of attempting to infiltrate via the border with Colombia, Goudreau replied:

Are you familiar with Alexander the Great? The Battle of Gaugamela. Completely outnumbered. He struck to the heart of the enemy, and he won.
lol

https://twitter.com/3PSboyd/status/1257734935575531521

https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/status/1257786917552377856

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
Both the going through with it after being exposed and the "having an absurd $200M contract from Juan Guaido" have me definitely suspecting that this was actually just Maduro hiring inept morons to give him the reason to execute a bunch of dissidents.

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.
This Venezuela coup thing is almost certainly the (somehow even dumber) American version of the attempted coup in Equatorial Guinea by Sanadline International.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

I thought republicans were against filibusters.

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Ohio has more confederate flags than Alabama. An incredibly lovely state full of the racist assholes with their almost canadian accents and bad euchre players.

Only person I'd ever known to cheat at euchre was from Ohio originally.

William Tecumseh Sherman is from Ohio. :colbert:

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 13 hours!
Ultra Carp

Flikken posted:

William Tecumseh Sherman is from Ohio. :colbert:

I mean I was born in Ohio but you don't see me bragging about it (because I don't talk about it (because Ohio is terrible))

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Flikken posted:

William Tecumseh Sherman is from Ohio. :colbert:

And look what he did trying to forget that fact

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

M_Gargantua posted:

Both the going through with it after being exposed and the "having an absurd $200M contract from Juan Guaido" have me definitely suspecting that this was actually just Maduro hiring inept morons to give him the reason to execute a bunch of dissidents.

Except for that Bellingcat article, yeah

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Relevant to recent events, if y'all haven't seen the movie Walker with Ed Harris it's pretty wild - a biopic of the most 'successful' filibuster William Walker, filmed on location in Nicuragua during the Contras War as a satire/indictment of US Latin American policy.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Acebuckeye13 posted:

My friend's got a Garand and we went shooting right before all this started shutting everything down. Such a fun gun to shoot.

Garand and the M1 Carbine are hands down the two most fun rifles to shoot IMHO.

Though I shot a Thompson at my bachelor party and all I'll say about that is that it was clearly designed to be efficient and fun.

Suicide Watch posted:


Haha one of the protestors has an SAS tattoo. But this is great, the crackping is coming on hard

Ooooooof.

I mean I made my email in high school based off a SAS thing I heard in Metal Gear Solid (Whodares) but that is some pure strain cringe right there.

Milo and POTUS posted:

Wait isn't SAS british
lol, yep.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

And look what he did trying to forget that fact

Brought justice to atlanta?

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Stravag posted:

Brought justice to atlanta?

Spent his post-war days aggressively killing and coercing American Indians.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Can people nominate individual photos for pulitzers

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Acebuckeye13 posted:

I mean I was born in Ohio but you don't see me bragging about it (because I don't talk about it (because Ohio is terrible))

Ohio has played a valuable role in inspiring people to get as far away from Ohio as possible by becoming astronauts. To date this has produced 25 astronauts, including Neil Armstrong, John Glenn, Judy Resnik, and Jim Lovell, who holds the world record for the furthest an Ohioan has ever gotten from Ohio, during the Apollo 13 mission.

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Ohio has played a valuable role in inspiring people to get as far away from Ohio as possible by becoming astronauts. To date this has produced 25 astronauts, including Neil Armstrong, John Glenn, Judy Resnik, and Jim Lovell, who holds the world record for the furthest an Ohioan has ever gotten from Ohio, during the Apollo 13 mission.

Don't forget heavier than air flight!

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Flikken posted:

Don't forget heavier than air flight!

Oh man, the slap fight between Ohio and North Carolina for the "birthplace of flight" title is loving hilarious.

That's how lovely Ohio is - they were able to invent airplanes, but had to go outside of Ohio in order to actually fly them.

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Oh man, the slap fight between Ohio and North Carolina for the "birthplace of flight" title is loving hilarious.

That's how lovely Ohio is - they were able to invent airplanes, but had to go outside of Ohio in order to actually fly them.

Real talk if you draw a line more or less northeast from Cincinnati to Cleveland you get the best parts of Ohio, everything northwest of that line is just corn, southeast is West Virginia lite.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

mlmp08 posted:

Spent his post-war days aggressively killing and coercing American Indians.

His pre-war days were full of running around California in the 1840s, I think.

Sherman didn't let Ohio define him, but he had a big chip on his shoulder just being born there. It inspired him to leave. It's not like Sherman sat on an Ohio porch with a british flag and a cup of tea (because Ohioans celebrates losers like the confederates) his whole life, pushing some narration of bullshit. He went out, killed a lot of people, became a national treasure for what he did to Georgia and making South Carolina piss itself. He then led the war college for a string of years later after the war. His medal of honor is suspect, but so were a lot back then.

Gotta admire the mans' tenacity, just for leaving Ohio. Imagine if he had stayed and the world never got to see his true gift at work.

He did some bad poo poo, but kicking confederates around really, really weighs heavily in his favor.

CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 04:05 on May 6, 2020

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

His pre-war days were full of running around California in the 1840s, I think.

Sherman didn't let Ohio define him, but he had a big chip on his shoulder just being born there. It inspired him to leave. It's not like Sherman sat on an Ohio porch with a british flag and a cup of tea (because Ohioans celebrates losers like the confederates) his whole life, pushing some narration of bullshit. He went out, killed a lot of people, became a national treasure for what he did to Georgia and making South Carolina piss itself. He then led the war college for a string of years later after the war. His medal of honor is suspect, but so were a lot back then.

Gotta admire the mans' tenacity, just for leaving Ohio. Imagine if he had stayed and the world never got to see his true gift at work.

Ok. General Uylesses S. Grant.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I got no beef with Grant. And I haven't read nearly as much about him. Sherman really interested me because mentioning his name in parts of the South is still akin to calling someones' mother the loosest woman in town. There's still some super loving butthurt people out there.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 13 hours!
Ultra Carp

Flikken posted:

Ok. General Ulysses S. Grant.

Another man who left Ohio as soon as he could and never returned :v:

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Flikken posted:

Real talk if you draw a line more or less northeast from Cincinnati to Cleveland you get the best parts of Ohio, everything northwest of that line is just corn, southeast is West Virginia lite.

Signs you're in the middle of nowhere: when you're on I-70W and see more than one exit that says in yellow-outlined letters "NO REENTRY TO INTERSTATE FROM THIS EXIT."

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Another man who left Ohio as soon as he could and never returned :v:

I've been trying to go back for 4 years :saddowns:

Granted I spent 3 years in Appalachia Pennsylvania and the last year in Missouri

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I get it. I'm from Illinois originally. Ever once in a great while I feel tempted to uproot and roll back east to somewhere familiar, comfortable, but no, it was rural Illinois and the distinct lack of mountains is not made up for by the rich, loamy, glacial tilled soil that can pump out corn and soybeans by the barge load. There's really nothing there to return to, besides towns riddled with meth and pills, farms that can't turn a profit, but I still get reminiscent for the place. Best to let those demons' calls go through to voicemail.



BIG HEADLINE posted:

Signs you're in the middle of nowhere: when you're on I-70W and see more than one exit that says in yellow-outlined letters "NO REENTRY TO INTERSTATE FROM THIS EXIT."

This is what I love about the west. loving miles of nobody around to interrupt the tinnitus.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 13 hours!
Ultra Carp

Flikken posted:

I've been trying to go back for 4 years :saddowns:

Granted I spent 3 years in Appalachia Pennsylvania and the last year in Missouri

you have my sympathies

(honestly obviously Ohio has both nice parts and terrible parts like any other state, and I hope you're able to move back home soon. I of course moved away when I was 2 and have spent most of my life growing up in Michigan, so I am contractually obligated to rag on you guys whenever the opportunity presents itself :v:)

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

hobbesmaster posted:

I thought republicans were against filibusters.

Just letting you know that this was appreciated.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1257814281330069504

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Acebuckeye13 posted:

you have my sympathies

(honestly obviously Ohio has both nice parts and terrible parts like any other state, and I hope you're able to move back home soon. I of course moved away when I was 2 and have spent most of my life growing up in Michigan, so I am contractually obligated to rag on you guys whenever the opportunity presents itself :v:)

Ohhhhhhh you grew up in that state up north.


Covid 19 put a huge wrench in my plans, my lease is up in July, my contractual agreement with my work ends this month.

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brains
May 12, 2004


was expecting a trump admin bay of piss moment, never expected it literally

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