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Synthetic Dreams posted:what's the reasoning behind having elective surgeries this early into the pandemic anyways? pain usually
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tractor fanatic posted:Elective surgery can still be important treatment. It's not all cosmetic surgery. yeah, that's true. just kinda scary that people are gonna get opened up as a deadly virus is ravaging the country. some extended relatives had elective surgeries done this past year and they weren't doing so well afterwards, so I just thought it's a bit risky to be doing them when in all likelihood this summer is gonna be pretty bad with regards to an explosion of cases and ensuing deaths. Earwicker posted:pain usually yeah.
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May 8, 2020 17:08
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it's comparatively a pretty good time to be laid up after surgery assuming no complications and all that
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tractor fanatic posted:Elective surgery can still be important treatment. It's not all cosmetic surgery. Yeah my aunt got a breast cancer diagnosis at the start of the lockdown, it's so early stage that a mastectomy right now is considered elective surgery but there are pretty obvious reasons why she'd want to have it done before it becomes necessary (and two of her sisters have died of cancer so she considers the risk pretty high).
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May 8, 2020 17:13
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wyoak posted:it's comparatively a pretty good time to be laid up after surgery Yeah, this is also true. Many people who are still working are working from home so taking some time off to recover from surgery matters much less than pre-epidemic. If people aren't working, then they have nothing to do so who cares if they're sleeping half of the day recovering because most people don't have normal day-to-day responsibilities during this crisis.
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wyoak posted:it's comparatively a pretty good time to be laid up after surgery a buddy of mine's wife is having spinal surgery on tuesday after years of trying to treat it every other possible way he can't visit her in the hospital afterwards because of covid so, not really, naw, especially when combined with the elevated risk of catching something that comes with just inhabiting a hospital for any amount of time
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May 8, 2020 17:21
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She’s probably going to have an extended recovery time at home after dismissal, though. That’s the part where it’s now convenient.
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May 8, 2020 17:24
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elective usually means better profit margin on the surgery. lotta hospitals on the brink of bamkruptcy
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Synthetic Dreams posted:yeah, that's true. just kinda scary that people are gonna get opened up as a deadly virus is ravaging the country. some extended relatives had elective surgeries done this past year and they weren't doing so well afterwards, so I just thought it's a bit risky to be doing them when in all likelihood this summer is gonna be pretty bad with regards to an explosion of cases and ensuing deaths. my wife had surgery in early february and we were really, really lucky she got that timeslot else she'd be spending the summer in intense pain. but it was still elective surgery. elective just means planned in advance as opposed than being scraped up off the side of the road in an ambulance, it can still be important or even life saving
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Lodin posted:Good news, the massage parlour near me has opened up. While Norway has been pretty loosy goosey about what businesses can stay open I can't believe this is ok. Contemplating snitching to the cops. Snitches get... no happy end.
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Synthetic Dreams posted:what's the reasoning behind having elective surgeries this early into the pandemic anyways? it seems like a big mistake given the likelihood of a late May-June increase in COVID cases. I mean, I'm originally from Illinois. Cook county is the big boss of the state wrt population, and the rest of the state is kinda loving.. i don't know how to describe it, but i don't think social distancing & face masks are gonna be really taken seriously as the state reopens. bob dobbs is dead posted:elective usually means better profit margin on the surgery. lotta hospitals on the brink of bamkruptcy My wife works for the hospital here in IT and they send daily info on the state of the hospital. Since they've cancelled elective surgeries, they've had a loss of $2-3.5 million per day. E: this is a "non-profit" hospital.  at the idea of the executives not getting bonuses though.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:elective usually means better profit margin on the surgery. lotta hospitals on the brink of bamkruptcy Yeah, for-profit hospitals are announcing furloughs and salary cuts even after multi-tens-of-millions bailouts because they're teetering https://www.masslive.com/capecod/20...m_medium=social quote:Cape Cod Healthcare will furlough more than 600 employees amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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Quebec's government went from "we're closing everything, sorry but this is major we're shutting down every loving thing" to "well, we need to open up because the kids need to see their friends and grandparents" while our curve just keeps going up and up... they had a ridiculous amount of support when we started, which is quite amazing because gently caress the CAQ (the neo-liberal nationalist party in power), but now their position is basically "yeah, a lot of you will get sick and some will die but let's open up". 20 minutes until the daily presser. You fuckers want to put me back to work in this context I'm getting on welfare, gently caress it.
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unpacked robinhood posted:Enjoy our defective merch gently caress, we have 500,000 unsold mouse pads! What do we do with these?
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Lodin posted:Good news, the massage parlour near me has opened up. While Norway has been pretty loosy goosey about what businesses can stay open I can't believe this is ok. Contemplating snitching to the cops. I've noticed that massage providers are *always* on the list of "businesses that open up first" along with nail salons and hairdressers, I guess husbands have got to have somewhere to go while the missus is at the hairdressers. (TBH if it's not just a brothel, traditional Thai massage probably *could* be done safely - it's normally done clothed, so the same precautions as a healthcare provider, hairdresser or manicurist would have to take would probably be fine - might lack a certain je ne sais quoi but robes, gloves, masks and proper washing should protect both therapist and patient)
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MSNBC just reported some staff will begin wearing masks in the WH. They haven’t been?
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Barudak posted:Please cough
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Are the "open up now!" people just uniformly in denial about the severity of the issue or what? Because like so many things these days, the dumbest people are the loudest and thus have an outsized effect on the conversation. The majority of folks (in both parties! at least in the US) still favor restrictions, meaning that the only kinds of people going to open movie theaters or sit-down restaurants etc. are going to be the diehards or the ignorami. And of course the poor staff who are stuck there.
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I saw a sign for a garage sale a few minutes ago. Some not-insane person had ripped it out of the ground and tossed it into street. I salute you, person trying to fight disease!
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Zugzwang posted:Are the "open up now!" people just uniformly in denial about the severity of the issue or what? while no one is still claiming that the virus is a "hoax", there is still a major narrative being pushed that the Mainstream Media is deliberately exaggerating the virus in order to get people to submit to Government Control - referring not to the actual government led by the guy pushing this exact same narrative and yelling "open up now!", but a different, shadow government called the Deep State and/or evil liberal governors like Newsom. while this narrative doesn't necessarily make a whole lot of sense, that doesn't really matter, it's got a lot of emotional appeal and it's an easy sell with a patriotic spin and while yes, there is also the matter that many people are financially desperate to go back to work, addressing this through cancelling rent and mortgages, combined with regular income from the government at least through summer, plus other forms of debt reduction would go way, way further than a major reopening. many of the people who are pushing the above narrative are very much aware of this, and that's why the narrative is being pushed and funded by the likes of the Koch and de Vos families. Earwicker fucked around with this message at 18:24 on May 8, 2020 |
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As others have said, even "non-profit" hospitals need electives to stay alive. A lot of hospitals are also paying furlough pay to employees and have had to dump a ton of cash into massive amounts of PPE. Electives are the way that hospitals stay afloat, especially in Illinois where public aid patients are a huge net loss because the state Medicaid is literally years behind on payments. I mostly do ortho rehab, and a lot of patients are either A) older people who have been putting off joint replacements and can't even walk on land, so it's pretty necessary to improve health outcomes, or B) non-emergency injuries for workers comp cases for low grade rotator cuff tears, labral tears, etc. This isn't counting other "electives" such as certain cancer treatments, mammectomies, etc that aren't immediate trauma cases. As lovely as it is that our CEO is the top paid medical CEO in the entire midwest by orders of magnitude, all executive staff has taken a 50% paycut in an attempt to keep paying and utilizing workers in different areas. The hospital is devoting specific floors and wings to electives however now that covid hospitalizations are down, and all patients need to test negative for covid before being allowed to have the surgery.
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Synthetic Dreams posted:yeah, that's true. just kinda scary that people are gonna get opened up as a deadly virus is ravaging the country. some extended relatives had elective surgeries done this past year and they weren't doing so well afterwards, so I just thought it's a bit risky to be doing them when in all likelihood this summer is gonna be pretty bad with regards to an explosion of cases and ensuing deaths. Like a lot of things, I think location is important here. For a lot of regions of the country covid hasn't arrived yet. Lockdowns have largely kept it confined to specific urban areas. Better to get your surgery done before the lockdowns are inevitably lifted and the virus becomes endemic everywhere.
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Happy Hedonist posted:MSNBC just reported some staff will begin wearing masks in the WH. They haven’t been? Not at all
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Not at all It's personal responsibility. If you want to wear one you can, but lets not scare the customers.
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Zugzwang posted:Are the "open up now!" people just uniformly in denial about the severity of the issue or what? It's the idea that the only way the US won't completely collapse is by the government instituting social programs, which breaks their brains because it goes against everything that the right-wing talking heads have conditioned them to believe for the last 20+ years. Their worldview is collapsing in front of them, and, rather than admit that the system has serious structural flaws, their reaction is to double down on the bootstraps bullshit because they really want to believe that if the restaurants and barber shops open back up, everything will just magically spring back to normal, except that's obviously not going to happen.
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Gildiss posted:Had family today say that the covid death numbers are being massaged because 'They get paid more from covid deaths' Yep, one of my sisters is going all in on this theory. I tried explaining that the number of deaths of all sorts are up, not just Covid deaths, but she wasn't having any of it. She also just decided to move from LA to Austin, because Texas is opening up so everything is obviously fine there, unlike California.
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Number goes up. Bigly numbers! The best numbers, many people have said so! https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1258810707325390849
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Yeah even public hospitals in Canada are feeling the pinch. Like even if the government is paying for things you still charge stuff to provincial health plans per procedure. And like while the province and the feds are helping out, it's not like hospitals were flush with money before this. Outside of that, funding hasn't kept up with population growth (or aging) for a long time. There's also a lot of talk of furloughing people like research staff because things like clincal trials pay on a per participant basis and if there's no studies running, then there's no money coming in to pay the researchers. Also public institutions like hospitals are explicitly exempt from the government wage subsidy so there's no help there.
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Earwicker posted:and while yes, there is also the matter that many people are financially desperate to go back to work, addressing this through cancelling rent and mortgages, combined with regular income from the government at least through summer, plus other forms of debt reduction would go way, way further than a major reopening. many of the people who are pushing the above narrative are very much aware of this, and that's why the narrative is being pushed and funded by the likes of the Koch and de Vos families. The fact that rent and mortgage payments weren't paused nationally from April until like September is the most hosed up thing, but welcome to our terrible joke of a nation. Will be very "interesting" just to see how many people lost their homes and apartments by the end of the summer because the federal government did absolutely nothing. Might end up being worse than the 2008 financial crisis. Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 19:15 on May 8, 2020 |
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Props to Walgreens! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHwh1DMU4II
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Number goes up. Bigly numbers! The best numbers, many people have said so! Never before have we had such a reasonable, informed leader. Look at how quickly he adapts and responds to new information. Marvel at his dismissal of past statements he himself made based on erroneous statistics. He truly lives in the present. Facts don't care about your feelings; he's just giving the information to us, the public, as he sees it, so that we may feel informed and secure under his protectorate. He is truly showing us the world as it is, not as how "scientists" and "doctors" and their "math" may see it. This is what they will tell themselves.
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Earwicker posted:while no one is still claiming that the virus is a "hoax", Dont be naive
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Dont be naive Everything else in that post is dead-on, though.
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Random Stranger posted:I saw a sign for a garage sale a few minutes ago. There's a lot of people who've lost their jobs and are having to sell whatever they can to try and survive.
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Dont be naive ok maybe not literally no one but its no longer a major narrative being pushed except way in the fringes. "its just a flu" or even "sure maybe it's deadly but that doesn't matter sorry grandma" is now way more common from the same people who used to say it was a hoax.
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spacetoaster posted:There's a lot of people who've lost their jobs and are having to sell whatever they can to try and survive. There have been some great deals on Facebook marketplace, etc. Great time to buy nice, lightly used items.
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Untrustable posted:That security guard getting shot at a dollar store has me shook. I work security at the casino. How many people am I going to send into a murderous rage by requesting they follow simple rules? I have to go have my front 4 teeth removed July 3rd due to an accident a couple months ago but I might have them removed at the casino for free. Gambling addicts are monsters. Entitled, indolent monsters. I re-filed unemployment and I'll see where that goes. I'm generally feeling pretty hopeless about my situation. Gambling addicts are monsters yes. Asian people overall are far more used to masks because their use has been customary, if you have a must be wearing masks policy the bitch is going to be the white boomers at slots with it pulled down to smoke, play, and of course they are going to yell at you, they are losing money. As you already know you really should get out NOW--- yelling at you could be like a bullet  Do it unless your baby will literally starve to death or smth near that. I've always followed your posts with angst because I was an addicted gambler in casinos for years and years You will v likely catch this at a casino. I hope so badly you can quit. Be a security guard somewhere else, anywhere else. Good luck friend goon.
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Beachcomber posted:Giving serious thought to trying to give myself a buzz cut with my electric shaver. Lots of people will have "covid haircuts" sooner or later. Everyone should be, it's hard to gently caress up a buzz cut or a full trim -- get something like this, don't put on any guards and go to town -- https://www.amazon.com/Wahl-Profess...ps%2C162&sr=8-3 I recommend wireless because the cord can be a hassle when you try to reach certain angles (don't lose the charger tho, i always lose chargers)
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