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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:God I'm gonna have to learn how to paint black armour aren't I.... Painting black armour is easy as hell, highlighting it however …
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May 6, 2020 09:43
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:God I'm gonna have to learn how to paint black armour aren't I.... The trick is to not actually paint it fully black, more of a very very dark grey. Vince's got you covered as usual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOhHSwNqxS4
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May 6, 2020 09:54
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You can also watch this Darren Latham quickly before he deletes his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN6cFr7Xt_Y
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May 6, 2020 09:55
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Be careful watching people like Darren Latham, lest ye fall into the Vortex Of Endless Perfection. Remember to judge your work by your own standards, not someone else’s: paint five things, the fifth will look better than the first. Under no circumstances look at flameonminiatures on instagram, lest ye be blinded or cast down in despair.
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May 6, 2020 10:21
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That's why I like Vince Venturella, he gives you fast or detailed options and always tells you "It's okay to stop here. But if you want to go further, here are 50 more steps you could do. Feel free to stop at any of these."
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May 6, 2020 11:18
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Endman posted:I, too, enjoy Monster Energy(TM) how do you think they grow space marines
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:how do you think they grow space marines Actually they use The Emperor's Energy (TM) which is made from the blood of heretics. 
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May 6, 2020 14:14
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:so the Know no Fear box i splurged out on while a place was having a sale turned up, and I'm having to think of a paint scheme for the marines The Xbox marines are for sure more dramatic, but allow me to take what might be the unpopular opinion and say I prefer green and orange. Understand that this is entirely because those are my two favorite colors, so a scheme using both of them makes me go all heart-eyes, but i figured I’d at least weigh in with my completely biased opinion.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:so the Know no Fear box i splurged out on while a place was having a sale turned up, and I'm having to think of a paint scheme for the marines I really like both of these and feel there isn't a wrong option. Both schemes would make a cool kill team.
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May 6, 2020 16:43
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I feel like the green chest eagle pops really hard off the black armour in a way that the orange one just doesn’t off the green
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May 6, 2020 16:58
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Torquemada posted:Painting black armour is easy as hell, highlighting it however … Basically this. When I did my Deathwatch kill team painting the armor black was easy. It was then the highlights of all the edges that was hard. it turned out okay for tabletop and my first time doing black, but it has certainly turned me off from doing black armors for a while.
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May 6, 2020 17:30
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The orange and green would be my pick if you weren't using those tones of orange, or green. I feel like marines mostly need bold, over the top colours or effects. (raptors being a notable exception). So brick orange and almost army green are just too pastel. They're also not quite there in terms of colour choice (imo). If the green was a blue you'd nail complementary, or if you introduced a third tone, like violet/purple for the eye lenses and some small details you'd nail secondary. Just spitballing.
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May 6, 2020 19:00
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Yeast posted:The orange and green would be my pick if you weren't using those tones of orange, or green. Yeah, actually, making that like a bright orange against a slightly more muted green could be really cool?
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May 6, 2020 19:09
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 Finished my lord on crackalack, which means I've finished the entire Start Collecting STDs box, which I definitely did not expect - and then some. I've almost got a respectable Chaos force done. Almost. Thanks, global pandemic. 
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May 6, 2020 19:15
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well I got some red on my angry plastic spaceman   suddenly I'm thinking about what order I really want to do things in; I used to do like all the base coats, then all the wash, then all the layer/drybrush work now I'm looking around and wondering if I should interleave those things more based on kind of the "layer" of the model they are touching -- that one wash doesn't dull out the base coat of another layer in a way that I don't like and end up with the whole model looking kind of flat, which I sometimes felt was a problem in the past (though I probably didn't do enough proper post-wash layer work as well)
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May 6, 2020 19:40
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Yeah, when I did my angry marine kill team I did all the model in red, then worked really carefully on the trim (word bearers). I learned from that and what I have started doing on my rubric marines, is I've been painting all the trim areas first. That way I can be a little less precise, and any of the gold that spills over (say on the pauldron) will get covered when I painted them in. It is much easier for me to be more precise in the recessed areas.
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May 6, 2020 19:47
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Painted a dire pigeon to go with the living statues
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May 6, 2020 22:24
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Winklebottom posted:Painted a dire pigeon to go with the living statues That is all very loving cool. Can you touch on how you did the tree trunk on the base?
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May 6, 2020 22:39
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tangy yet delightful posted:That is all very loving cool. Can you touch on how you did the tree trunk on the base? Sure. The outer bark is GW Dryad Bark and the inner is GW Baneblade Brown. Washed all over with AP Strong Tone and then drybrushed Baneblade Brown on the outer parts. I gave it a very light drybrush of GW Screaming Skull to finish. If you meant model-wise, it’s part of the molded base for The Farstriders Underworld warband.
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May 6, 2020 22:56
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Winklebottom posted:Painted a dire pigeon to go with the living statues UMMM WOW THIS IS AMAZING LOOKING 
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May 6, 2020 23:11
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Sultan Tarquin posted:I went back over the skin and it seemed to have knocked back the hard edges a little. Man highlighting is tough! Feelin pretty good about them though. Tails need another pass. Is he name Squeaky McStabbers? 
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May 6, 2020 23:45
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It 100% is now.
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Sultan Tarquin posted:It 100% is now. 
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Winklebottom posted:Sure. The outer bark is GW Dryad Bark and the inner is GW Baneblade Brown. Washed all over with AP Strong Tone and then drybrushed Baneblade Brown on the outer parts. I gave it a very light drybrush of GW Screaming Skull to finish. I love those colors, gonna have to put them on my list to buy and I'll have to keep that warband in mind to or at least some bitz. Thanks!
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May 7, 2020 00:22
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well all the base coat and washing is done; time for the details  
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Winklebottom posted:Painted a dire pigeon to go with the living statues Needs bird poo poo all over him
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May 7, 2020 02:18
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In continuing my descent into painting I've turned to the citadel painting app to help me understand how the paint types fit together. One thing I am a little confused on is how the battle ready/parade ready system works. Do you add the parade ready colors on top of the battle ready ones? Or do you just use the same base paint but follow two different 'tracks'?
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May 7, 2020 02:42
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Pakxos posted:In continuing my descent into painting I've turned to the citadel painting app to help me understand how the paint types fit together. One thing I am a little confused on is how the battle ready/parade ready system works. Do you add the parade ready colors on top of the battle ready ones? Or do you just use the same base paint but follow two different 'tracks'? you're right the second time. "Battle ready" is if you want to do the least work possible, and are happy to just have paint on models. "Parade ready" is more time consuming, but will yield much better results. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/21/introducing-battle-readygw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/ Yeast fucked around with this message at 03:32 on May 7, 2020 |
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"Battle ready" is also known as "tabletop standard" in most other circles. Many people (somewhat rightly) side with the idea that painted models on the table are better than unpainted ones, regardless of the quality of the paint job. It used to be that people would do basic colors and "dip" them in floor stain to get to "battle ready" in a relatively quick time. Nowadays that's being taken over by Contrast. The point of both methods is to get something recognizably like a painted model and part of a cohesive whole so that others can identify what it is on the table, instead of having a confusing sea of grey plastic.
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May 7, 2020 03:49
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Yeah they always kind of had the “battle ready” concept, they just didn’t call it out as specifically They would just note that prime + base coat + shade (+ optional dry brush) was good enough for beginners or people painting a lot of models or whatever, but hey here’s some layering you can try out if you really want to make it pop I feel like they’ve been steadily improving and investing in their education materials Even the old citadel painting book I have, while it’s decent at providing paint charts and some examples, it really isn’t as straightforward as their newer (free) apps and online content
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Alright. Thanks all. Follow up is, since I want to be, even with my weak skills, pushing myself, is there a reason shades tend to only be used on the 'battle ready' track? For example, the App has Gold Plate. The two methods for Classic is: Battle Ready is Retributor Armor > Shade with Reikland Fleshshade Parade Ready is Retributor Armor > Liberator Gold > Stormhost Silver From the guides I've seen, shading is always the step taken after base-coating, but that doesn't fit with how Parade Ready usually omits a shade. Will the layering process naturally create the darkening people using Shades for? Or is there a piece to this art puzzle I missed?
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May 7, 2020 04:41
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The shading will dull the colors in addition to giving the recesses that nice contrast since it still sticks a little everywhere so “parade ready” is the work of reapplying paints outside the recessed areas to brighten things back up, adding edge highlighting explicitly and/or dry brushing with possible multiple layers of highlight,etc
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Pakxos posted:Will the layering process naturally create the darkening people using Shades for? Or is there a piece to this art puzzle I missed? Not really, you’re just pointing out a dumb flaw in their schema. That really is confusing if you haven’t painted before. If you’d like, I’m sure a bunch of us in here could help you choose some colours and how to apply it if you’d like. What are you wanting to paint?
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May 7, 2020 05:29
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In fact yeah looking at it the steps are even numbered correctly; parade starts as step number n + 1 from the battle ready section
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May 7, 2020 05:45
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oh wait it looks like you were just looking at colors instead of model examples; they don’t go into all the steps there
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Arcteryx Anarchist posted:oh wait it looks like you were just looking at colors instead of model examples; they don’t go into all the steps there Yes, this could be the heart of the problem - I've been looking at the models and then looking at the color breakdown. Yeast posted:Not really, you’re just pointing out a dumb flaw in their schema. That really is confusing if you haven’t painted before. I am always happy to get help! I picked Salamanders as the scheme to work through the process with. I have terminators, intercessors and a Primaris LT on order. So plenty of standard models to practice on. I've just been basing the armor in Waaagh flesh and the weapons/details in leadbelcher. I did read the goonhammer guides, but thought the app would be easier. So it goes.
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If you guys haven't been watching the Warhammer TV twitch streams during the lockdown, you have been missing out on three professional GW Painters and one social media producer guy pumping out a ton of tips and tricks and also slowly going insane
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Big Willy Style posted:Needs bird poo poo all over him I did actually add a few discrete patches but maybe I should just go full ham with it. No dignity when pigeons are involved
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