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May 7, 2020 22:30
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Incessant Excess posted:For every new messaging app, two old ones must be abandoned. If that were true, we'd finally have our one perfect messaging app instead of 20 mediocre ones.
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May 7, 2020 22:59
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Combat Pretzel posted:Apparently Google is going to merge the various messaging teams into one, but still doesn't plan to integrate all the various apps. If anything they'll introduce two new ones.
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May 8, 2020 00:58
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Combat Pretzel posted:Apparently Google is going to merge the various messaging teams into one, but still doesn't plan to integrate all the various apps. Baby steps. 
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May 8, 2020 01:55
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It's my own fault, I suppose, but the $100 rebate I got from Google for pre-ordering the Pixel 4 expired in January, so no Pixel Buds for me anytime soon. Also, the 4 (at least the non-XL one) has a crap battery that doesn't come close to lasting a day with moderate use- I'm in battery saver mode all the drat time. Between those two things, I'm likely to not buy Google hardware anymore.
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May 8, 2020 05:00
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Glass of Milk posted:It's my own fault, I suppose, but the $100 rebate I got from Google for pre-ordering the Pixel 4 expired in January, so no Pixel Buds for me anytime soon. Yeah, that was the big knock on the smaller 4, it was pretty much a "do not buy" for most solely for that
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May 8, 2020 05:13
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Microsoft pushing Samsung Dex now? Because I just unlocked my computer and was greeted by this poo poo! --edit: Stored in C:\Windows\System32\Samsung\EasySetup no less.
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May 8, 2020 05:39
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I don't think it's them pushing it but the phone being recognized as an autoplay device and immediately loads that. Happens with some external hard drives if they want you to use their software.
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May 8, 2020 05:42
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Yeah that's not Windows/Microsoft. It's the phone/Samsung.
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May 8, 2020 05:50
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I have this S10 for way over a year. Only now it shows. And I charge it on my computer every night.
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May 8, 2020 05:55
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Combat Pretzel posted:I have this S10 for way over a year. Only now it shows. And I charge it on my computer every night. So Samsung must have changed/updated something. It's not Microsoft.
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May 8, 2020 06:02
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Anyone's power button on their Pixel 3 freak out and get jammed/hypersensitive?
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May 8, 2020 06:28
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Let me tell you a thing or two about the power buttons of the Pixel-line...
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May 8, 2020 09:34
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bull3964 posted:Unless you need Verizon compatibility, I would seriously look at the Nokia options in the pricerange before the Moto these days. I might actually need Verizon, so that makes the Nokia a no-go.
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May 8, 2020 09:44
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Christ, Samsung's connectivity apps are so poo poo! Thank bog for Microsoft's nicely integrated thing. And Dex is not available on the Note 10 lite, an artificial limitation if I've ever seen one; my S8 could do it, so an S9 gen SoC with 2 GB more RAM should not be a problem. Not that I use it, but... Ugh. Great phone otherwise, I hate phone keyboards and as an old Newton and Palm III user this handwriting recognition is insane! The future is now!
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May 8, 2020 13:01
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Combat Pretzel posted:Microsoft pushing Samsung Dex now? Because I just unlocked my computer and was greeted by this poo poo! Cool exploding phone clipart
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May 8, 2020 13:56
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FistEnergy posted:Yep the 7T is a great value choice now. I would buy that over the 8 if I was in the market. I honestly dont know how the Z (lite) is going to be able to compete against their own 7T other than make the 7T impossible to find
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May 8, 2020 14:29
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I really don't expect the Z to be in that many western markets.
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May 8, 2020 14:38
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Combat Pretzel posted:Apparently Google is going to merge the various messaging teams into one, but still doesn't plan to integrate all the various apps. Why make a cohesive, consumer-friendly Messages app when you can bow to cellphone carriers while they drag their lovely, ancient technologies into another century?
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May 8, 2020 14:59
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AlexF posted:Let me tell you a thing or two about the power buttons of the Pixel-line... 1.5 years on this Pixel 3, longest I've gone without having a hardware replacement on a Pixel or Nexus phone (excluding Galaxy Nexus.)
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May 8, 2020 16:15
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Man the OP8P is so tempting to replace my Pixel 3 XL with (since the fingerprint sensor has been acting funky and not processing prints occasionally), but there's all that Google magic I'd miss, call screening is worth the price of admission.
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May 8, 2020 18:15
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Call Screening is honestly the only thing I can think of that it doesn't have out of the "google magic." I liked Call Screening as a party trick, but I don't get enough phone calls to make it worthwhile and Duplex kinda just didn't go anywhere.
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May 8, 2020 18:23
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FogHelmut posted:1.5 years on this Pixel 3, longest I've gone without having a hardware replacement on a Pixel or Nexus phone (excluding Galaxy Nexus.) Yeah, I had my Pixel 3 without any problems for about 1,5 years as well. Battery started to degrade but it was really nice. Now on a Pixel 4 XL and still thinking back to the 3's buttons. (I'm only joking, though. I'm the button guy...)
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May 8, 2020 18:27
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To me it boils down to either pull the trigger on a OP8P, or hold out until Pixel 5 comes out. I'm one of those that actually likes face unlock because of the two stage notifications (your notifications are locked until you look at your phone then it unlocks), and I've always been a bit skeevish towards OP given their old marketing missteps.
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May 8, 2020 18:30
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The Pixel 5 may be the first mainline Pixel device I skip because it's pretty much looking like it's going to be "Pixel 4 + 5g via the SD765). That's not to say that it would make it a bad phone, it's probably the right move if it helps them bring down the price to the $600-$700 range, but it's not going to be an upgrade for anyone with a P4 or any top of the line 2020 device. I like face unlock too, but the intersection with reality right now is just unfortunate. Face masks are going to be the new normal for at least the next year and likely will be a longer to permanent part of our society for certain activities (like flying). Having face unlock be your only biometric (unless you can get it to work securely with a mask) just isn't going to work anymore.
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May 8, 2020 18:40
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bull3964 posted:The Pixel 5 may be the first mainline Pixel device I skip because it's pretty much looking like it's going to be "Pixel 4 + 5g via the SD765). That's pretty much the thing that sways me back to the OP8P argument. Face unlock is dead in the water for the next year when out in public, and going 845 to 765 feels a more like a sidegrade than a 2 year phone upgrade should be. eta: also my other sticking point is visual voicemail on OP unlocked seems a bit funky and buggy Raymond T. Racing fucked around with this message at 19:26 on May 8, 2020 |
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May 8, 2020 18:42
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Time for retinal scanners on phones!
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May 8, 2020 20:26
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bull3964 posted:The Pixel 5 may be the first mainline Pixel device I skip because it's pretty much looking like it's going to be "Pixel 4 + 5g via the SD765). You have bought every major flagship phone over the past like three years. You're going to buy one at some point. Don't lie.
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May 8, 2020 20:28
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Endless Mike posted:You have bought every major flagship phone over the past like three years. You're going to buy one at some point. Don't lie. We'll see. Every other time they've offered at least something new or improved. I'm just not seeing that with the Pixel this year. I will have a freed up equipment plan on T-Mobile by october though, maybe I'll have work pay for it. And, really, it's been only Pixels until the OP7P last year. After that is when I picked up a Samsung device.
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May 8, 2020 20:34
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bull3964 posted:I like face unlock too, but the intersection with reality right now is just unfortunate. Face masks are going to be the new normal for at least the next year and likely will be a longer to permanent part of our society for certain activities (like flying). Having face unlock be your only biometric (unless you can get it to work securely with a mask) just isn't going to work anymore. Thing is, this isn't a problem on iOS as there's separate profiles you can use. Google just needs to learn how to take in account of people not on their Mountain View campus and give us that and then it won't matter if you have a mask or not.
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May 8, 2020 20:37
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I still question as to whether or not a second profile of you wearing a mask is as secure. I mean the steps that you have to do to get it to scan your face with a mask feel like they are exploiting something (partially cover your face with the mask as you are moving your head around). Basically you have to full the system into thinking it's seeing a face while also covering part with the mask so it will recognize it. Also, do we know if the biometric API can even be patched in this fashion with the Titan security module?
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May 8, 2020 20:39
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bull3964 posted:I still question as to whether or not a second profile of you wearing a mask is as secure. I mean the steps that you have to do to get it to scan your face with a mask feel like they are exploiting something (partially cover your face with the mask as you are moving your head around). Basically you have to full the system into thinking it's seeing a face while also covering part with the mask so it will recognize it. Also, do we know if the biometric API can even be patched in this fashion with the Titan security module? They probably are exploiting something with it and it may not be 100% secure, but they'll have to do something if they don't want Face Unlock to be entirely worthless (especially if they stick it into the P5 as it probably won't have a fingerprint sensor either). Though the Titan module might complicate things...which would gently caress over the P4 (and probably the P5 unles they delay it so it will have a fingerprint sensor...if it indeed doesn't have one).
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May 8, 2020 20:50
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I thought we already solved the problem of face unlock with a mask. https://www.dailydot.com/debug/face-id-medical-masks/
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May 8, 2020 21:38
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Uthor posted:I thought we already solved the problem of face unlock with a mask. But that's not really a solve. Face unlock (that isn't garbage) isn't using a picture of your face, it's using a depth map of your face. That mask will not have the depth map of your face, so even if you print your face on it, it wouldn't work.
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May 8, 2020 21:42
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It wouldn't be surprising if that works for most implementations. Its not like this is a flat image of the entire face. And most phone makers are lazy about this poo poo. I am having the upgrade dilemma too. I skipped the Pixel 4 because I didn't want to give up the fingerprint scanner and deal with bad battery life. I'm not quite ready to jump ship for OnePlus, so I may end up just keeping my Pixel 3 another year unless the 4a has some surprises left that haven't been leaked.
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May 8, 2020 22:58
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Endless Mike posted:You have bought every major flagship phone over the past like three years. You're going to buy one at some point. Don't lie. I have too but the next Pixel may not be a major flagship. I didn't get the 3xl and 4xl at launch either, I want to love Pixel but they're not going in the right direction for me.
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May 9, 2020 02:09
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:I have too but the next Pixel may not be a major flagship. I didn't get the 3xl and 4xl at launch either, I want to love Pixel but they're not going in the right direction for me. It's absolutely a major flagship. It's the top phone from the operating system manufacturer. That you don't agree with the direction they are taking and the specs of the phone doesn't make it not the flagship of their lineup. I guess you can argue whether it's "major" but I can't imagine a good argument for the OS maker's flagship release not being "major."
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May 9, 2020 02:33
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I agree that the main Pixels seem to be moving in the wrong direction, but the a phones are a different story. I'm very interested in the 4a as potentially the new default recommendation. We really need more good affordable phones in the States.
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May 9, 2020 02:34
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Endless Mike posted:It's absolutely a major flagship. It's the top phone from the operating system manufacturer. That you don't agree with the direction they are taking and the specs of the phone doesn't make it not the flagship of their lineup. I guess you can argue whether it's "major" but I can't imagine a good argument for the OS maker's flagship release not being "major." It's not interesting to me as an s20 ultra user who likes trying the new hotness.
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May 9, 2020 12:25
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Isn't interpupillary distance a fairly strong biometric indicator? I could see that working regardless of a mask. And you'd have the eye depth as well.
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