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KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
by all accounts mozart was a piece of work as well

you can like someones art and still think they're a fuckup, in fact this is probably the best way to go about it

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Xakura posted:

You're blinded by your love of her music. Sometimes subversive, thought-provoking actions are not planned, just a weird person acting naturally. Don't put people on a pedestal.

I don’t consider it pedestal-placing to say most performance artists aren’t dipshits. It’s just the default.

Dipshit to me means “dumb,” not someone you disagree with on various policies etc.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Sometimes I am so happy that my life is more or less normal.

NightGyr
Mar 7, 2005
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mlmp08 posted:

Dipshit to me means “dumb,” not someone you disagree with on various policies etc.

quote:

Claire Boucher and William Gratz had their sights set on the southern reaches of the Mississippi River when they packed their chickens, a sewing machine and 20 pounds of potatoes into a houseboat they crafted from scratch.

Calling themselves Veruschka and Zelda Xox, river names worthy of the grand adventure they envisioned, the young couple pushed off from the riverbank in north Minneapolis the first week of June.

But their journey ended only a few miles downstream after engine trouble and a three-week tangle with the cops. The Minneapolis park police trailed them from river bank to river bank, as Boucher and Gratz tried to get their boat in working order, often tying up to trees and hopping ashore to gather supplies from Craigslist and hardware stores.

Now their vessel, the "Velvet Glove Cast in Iron," is marooned in the Minneapolis impound lot. The chickens were seized by animal control, and Boucher, 21, and Gratz, 23, have abandoned their hope of reliving the enduring tradition of river lore.

"Even though it's sad this happened, it's still an adventure," Boucher said.

The trouble began, as it often does, with a sudden twist of fate and an encounter with the law.

Boucher, who's from Vancouver, B.C., and Gratz, from Tennessee, met at school in Montreal. The idea for the river journey was hatched last fall. After months of Internet research, they made the 25-hour trip to Bemidji, Minn., where a friend allowed them to build the boat on his property. For more than a month, they toiled over the engineering of the 20-foot boat to make sure it floated. They installed accordion folding doors, glass windows, pink shutters and painted murals in black, white and red paint of fantastical creatures on the sides. Strangers gave them bikes, a mattress and the sewing machine (powered by on-board batteries). They got a copy of Mark Twain's "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn," which neither of them had read.

"I always wanted to live on a boat," Boucher said. "We both wanted to go south and live on it when we got to New Orleans."

They hauled it to north Minneapolis and shoved off from land the first week of June. Moments later, their engine began to sputter and gurgle. They made it to the other side of the river and tied the boat to a tree, determined to repair the motor and be on their way again in a few days.

They were awakened one morning by Minneapolis park police officer Rob Mooney tapping the side of their boat with a stick. Mooney gave them until the next Tuesday to gather life jackets, paddles and other supplies, despite a Minneapolis park ordinance forbidding boats from tying up to any tree, shrub or post in a park without a permit. The officer said the couple never told him about their engine trouble.

"I love the idea of the Tom Sawyer adventure," Mooney said. "The problem is it's not 1883. You can't do that anymore. You have to follow the rules."

When Mooney returned a week later and saw Boucher and Gratz's chickens grazing and signs of camping, they were given citations for camping and alcohol consumption in the park and told to move along.

"We were just trying to get our act together so we could get out of the Twin Cities," Gratz said. "We didn't want to float down the river out of control."

The next leg of their journey was much more precarious. After entering the channel without a working motor, they began to drift toward rocks jutting out of the water. Surrounded by caution signs, they frantically pushed away from the danger using sticks. They reached an island north of the Lowry Bridge.

The island seemed to be a haven for canoes and other boats, they said, so they set up camp and made plans to resume their search for a working motor over the next week. Swimming was the only way to reach the river bank, so several times a day they would jump in the water and bring back tools wrapped in plastic bags.

Fate of the journey uncertain

The tranquility of the island didn't last long. This time, the Hennepin County Sheriff Office's water patrol showed up and told all of the boaters to leave by that evening in advance of the Lowry Bridge demolition on Sunday. Another boat towed the Velvet Glove Cast in Iron to Boom Island, where the final showdown would take place.

Mooney said when he spotted the houseboat there, he'd had enough.

"I personally allowed them for a couple weeks to try to solve the problem on their own," he said. "It was clear that they couldn't get it done."

The city loaded the houseboat onto a flatbed trailer and took it away.

On Thursday, Boucher and Gratz took a city bus to the impound lot to retrieve whatever they could carry from the boat. They searched for a jar of wild rice so they could make dinner for the strangers who are letting the couple stay with them for a few nights.

The couple say they can't afford to fix the minor damage from the towing or have the boat hauled back to the river. They're planning to continue their trip south by bus. The chickens can't be reclaimed without a Minneapolis address and permit, so they will be sent to a chicken farm. Its fate uncertain, the Velvet Glove Cast in Iron rests next to burned-up and smashed car carcasses.

Boucher and Gratz still have a few people rooting for them.

"I would love for them to go," Mooney said. "I hope they do it."

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
20-year-olds are almost inherently dipshits.

At 20 I did nothing so publicly accounted by regulators/cops, but stuff that was more physically perilous.

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

NightGyr posted:

(Grimes river cruise)

Haha, I had forgotten that was her

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
They did a fly by with Doc, a KC-46 and a KC-135 today but the flight path was at least 5 miles east of my work so I didn't get any pictures ☹️

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

mlmp08 posted:

20-year-olds are almost inherently dipshits.

At 20 I did nothing so publicly accounted by regulators/cops, but stuff that was more physically perilous.

IIRC they were lucky to have been impounded before a very hazardous section of the river in Minneapolis that would almost certainly have destroyed their boat, and given their documented lack of safety gear, it probably wouldn’t have gone well for them.

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here


Blue Angels just flew over the house. I'll be humming Van Halen all day now...

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones

PhotoKirk posted:



Blue Angels just flew over the house. I'll be humming Van Halen all day now...

I appreciate this

NightGyr
Mar 7, 2005
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PCjr sidecar posted:

IIRC they were lucky to have been impounded before a very hazardous section of the river in Minneapolis that would almost certainly have destroyed their boat, and given their documented lack of safety gear, it probably wouldn’t have gone well for them.

Also they literally could have put in a few miles downriver and avoided all the rapids.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

https://twitter.com/AA_Pilot/status/1257788782818058245?s=20

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

it looks a lot like a regular hornet

brains
May 12, 2004

you really need to see it parked right next to an -A model to appreciate the size difference

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
They really need to rework, alter, or eliminate that "US Navy" along the side. It looks like it's written on warped plastic.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Sagebrush posted:

it looks a lot like a regular hornet

The square intakes give it away. But to be fair, the Super Hornet sort of is the regular Hornet.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

yeah no I know the differences, it just has always bugged (ha) me that the Super Hornet is just a bigger chonkier hornet with worse proportions instead of looking like an actual upgrade. the leading-edge extensions in particular always make it look fat, where the A/B/C/D models are lean and pointy.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

I hope the engine intakes can handle all those compression artifacts.

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

wow I heard the murder hornets were bigger than normal hornets but that's bigger and bluer than I was expecting.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Curious to see how the routine changes. They're gaining quite a bit of power, but losing maneuverability.

Edit; V :lol:

Godholio fucked around with this message at 22:25 on May 6, 2020

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
The part of the show where their improved radar switches scan modes will be a visual feast.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Sagebrush posted:

yeah no I know the differences, it just has always bugged (ha) me that the Super Hornet is just a bigger chonkier hornet with worse proportions instead of looking like an actual upgrade. the leading-edge extensions in particular always make it look fat, where the A/B/C/D models are lean and pointy.

The Super Hornet is a completely different airplane that looks like an F-18 so it could get funded by Congress. It'd be like selling the Macross planes as the "F-14C."

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

I know, which is why it pisses me off even more. It's a brand new plane anyway so we could have had something cool looking instead of a fat hornet that congressmen can squint at and believe is just an upgrade despite being 30% bigger with less than 5% parts commonality.

ET_375
Nov 20, 2013

Sagebrush posted:

I know, which is why it pisses me off even more. It's a brand new plane anyway so we could have had something cool looking instead of a fat hornet that congressmen can squint at and believe is just an upgrade despite being 30% bigger with less than 5% parts commonality.

Also see: Boeing B-29 vs B-50

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Sagebrush posted:

I know, which is why it pisses me off even more. It's a brand new plane anyway so we could have had something cool looking instead of a fat hornet that congressmen can squint at and believe is just an upgrade despite being 30% bigger with less than 5% parts commonality.

Use this One Weird Trick to get a whole new plane by the Senate appropriations committee instead of an upgrade!

Congress hates it!!!!

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

I mean if it gets us VF-1s as part of the fleet I'm down to clown.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



babyeatingpsychopath posted:

It'd be like selling the Macross planes as the "F-14C."

God I wish.

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

Midjack posted:

God I wish.

You say that now, wait until we have to fight giant aliens with the power of the most annoying pop singer in the history of mankind.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
Is this the right place to ask about PPL?

I've been watching too many youtube videos, and combined with my unemployment, has made me interested in going for my PPL.

With the current situation of trying to maintain social distance, I thought maybe I can start preparing for the written exam on my own. Once I pass that, I can get my physical, then I can head to the airport and try to line up instructors and flights. Thoughts on doing it this way?

NightGyr
Mar 7, 2005
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aviation megathread might be your best option.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!

NightGyr posted:

aviation megathread might be your best option.

Thanks!

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Hughmoris posted:

Is this the right place to ask about PPL?

I've been watching too many youtube videos, and combined with my unemployment, has made me interested in going for my PPL.

With the current situation of trying to maintain social distance, I thought maybe I can start preparing for the written exam on my own. Once I pass that, I can get my physical, then I can head to the airport and try to line up instructors and flights. Thoughts on doing it this way?

Ask in the aviation thread for sure, but JFYI you will do a lot better with the written exam if you study for it alongside the flying portions. There are a lot of concepts that you can learn by rote but which will make 1000% more sense after you've experienced them in the cockpit. Similarly, studying the underpinnings of your flying as you're learning it will give you more insight into what you're doing. Pretty much all flight schools will structure the learning this way.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

priznat posted:

Interesting side note tied to Aeronautical Insanity, I remember reading a Discover magazine article when I was a kid about how being a fighter pilot correlates to a higher number of girl kids, something about the effects of g forces on the nads.

It was their last page “silly science” article so it could be disproved but it stuck with me.

It's not a g force thing. Apparently guys who ride AWACs all the time skew toward girl kids so supposedly it's RADAR that causes it, but it's never been studied or proven.

Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

Carth Dookie posted:

It's not a g force thing. Apparently guys who ride AWACs all the time skew toward girl kids so supposedly it's RADAR that causes it, but it's never been studied or proven.

I’ve heard the same from B52 crew.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

There are many myths among the submarine force about sailors on submarines/certain subsets of submarines trending towards daughters due to radiation and The Balls.

It's superstition mixed with confirmation bias, nothing effects how many of one's sperm carry X or Y chromosomes.

E: my dad always told me that the reason he had 4 boys (me, my brother and 2 half-brothers) was because he lost a testicle when he was a kid (true) and that was the one with all girl-sperm (absolute bullshit). Fertility myths have been ongoing since before Christ's birth, they're as untrue now as they were back then.

Elviscat fucked around with this message at 07:43 on May 7, 2020

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

Same myth exists in the surface navy, every ET I've ever talked to believes that stupid idea.

Non ionizing radiation isn't gonna hurt your nuts people!!*

*At low powers of radiation.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

https://twitter.com/lennythepen/status/1257705936661200899

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib

Fatty can fly.

Speaking of Australian planes, Boeing unveiled the first Australian designed, engineered and manufactured aircraft in over 50 years.


An autonomous combat drone with a hotswappable nose to suit various mission needs (sensor arrays or whatever)

quote:

The 11.5-metre-long, artificially intelligent device will now move onto ground testing, followed by test flights later this year.

The ground-breaking prototype is not a remotely controlled drone but instead uses artificial intelligence to help both manned and unmanned aircraft in mid-air, hence the Australian project name Loyal Wingman.

...

Over a series of flight tests and demonstrations, the RAAF hopes to figure out how to best integrate drones with fighter jets and other combat aircraft, allowing the air force to keep pilots safe by putting lower cost unmanned assets at risk during a fight.

Around the world, it will known as the Boeing Airpower Teaming System (BATS).

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Lou Takki posted:

Same myth exists in the surface navy, every ET I've ever talked to believes that stupid idea.

Non ionizing radiation isn't gonna hurt your nuts people!!*

*At low powers of radiation.
Confirmation bias is a hell of a thing.

Somewhat timely with the whole crazy 5G/Covid thing right now and might be worth a quick sidebar:

Risk /= Hazard
A Hazard is something that has the potential to cause harm. A risk is the chance of it happening.

Non-ionizing radiation in day to day life has basically virtually no risk. However, it does have a hazard. Standing in front of a high power transmitter 24/7 is probably not the best thing.

Likewise, a shark may very well be a hazard, but if it's in a tank at an aquarium the risk is tiny.

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