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IMJack posted:If Allison has to return to her homeworld and reveal herself to the public, it's probably because Mottom's army is coming to collect her tithe. Or has already shown up. Allison knocking a floating city out of the air with a burning spear of lightning would be pretty obvious.
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pseudorandom name posted:Allison knocking a floating city out of the air with a burning spear of lightning would be pretty obvious. these conquering armies have destroyed civilizations that developed nuclear arms I don't think Allison is up to the task of repelling an invasion yet
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May 7, 2020 21:06
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Who What Now posted:I believe he meant those that survived him attacking them would be handsomely. no, he said "if you want to win this round stand there and do nothing, but you can all attack me if you want" then pasted everyone who moved to attack in an instant. that was the whole point, to flex, and drive home that everyone better do what dad salami says.
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May 7, 2020 21:37
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IMJack posted:If Allison has to return to her homeworld and reveal herself to the public, it's probably because Mottom's army is coming to collect her tithe. Or has already shown up. We already ended up with a brainworm invasion 
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May 7, 2020 21:45
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Invasion? I love our pal Gog-Agog!
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May 7, 2020 21:46
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Gog's worms make you happy and fun to be around. 
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May 7, 2020 21:55
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Mimesweeper posted:no, he said "if you want to win this round stand there and do nothing, but you can all attack me if you want" then pasted everyone who moved to attack in an instant. that was the whole point, to flex, and drive home that everyone better do what dad salami says. And to recruit people tough enough to make it to that round, but smart enough to know when to stop.
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May 7, 2020 22:03
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Mr. Lobe posted:these conquering armies have destroyed civilizations that developed nuclear arms Have they? Nothing the actual armies are carrying around seems all that impressive by modern standards and you'd think they'd have adopted some of it at some point.
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May 7, 2020 22:52
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Polaron posted:Have they? Nothing the actual armies are carrying around seems all that impressive by modern standards and you'd think they'd have adopted some of it at some point. This question was (sort of) answered on Tumblr: quote:Q: How can the Demiruges make sure no high technologies are introduced to Throne ? With the help of the Concordant Knights ? I mean, we're speaking of high-tech. Can't a gauss canon just rip an angel in two ? (okay, maybe an angel can avoid a gauss canon bullet, but still, you could invade Throne with a fleet of high-tech space dreadnoughts, with a power-armored infantry)
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May 7, 2020 23:00
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Polaron posted:Have they? Nothing the actual armies are carrying around seems all that impressive by modern standards and you'd think they'd have adopted some of it at some point. Explicitly yes; the problem is that purely technological weapons lack the heat of Will so can be easily dispelled with any Art whatsoever. This means that a tank shell isn’t really more dangerous than a musket ball unless the person firing it can use the cannon like a part of themselves, including the shell. That’s why gun witches aren’t actually more dangerous than your average high-level swordsman, and Mottom’s armies include power armor but there’s no sign of cruise missiles. Jagganoth’s foundry had tanks and such in it when we saw a wide shot; he’s been stated by Abaddon to be the demiurge most interested in weapons of war so if anyone is trying to make a nuke work in Universal War it’s him. It’s also the case that the described mechanics of the void would make shipping enchanted muskets into Earth much easier than shipping enchanted AR-15s out of it, and it would only be a marginal improvement in power output for that reason. E: the above lays it out. Joe Slowboat fucked around with this message at 23:03 on May 7, 2020 |
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May 7, 2020 23:01
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Jagganoth:"hm this world has learnt to split the very essence of creation to create energy using machines...admirable. lets strap 100 of these....nukes together"
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May 7, 2020 23:02
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jagganoth being the corporeal embodiment of a haymaker punch while simultaneously being intelligent as hell is nice
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May 7, 2020 23:02
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Realistically, Solomon making two long-term self-sustaining fusion reactors is an achievement in nuclear technology MASSIVELY outstripping anything Earth is capable of doing on any arguable time scale.
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May 7, 2020 23:03
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Mr. Lobe posted:these conquering armies have destroyed civilizations that developed nuclear arms Even Solomon can't contain a Thirty Cubit Spear
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May 7, 2020 23:04
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On a good day, Allison probably has the ability to one-shot prime angels
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May 7, 2020 23:05
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There may not even be atoms in Throne, since everything is the Flame Immortal. Atoms are just a lie told by our creator-deity, and who’s to say every world got lied into being like that? Humans are more fundamental to the omniverse than atoms are. Not to mention that the Art laughs at atoms already, and Allison can use it. The Black Art creates from nothing, after all.
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May 7, 2020 23:06
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Kill Six Billion Demons: Don't Bring a Nuke to a God-Fight
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May 7, 2020 23:08
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Potato Salad posted:Even Solomon can't contain a Thirty Cubit Spear the thirty cubit spear didn't even kill its intended target, that was weaker than solomon
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May 7, 2020 23:45
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Polaron posted:Have they? Nothing the actual armies are carrying around seems all that impressive by modern standards and you'd think they'd have adopted some of it at some point. Mottom (or even Cio) could render an entire planets nuclear arsenal disarmed with her red arts, midair. Solomon can just punch a nuke. Hell he's punched two suns into a new location of the cosmos. Jaganoth could probably personally tank infinite nukes. Jadis would likely just make everybody involved in the launch chain go insane and turn on each other with some combination of future sight/lies Mammon would either buy off the people with their hands on the buttons or just keep hiring mercenaries until the entire stockpile was consumed. Incubus probably has ways to psychologically ensure they're never even launched, and if someone with strong willpower manages anyway he could literally cut the explosion. Gog can just ignore them.
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No matter how formidable the resistance an unconquered world can muster, no matter how mighty its weapons, how sublime its arts, how strong the will of its defenders, in the end they are just one world against the combined resources of many. Any of the demiurges would rather destroy it than give it up, once they opened the door, and they are all able to.
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So far I'm really enjoying learning that Jagganoth really kind of has his poo poo together and a good education for an ex-child soldier with a history of being abused and depersonalized. I feel like he has a therapist. A very well paid and cherished therapist. All of the other Demiurges are some measure of dysfunctional and I would like it a lot of Jagganoth is like "oh. Hey. I've put a pot of tea on, let's talk politics" without any bigger flexing of kung-fu breathing bullshit. "Allison Wanda Ruth...what's your personal technique for making a cup of chai."
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I mean based on what little we know his motivation is “I’ve reinvented suicide as a group activity” so his therapist must have really focused tunnel vision.
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May 8, 2020 00:25
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You can have the wrong therapist/a bad therapist.
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May 8, 2020 00:30
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Cowcaster posted:the thirty cubit spear didn't even kill its intended target, that was weaker than solomon The Thirty Cubit Spear missed it's intended target.
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Joe Slowboat posted:I mean based on what little we know his motivation is “I’ve reinvented suicide as a group activity” so his therapist must have really focused tunnel vision. Omnicide. Multiversicide? Omniversicide?
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May 8, 2020 01:12
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M_Gargantua posted:Everyone is already Gog.
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May 8, 2020 01:20
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Turns out that liberal brain worms where more literal than we thought.
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Hostile V posted:"Allison Wanda Ruth...what's your personal technique for making a cup of chai." "uhhh we just use the powdered chai in store" "Universal War, it will start on earth, and it starts now."
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May 8, 2020 04:01
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M_Gargantua posted:Mottom (or even Cio) could render an entire planets nuclear arsenal disarmed with her red arts, midair. Cio could barely handle some chainsaws on sticks, how's she gonna disarm multiple nukes that could just explode miles away and vaporize her with a shockwave? Who What Now fucked around with this message at 04:19 on May 8, 2020 |
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Who What Now posted:Cio could barely handle a couple chainsaws on sticks, how's she gonna disarm multiple nukes that could just explode miles away and vaporize her with a shockwave? Nukes are not an extension of highly trained magic monk's wills.
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Who What Now posted:Cio could barely handle some chainsaws on sticks, how's she gonna disarm multiple nukes that could just explode miles away and vaporize her with a shockwave? Because there's an explicit framework in which chainsaws on sticks wielded by fanatics are genuinely more dangerous? Red Art protections can presumably protect from a blast wave, because physics isn't as real as the Art. The Red, White, and Black arts don't 'break' physics, they are prior to it. Now, Cio might just not be able to handle an explosion if she doesn't get warned about it - the bombs in Yre hurt her. But if she had time to prepare, the metaphysics as described mean a Red Art protection trumps any number of nukes. I imagine Abaddon won't put that into practice without significant build-up, of course, but it's explicitly the rules of the setting that demons trump non-magical, un-willed weapons. (The secret would be to have Slim Pickens ride the bomb down, that might work)
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Ledgem posted:Nukes are not an extension of highly trained magic monk's wills. Exactly On the other hand Raven's motorcycle sidecar nuke from Snow Crash is an extension of a very angry mans will, that i'm sure a lot of inhabitants of throne would have a marginal problem with.
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May 8, 2020 04:32
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Ledgem posted:Nukes are not an extension of highly trained magic monk's wills. So what you're saying is we need to develop a nuke-based martial art.
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Ledgem posted:Nukes are not an extension of highly trained magic monk's wills. I'm gonna become a Sword Saint and cleave an Atomos, the uncuttable, in half just to prove this post wrong.
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May 8, 2020 07:37
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Sounds like the Kill Six Billion Demons universe could use a Corwin of Amber. Guns of Avalon owns.
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ThingOne posted:So what you're saying is we need to develop a nuke-based martial art. If you can Cut a God, you can Cut an ato- 
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MonsieurChoc posted:Sounds like the Kill Six Billion Demons universe could use a Corwin of Amber. His name is Jagganoth. Also they already did that and it managed a tie, Mottom’s army has guns. The setting just doesn’t bend over itself for the almighty rifle because that would be incredibly thematically uninteresting (compared to Amber where Early Modern gun tech upsetting feudalism is precisely on point, because Zelazny knew what he was about).
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May 8, 2020 09:01
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ThingOne posted:So what you're saying is we need to develop a nuke-based martial art. Angels are already nukes
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Ledgem posted:Nukes are not an extension of highly trained magic monk's wills. They really seemed more like a bunch of rabid fanatics than magic monks but idk
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ThingOne posted:So what you're saying is we need to develop a nuke-based martial art. Project Orion but with fists. Detonate a series of nukes in your elbow to propel your fists faster towards the target. Still end up missing Solomon David.
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