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Rainbow Knight posted:it's going to be a 5-4 court even if biden wins, so in the "near future" it's still not going to be reversed, so that's another reason to not worry about voting for biden it's going to be a 6-3 court if biden loses, most likely Epic High Five posted:If the Dems were capable of learning lessons and adjusting strategy, they'd be aligning reforms along the now obvious fact that the executive can act largely without oversight or limits. Biden should know this especially because he was in Congress the entire time it was granting its own authorities and powers to the Executive so that they had more time to fundraise and wars could be announced and escalated quicker and with fewer incriminating votes on their records this has literally nothing to do whatsoever with my post, or the subject of the discussion
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Willo567 posted:You're not addressing the fact that the source of the story is from a far-right website. who cares where it's from if she didn't deny it. "I don't recall, but if I did say it I was joking anyway" is lawyer-speak for "I said it, I don't think you can prove it but I know it's possible you could so here's my pre-excuse for why it's fine" And anyway, Barack Obama suggested assassinating the Jonas Brothers on national TV, which is way crazier and you were fine with it
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Anyone know if the 1930s German libs spent their time splitting hairs over whether Hitler or Strasser was the better person?
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evilweasel posted:mitch abolished the scotus filibuster, they just need a simple majority Not if the Democrats have their way! https://twitter.com/SamSeder/status/1237187816192462848
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evilweasel posted:mitch abolished the scotus filibuster, they just need a simple majority Schumer vowed to bring it back if Democrats get a majority
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is pepsi ok posted:Anyone know if the 1930s German libs spent their time splitting hairs over whether Hitler or Strasser was the better person?  #MitIhm was the Social Democrats' campaign for President Hindenberg as the lesser evil compared to Hitler, because the most important goal was defeating the Communist candidate You might remember President Hindenberg as...the guy who appointed Chancellor Hitler
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evilweasel posted:it's going to be a 6-3 court if biden loses, most likely cool. then lets vote 3rd party or go on strike 
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Reminder that RBG had a second cancer diagnosis in 2009 at age 76 or so and didn't retire and then also seemed to expect to have Clinton crown her replacement. If the Supreme Court seats were so vitally important as to not be hosed around with, Dems sure aren't leading by example. It's awfully bold of them to use their hubris to hold your vote hostage instead of just, I don't know, not piling hypocritical support behind a rapist.
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Oh what, like if you don't learn from history or some dumb poo poo it'll just happen again because everyone made the same mistakes all over?
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Maybe if Dems didn't suck at winning so much, they'd have gotten more than 4 appointments in the last 50 years.
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VitalSigns posted:And anyway, Barack Obama suggested assassinating the Jonas Brothers on national TV, which is way crazier and you were fine with it Do you believe he was actually serious
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Shere posted:Reminder that RBG had a second cancer diagnosis in 2009 at age 76 or so and didn't retire and then also seemed to expect to have Clinton crown her replacement. democrats begged RBG to retire while obama was president and democrats still held the senate, so openly people started getting pissed off at them on rbg's behalf
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I don't know about you all, but I think the guys who love super PACs and use them all the time and cram them full of their idiot offspring and lackeys and hangers-on and are a pillar of their intricate machine that funnels money into their election campaigns so Shell Oil and Aetna and Monsanto executives take them to nice dinners and set aside lucrative consulting work for them and their families, those guys are definitely gonna overturn Citizens United if they can just get the senate seats and judge appointments!!!
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evilweasel posted:democrats begged RBG to retire while obama was president and democrats still held the senate, so openly people started getting pissed off at them on rbg's behalf Sounds like you know who you should be directing your ire at then, not the voters.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Not if the Democrats have their way! The Dem vs Republican approach to the filibuster can be summed up as 
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Not if the Democrats have their way! The tweet mentions Coons and re-instating the judicial filibuster, but the article is about removing the general filibuster in the Senate. I'm not seeing a direct connection here.
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Shere posted:Sounds like you know who you should be directing your ire at then, not the voters. it might be oddly unique in this thread, which unfortunately i can believe, but i am fully capable of saying "rbg should have retired in 2012" and "if a republican is elected in 2020 they will likely be able to replace rbg"
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No, I agree, I just don't find the argument compelling because it's yet another hostage being brought to us by liberals who can't run the country for poo poo around their massive egos. e: I'm plenty aware of what happened. The fact that RBG had support from anyone politically aligned with her for not retiring as a septuagenarian with cancer when apparently literally everything hangs in the balance of who gets to replace what seat is ridiculous. It's not a leverage chip in 2020 for voting for a rapist because Democrats are bad at politics. Sorry. Solanumai fucked around with this message at 17:55 on May 8, 2020 |
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Shere posted:Reminder that RBG had a second cancer diagnosis in 2009 at age 76 or so and didn't retire and then also seemed to expect to have Clinton crown her replacement. and of course the Dems controlled the Senate all the way up until 2014, so it's not like there wasn't a loving 5 year period where she could have been easily replaced* (*assuming the Dems didn't make a voluntary decision to give up the seat, which is by no no means a certainty, but is also not a reason to keep voting for the same gaggle of utterly useless chucklefucks) a keep observer will also note that 2014-2016 was only 1/4 of the Obama presidency, but somehow ~1/4 of the total federal judiciary is now made up of Trump administration appointments for ~some reason~ and of course Joe and his surrogates are vocally interested in bringing back the filibuster (as an excuse for inaction) and very pointedly disinterested in even beginning to address this situation if you care about the courts its probably better not to throw your support behind people who manifestly do not LGD fucked around with this message at 17:59 on May 8, 2020 |
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:I don't know about you all, but I think the guys who love super PACs and use them all the time and cram them full of their idiot offspring and lackeys and hangers-on and are a pillar of their intricate machine that funnels money into their election campaigns so Shell Oil and Aetna and Monsanto executives take them to nice dinners and set aside lucrative consulting work for them and their families, those guys are definitely gonna overturn Citizens United if they can just get the senate seats and judge appointments!!! Same. We should absolutely vote for the most right wing of those guys, consistently, so that they're able to sell their political project of providing a barely convincing almost pro-wrestling tier fight against capital and the far right to their donors. Maybe, after losing countless elections nationwide, it will work this time. You and I just have to -believe- hard enough. They're good people. We matter. evilweasel posted:it's going to be a 6-3 court if biden wins, most likely fyp Marxalot fucked around with this message at 18:17 on May 8, 2020 |
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They just make the proposition sound so enticing. This messaging makes me so excited to vote for Joe Biden.
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Willo567 posted:Do you believe he was actually serious Neither was Trump about bombing nk since he didn't do it did he. Also lol if Trump suggested a drone strike on Rosie ODonnel liberals would flip their poo poo and cry that it's proof of mental instability. But Obama does it and haha it's just a funny joke! Ha, the President murdering teenagers, what a laugh riot, see it's funny because he really did murder kids younger than them who pissed him off less, so it's not even an empty threat haha it's something he would actually do! Comedy gold!
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:They just make the proposition sound so enticing. This messaging makes me so excited to vote for Joe Biden. lol but I am voting
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evilweasel posted:democrats begged RBG to retire while obama was president and democrats still held the senate, so openly people started getting pissed off at them on rbg's behalf sounds like RBG is a stupid piece of poo poo (who is also probably racist af) and should be blamed for giving trump her seat rather than voters
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evilweasel posted:democrats begged RBG to retire while obama was president and democrats still held the senate, so openly people started getting pissed off at them on rbg's behalf Yeah you're conceding that they don't really give a poo poo about the court then since  Democrats got pissed at activists for trying to save the court.Anyway Obama had an opportunity to flip the court in 2016 and he did nothing, so it's obviously not important and bringing up the court as a reason to elect the guy who helped lose it is dumb.
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VitalSigns posted:Neither was Trump about bombing nk since he didn't do it did he. Don't equate threatening to bomb a harmless boy band to threatening to bomb a country that's routinely threatened to destroy South Korea, Japan and the U.S., you jackass.
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At what point are we allowed to opt out of a clearly broken, corrupt and useless party? The supreme court will always be a potential hazard and if that's not the explicit hostage something else will be. Meanwhile the world gets warmer.
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Sad Billionaire posted:At what point are we allowed to opt out of a clearly broken, corrupt and useless party? The supreme court will always be a potential hazard and if that's not the explicit hostage something else will be. oh i'd say about four years ago
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Willo567 posted:Don't equate threatening to bomb a harmless boy band to threatening to bomb a country that's routinely threatened to destroy South Korea, Japan and the U.S., you jackass. both would have been about as effective at moving us toward a more peaceful world
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May 8, 2020 18:05
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i remember the epic memes that came out of the booker campaign like and uhhhh
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:They just make the proposition sound so enticing. This messaging makes me so excited to vote for Joe Biden. I made this exact analogy a while back, except that voting for Biden is like essential oils because you heard from a friend on facebook that the vaccine will turn you into Venezuela.
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May 8, 2020 18:08
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:They just make the proposition sound so enticing. This messaging makes me so excited to vote for Joe Biden. Joe Biden is a marginally less lethal form of cancer. Your health insurance party doesn't cover cancer removal, but they're happy to give you the option of this alternative cancer which by the way you will have to thank them for and continue to pay for treatment. A bunch of people online will happily spend hours talking about how while it'd be nice to not have cancer (which is an option, I mean the cancer's right there and everyone could simply choose to take it out if we'd all agree rather than swapping another cancer in), that's probably what Russia wants and actually having this Biden cancer is a step towards maybe having even a slightly less lethal cancer someday. Just look at the progression of cancers we've had in the past (discussion of the cancers in the past is not allowed). They claim not being in favor of Biden cancer means you're secretly in favor of Trump cancer. Also Joe Biden cancer rapes you.
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B B posted:Joe Biden is a rapist. See you in six hours
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May 8, 2020 18:09
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I think Biden is prayer, because they’re going to end up blaming us for our insufficient enthusiasm when we die.
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Willo567 posted:Don't equate threatening to bomb a harmless boy band to threatening to bomb a country that's routinely threatened to destroy South Korea, Japan and the U.S., you jackass. Yeah you're right threatening to bomb a harmless boy band is considerably more unhinged
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B B posted:Joe Biden is a rapist. Could we just do what Dan Aykroyd did in Dragnet and refer him as The Rapist, Joe Biden? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtKUyfkBA2w
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VitalSigns posted:Yeah you're right threatening to bomb a harmless boy band is considerably more unhinged I wonder which is more unhinged: joking about bombing a boy band or genuinely telling people to drink disinfectant.
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