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so yeah as this thread said multiple times health departments weren't counting people who died in nursing homes; the real death rate was easily over 3000 at the peak and is probably at least a 9/11 per day once we get the revised numbers in a month
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It wasn't about not going to work or out to park or shopping or whatever it was 2/3 people were sleeping in thier own beds at night and not at an old folks home or homeless shelter or jail or something. It's 2020 if something sounds exaggerated take ten seconds and read the article because it probably is.
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Thoguh posted:No, it's literally just people who didn't leave thier home and either end up living in a group setting or becoming homeless. Your response is exactly what the headline is trying to force on people by being entirely misleading. what I'm trying to parse your response and I don't get what you're saying here. Someone in a group setting that didn't leave was exposed because someone else brought it in and exposed them. In a strict enough lockdown, you should get pretty close to 100% of cases being people who stayed home because that's going to be everyone anyway.
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KaptainKrunk posted:so yeah as this thread said multiple times health departments weren't counting people who died in nursing homes; the real death rate was easily over 3000 at the peak and is probably at least a 9/11 per day once we get the revised numbers in a month Lmao, 'was'
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Paradoxish posted:what It took less than a minute to open the article, read it, copy/paste, and post this. quote:Hospitals were asked to document where their most recent COVID-19 patients had been staying before admission, Cuomo said, and 66 percent came from their own homes.
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lmao how the year is not even to the halfway point and the official US CV death toll has already exceeded the yearly flu death of 60k/70k.
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Thoguh posted:It took less than a minute to open the article, read it, copy/paste, and post this. Yeah but you didn't keep reading: quote:The governor said it was “shocking" that 66% of new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who are either retired or unemployed and not commuting to work on a regular basis. It's not they're talking about people who literally live at home, it's that they're talking about people who don't commute to work.
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KaptainKrunk posted:so yeah as this thread said multiple times health departments weren't counting people who died in nursing homes; the real death rate was easily over 3000 at the peak and is probably at least a 9/11 per day once we get the revised numbers in a month can't wait to reach the peak so this post from the future makes sense. etalian posted:lmao how the year is not even to the halfway point and the official US CV death toll has already exceeded the yearly flu death of 60k/70k. haha, they're already projecting this many CV19 deaths per month and they're being extremely, wildly optimistic in doing so.
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Thoguh posted:It took less than a minute to open the article, read it, copy/paste, and post this. I mean Cuomo is literally misrepresenting this information, in order to confuse people, in that very statement that you quoted. It's not that surprising that people are confused by this, they're trying to confuse people. quote:Hospitals were asked to document where their most recent COVID-19 patients had been staying before admission, Cuomo said, and 66 percent came from their own homes. quote:The governor said it was “shocking" that 66% of new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who are either retired or unemployed and not commuting to work on a regular basis. These are two different things. Casey Finnigan has issued a correction as of 01:37 on May 7, 2020 |
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EVERYONE IS AGREEING WITH EACH OTHER WHY ARE WE SCREAMING?
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I am confused, someone set me straight
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starting to see people I know who've been friends for years getting into public shouting matches on facebook because one of them has dumb chud opinions, and it's happening in a number of different social circles that kept it on lock through obama and 3 years of trump
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Like the point is that some high percentage of people who have been infected have no reason to go outside of their house except for basic necessities, which is a totally meaningless statement in a state that's in lockdown. Because nobody is hermetically sealed in their homes so everyone has some chance of being exposed or coming into contact with someone who's been exposed, and it doesn't matter if you're unemployed or retired or whatever.
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May 7, 2020 01:37
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Steve Yun posted:I am confused, someone set me straight gently caress you
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Thoguh posted:The actual article just says that 2/3 of people lived at home so I don't get how they connect that to saying those people rarely left home, much less defining what 'rarely' meant in this context. lol christ that is stupid
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reminder that the flu number of 60k includes 45k deaths they just "assume" was the flu, which is fair and probably correct it's the exact opposite metric chuds want to use to count covid deaths
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Paradoxish posted:Isn't this like completely expected, though? I hate to break it to you but it is hunting us through walls now. Steve Yun posted:I am confused, someone set me straight
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Judakel posted:Dudes rock. I'm that 3% but boy am I phoning it in
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Trixie Hardcore posted:I hate to break it to you but it is hunting us through walls now. Just like that Cuban embassy sound headache stuff
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Wendy Burger not selling beef is like Tim Apple all of the sudden selling OrangeOS systems. This is GOD drat AMERICA 
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if u live ina building clean the common/entry areas like every day or youre all doomed
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https://twitter.com/Oregonian/status/1258042551757570048?s=20 The results from a new set of surveys by Morning Consult found that 14 percent of American adults would not get a COVID-19 vaccine if one were available and 22 percent aren’t sure if they would. In a separate recent survey, currently undergoing peer review, political scientists Kristin Lunz Trujillo and Matt Motta found that 23% of U.S. respondents said they would not get vaccinated against COVID-19.
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Paradoxish posted:Yeah but you didn't keep reading: The 66% is people who sleep in thier own beds. The article switches in the second part to talk about how most people getting sick are not front line workers but isn't clear about it so people read it as 'wow, 2/3 of the people who get this are observing stay at home orders and not leaving home at all' when that isn't what the data says or what the article is actually saying, though it is certainly what it is implying.
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*uses an elevator nearly every day 30 other people have used in the last 2 hours* it must be farts coming from my pipes
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fosborb posted:EVERYONE IS AGREEING WITH EACH OTHER WHY ARE WE SCREAMING? new C-SPAM motto
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Dr_0ctag0n posted:I'm legitimately considering quitting my job because nobody in the entire company is acting like anything has changed and not a single person in the office other than me is wearing a mask. I hate these goddamned chuds so much I'm just screaming internally all day long. hell, same.
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/Oregonian/status/1258042551757570048?s=20 this is convenient since there will never be one
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FizFashizzle posted:this is convenient since there will never be one Do you base that on the failed vaccines for SARS and MERS or there's something else going on that you feel a vaccine will never happen?
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fosborb posted:EVERYONE IS AGREEING WITH EACH OTHER WHY ARE WE SCREAMING? it's cspam and someone has to be the best
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Spime Wrangler posted:starting to see people I know who've been friends for years getting into public shouting matches on facebook because one of them has dumb chud opinions, and it's happening in a number of different social circles that kept it on lock through obama and 3 years of trump Yeah, response to this thing has turned in to a proxy war for politics in some frustrating but occasionaly delightful ways, especially for all the people that are usually 'I'm the sane moderate who thinks the truth is in the middle' types having crack ping moments about republicans openly being a death cult that wants to murder service workers.
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Steve Yun posted:I am confused, someone set me straight We don't do that here.
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i listened to cuomo's entire statement. seemed to me like he was implying that most of the 66% of people who said they "stayed at home" and still caught the virus were old people who did not socially distance. not to defend the cuomo, gently caress him, but didnt seem that unreasonable. of course the media takes it out of context and distorts it
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I don't know about anyone else but I've gone total Brazil. When I come into work the store is being sanitized and new plastic sheets are being hung, we're all wearing appropriate gear and are a skeleton crew to keep interaction down. Customers are limited and routed through the store and are also fully protected ppe or wait outside patiently while we fulfill their order. People that come in are grateful and polite and cautious. I feel like a hero helping out my community in such a challenging time.
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/Oregonian/status/1258042551757570048?s=20 hahaha this virus is just so goddamn good at owning americans
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FAUXTON posted:it's cspam and someone has to be the best Pffft. That's what YOU think. Unlike you I'm super humbled. You never hear me brag about anything. 
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at first i feared it, but now i respecte it. *salute*
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Zil posted:Do you base that on the failed vaccines for SARS and MERS or there's something else going on that you feel a vaccine will never happen? there's never been a vaccine for any coronavirus, has there? my understanding is that them claiming they'll be able to make one is mostly wishful thinking and hoping against hope more than it is based on past precedent
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Thoguh posted:The 66% is people who sleep in thier own beds. I don't think your reading of the article is correct. The article mentions group settings, but the 66% that Cuomo is talking about and the 66% in the headline is specifically referring to people who are unemployed or retired. It's using those as proxies for "no reason to leave home." The end of the article mentions it too: quote:“This is a surprise: Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” Cuomo said during a briefing on Long Island. “We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we’ve taken special precautions on public transportation, but actually no, because these people were literally at home.” He's saying "they were at home" because they didn't have to take the subway or whatever to get to work. This is dumb for many, many reasons so I doubt we really disagree about much here though.
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Zil posted:Do you base that on the failed vaccines for SARS and MERS or there's something else going on that you feel a vaccine will never happen? A vaccine will take over a year to be tested, authorized, manufactured, and distributed, at minimum. You should be skeptical of any vaccines that come out early.
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Paradoxish posted:I don't think your reading of the article is correct. The article mentions group settings, but the 66% that Cuomo is talking about and the 66% in the headline is specifically referring to people who are unemployed or retired. It's using those as proxies for "no reason to leave home." The end of the article mentions it too: well, they only exist to be worker drones/slaves for the ruling class, so if they're unemployed, they have no purpose to exist or do anything. bing bong
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