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Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




I have now read the first half of one piece and hoo boy I cried a lot

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NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

I used to watch my cousin play a game on his brand new 2002 Dell and I always assumed it was Diablo 2 because he also loved that but looking back I think it was actually

NienNunb posted:

Arcanum..

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Stephen King is... well he's not McDonalds, he's that comfortable mid-tier franchise that's not restaurant quality but you know you're gonna get a solid and satisfying meal and not feel too gross afterwards (apart from that one section of IT). I just devour his writing, the guy is incredible at dragging the reader deep into the world he has created and suddenly 700 pages have passed and you've reached the unsatisfying ending because King seems to have a weird thing where he doesn't quite know how to wrap up the world he made.

His novellas are superb, there's Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption obviously, but stuff like Apt Pupil, The Body, The Breathing Method (a story where the Lovecraftian aspects are entirely in the background of the framing device, awesome), The Mist, Secret Window/Secret Garden, The Langoliers, The Sun Dog, Dolan's Cadillac, The Library Policeman and Rage (no longer in print but well worth reading if you can find a copy) are all fantastic reads.

Junpei Hyde posted:

I have now read the first half of one piece and hoo boy I cried a lot

Have you completed Marineford? :ohdear:

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Jerusalem posted:

Have you completed Marineford? :ohdear:

Yeah :negative:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


:smith::hf::negative:

But man, the highs before the ending of that arc are amazing. The pirate ship falling out of the sky in the middle of all the chaos is a loving incredible moment. All that insane poo poo going on and oh my God now Luffy is here too, you know that the Fleet Admiral is just so loving fed up of all this bullshit :xd:

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"


Well done, young marine.

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


Jerusalem posted:

not feel too gross afterwards (apart from that one section of IT).
big shout out also to every line of Detta’s dialogue

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

jesus WEP posted:

big shout out also to every line of Detta’s dialogue

Ooooof yeah, okay I had shielded my mind from that memory. Yeah. Or any time he tries to write an angry black character, for that matter.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Stephen King's greatest short stories and related works

-Lawnmower Man
-The Pierce Brosnan movie where some b director riding the white lightning read that poo poo and said "what if this was completely unrecognizable and also even worse"
-The one short story where a long rear end finger came out of the drain that I am pretty sure Majora's Mask ripped off
-Popsy

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


i own the bachmann collection but the only one i read was the long walk. it was good though. im not really sure why i didn’t bother to read the others

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



To be less ironic, I forget the name of the story or which particular collection it came from, but King has one where a dude summons some sort of demonic entity to help him with some persomal vendetta against a high school bully or work rival or some such typical secondary King antagonist, and part of the ritual to summon or bind the thing involves cutting off and sacrificing several fingers. The description of the act including getting more clumsy and unpleasantly imprecise the fewer fingers he had was very visceral and has stuck with me vividly for years despite the rest of the story being obviously fine but unmemorable as you can tell from my description. I have always regarded it as one of his single finest snippets of righting.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

jesus WEP posted:

i own the bachmann collection but the only one i read was the long walk. it was good though. im not really sure why i didn’t bother to read the others

Oh poo poo, The Long Walk was great. I think Frank Darabont might have been considering an adaptation at one point before AMC soured him of television in general.

Rage is very good but he let it fall out of print because he got extremely disturbed about the rise of school shootings and worried his book had glamorized it. Roadwork is actually in a similar vein, about an angry man who goes off the deep end and responses with violence. Running Man is VERY different to the movie, and is particularly fascinating for a book about reality television decades before that was a thing.

All of the books in the Bachmann collection are very angry and at times nihilistic. Apparently when he wrote them he was still dealing with the trauma of his mother - who he had a complicated history with - dying on cancer. The Long Walk is probably the most "upbeat" of them and even that is about 100 young men walking themselves to death for the entertainment of others.

Bluedeanie posted:

To be less ironic, I forget the name of the story or which particular collection it came from, but King has one where a dude summons some sort of demonic entity to help him with some persomal vendetta against a high school bully or work rival or some such typical secondary King antagonist, and part of the ritual to summon or bind the thing involves cutting off and sacrificing several fingers. The description of the act including getting more clumsy and unpleasantly imprecise the fewer fingers he had was very visceral and has stuck with me vividly for years despite the rest of the story being obviously fine but unmemorable as you can tell from my description. I have always regarded it as one of his single finest snippets of righting.

I don't think I've read that one, but there is another story he writes about a guy who survives a crash and slowly has to convince himself to eat parts of himself to stave off starvation. The entire time he's obsessed with saving his fingers (I think he was a doctor?) and the way his journal devolves as he goes slowly mad is incredible: LADY FINGERS THEY TASTE LIKE LADY FINGERS!.

Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 02:14 on May 7, 2020

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 18 hours!

Bluedeanie posted:

-Lawnmower Man
-The Pierce Brosnan movie where some b director riding the white lightning read that poo poo and said "what if this was completely unrecognizable and also even worse"

I think these are one and the same, the story had to do with pagan gods, sacrifice, and lawnmowing. The movie had Pierce Brosnan as a scientist who did some Flowers for Algernon + virtual reality stuff with a disabled person, and that somehow gave the disabled guy godlike powers and access to an early version of the Internet. The guy he experimented on mowed lawns (prior to all that), which provided the only connection to the original story

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Wasn't Lawnmower Man the one about the suburban dude who hires a guy to do his lawns, and the guy's some crazy fucker who strips naked and races around chewing up the grass, and at one point eats a loving gopher?

King has written some weird poo poo.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


I think if you asked me what my ultimate example of "a dumb fun film I love" is, idk if Maximum Overdrive would definitely be the first choice I give, but it'd definitely be one of the first choices

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Sydney Bottocks posted:

I think these are one and the same, the story had to do with pagan gods, sacrifice, and lawnmowing. The movie had Pierce Brosnan as a scientist who did some Flowers for Algernon + virtual reality stuff with a disabled person, and that somehow gave the disabled guy godlike powers and access to an early version of the Internet. The guy he experimented on mowed lawns (prior to all that), which provided the only connection to the original story

I know the Brosnan movie was Lanwmower Man, I was saying it had nothing to do with the story aside from the name. King successfully sued to have his name removed from itm

Jerusalem posted:

Wasn't Lawnmower Man the one about the suburban dude who hires a guy to do his lawns, and the guy's some crazy fucker who strips naked and races around chewing up the grass, and at one point eats a loving gopher?

King has written some weird poo poo.

It was an actual satyr/pan/whatever type of thing that I guess just made money by mowing lawns but beat your rear end if you saw him while he mowed your lawn.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UBhUSnZKwo

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Jerusalem posted:

I don't think I've read that one, but there is another story he writes about a guy who survives a crash and slowly has to convince himself to eat parts of himself to stave off starvation. The entire time he's obsessed with saving his fingers (I think he was a doctor?) and the way his journal devolves as he goes slowly mad is incredible: LADY FINGERS THEY TASTE LIKE LADY FINGERS!.

Survivor Type from Skeleton Crew. The same book that has The Jaunt.

LONGER THAN YOU THINK, DAD! LONGER THAN YOU THINK!

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 12 days!


This is the only Stephen King book I've ever owned and/or read even a little bit of, it's been sitting on a shelf for years but the little bit I got through seemed alright.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

i'm scared of scary material.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Cavauro posted:

i'm scared of scary material.

Turn off your monitor.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

I didn't want to scare people, I'm sorry I asked the cursed question. I never meant to hurt you.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

CobiWann posted:

Turn off your monitor.

Thank you for this advice. i won't be able to see the scary things that people post with my monitor turned off. You've been nice to me for a long time and i appreciate it

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

NienNunb posted:

I didn't want to scare people, I'm sorry I asked the cursed question. I never meant to hurt you.

It's all been sorted now, so you don't have to be sorry or worried about me. thanks to everyone for contributing to this community

Captain Magic
Apr 4, 2005

Yes, we have feathers--but the muscles of men.
On Writing is pretty good. King is a professional writer and has a lot of basic, practical professional writing advice. You read it the same way you’d read a book on selling stuff by some salesman who sold a lot.

I made apple butter cinnamon rolls. They are pretty good.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

Wasn't Shawshank a short story originally

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



A novella. It was still like 100+ pages but not his typical length. He can get pretty wordy.

Captain Magic
Apr 4, 2005

Yes, we have feathers--but the muscles of men.
It is like, the prototypical King because it has so many great characters, great moments, great mythology...and he falls into this pattern of having to do SOMETHING with EVERY character.

There’s what, seven Losers? And EACH one has a scary moment with It. And EACH one has a revelation about It. And then they go back to Derry and EACH one has another scary moment with It...

King took all the lessons from pulp about quickly punching out relatable characters, making things happen with immediacy, building smart understandable stakes...and then did not at all remember to keep things happening at a fast clip and to tie it all up neatly with a bow on top except for when he was high as God’s balls.

Cujo, Misery, Salem’s Lot, and Christine are completely killer though.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
did everyone see this interesting article about the seagulls in Rome? i remember a while back someone posted a cool video about something similar to this. just another reason to be careful when going outside in 2020. there are a lot of seagulls where i live, and this is making me very nervous.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

It 2 was maybe the worst major blockbuster movie I've ever seen in theaters.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Hmm while I am not sure I felt each Loser's interaction with It was TOTALLY dead weight since I very much enjoyed all of them and thought they were good, I do agree it muddied the pace of that book so I understand why you feel that way

also I agree get Stephen King back on blow. someone start a change.org petition

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



NienNunb posted:

It 2 was maybe the worst major blockbuster movie I've ever seen in theaters.

the way they beat It a powerful onlyfans type degredation fetish clip feel to it for sure

Captain Magic
Apr 4, 2005

Yes, we have feathers--but the muscles of men.

Bluedeanie posted:

Hmm while I am not sure I felt each Loser's interaction with It was TOTALLY dead weight since I very much enjoyed all of them and thought they were good, I do agree it muddied the pace of that book so I understand why you feel that way

also I agree get Stephen King back on blow. someone start a change.org petition

Lots of them were good on their own, but the whole was less than the sum of its parts, which is a big Kingish problem basically

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


NienNunb posted:

It 2 was maybe the worst major blockbuster movie I've ever seen in theaters.

Don't know which I appreciated more, the random unnecessary hate crime to a gay couple in the literal first scene that let me knew immediately I was gonna hate this film, or the fact that significant time was spent over the rest of the film to take potshots at King for being bad at writing endings just to provide a worse ending to the film/story than King did

Kvantum
Feb 5, 2006
Skee-entist

Chris James 2 posted:

Don't know which I appreciated more, the random unnecessary hate crime to a gay couple in the literal first scene that let me knew immediately I was gonna hate this film, or the fact that significant time was spent over the rest of the film to take potshots at King for being bad at writing endings just to provide a worse ending to the film/story than King did

The hate crime was in the book, too, but that was when the adult version was set in 1984.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

Does anyone else find horror movies incredibly boring and just avoid them

Artelier
Jan 23, 2015


Mr. Carlisle posted:

Does anyone else find horror movies incredibly boring scary and just avoid them

Yes me hello hi

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

Mr. Carlisle posted:

Does anyone else find horror movies incredibly boring and just avoid them

i don't like horror tropes very much but then you get stuff like the witch (stylized the vvitch) & the classics like exorcist and shining and my nards get exploded by how insanely good the movies are

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


yea ok posted:

i don't like horror tropes very much but then you get stuff like the witch (stylized the vvitch) & the classics like exorcist and shining and my nards get exploded by how insanely good the movies are

I was gonna say, a lot of my fav (in general or new) horror films are stuff that basically completely don't fit into the traditional theme of what horror is/is perceived to be. I hate jump scares, found footage, lack of color/atmosphere, completely dumb characters, etc. and very few of those films I listed a page or two ago have any of that

Some of it might still be considered boring (Hagazussa, November, even Under The Skin) but if it's beautiful and tense and well-done in every other way I can forgive pacing
The first half hour of Climax is just dancing and talking, and then the rest of it feels like a drawn out panic attack
Horse Girl is like if Alison Brie starred in a modern more nuts version of Safe
Those last 10 minutes of Annihilation are still the most surreal ten minutes of a film I ever got to see in a theater
One Cut of the Dead is incredible with what it pulls off and deserves all the attention it got after premiering on Shudder
I'm still amazed Midsommar and Suspiria 2018 even got made

Horror's at its best when people remember it doesn't, and doesn't have to, fit in this one box of what it should do or how it should look

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Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

I mean I like a few here and there like The Shining, 28 Days Later, The Decent and movies like that where the movie itself is also very good with tons of building tension and not just a bunch of cheap jump scares but there was a string of years there where it seemed like every horror movie was Saw or Hostel torture porn or just an hour and a half of cheap jump scares and I gave up on them so I'm not trying to be dismissive of any recent good ones but goddamn there was a streak of garbage

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