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wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!
I think the one I gained the most appreciation for after rereading as an adult was Rachel. Reading the series as a preteen boy I didn't really identify with or care about her "let's go shopping!" characterization. But she is the most committed to the cause and the one who seems to "get it" right away.

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QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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wizzardstaff posted:

I think the one I gained the most appreciation for after rereading as an adult was Rachel. Reading the series as a preteen boy I didn't really identify with or care about her "let's go shopping!" characterization. But she is the most committed to the cause and the one who seems to "get it" right away.

For sure, I remember liking the contrast of the shopping stuff with her brutality, but aside from that she didn't do much for me as a kid. But even in the first book she narrates, we get a huge amount of emotional depth with all of the Melissa stuff which drives home her whole deal. She is a really great character which makes what happens to her in the end that much worse. The last line she gets is so devastating.

OctaviusBeaver
Apr 30, 2009

Say what now?

PetraCore posted:

Yes, Cassie is a perfectly interesting character and a necessary element in a group of people doing increasingly terrible things, but it also felt when I read as a kid that she was the one typically framed to have the 'right' perspective, which gets grating. As an adult, it's interesting in that on the surface she's least suited to being a child soldier of the 5 of them, yet she's not reluctant the way Marco is - she knows what she's fighting for basically instantly and is willing to kill for it even as early as book 1, while trying not to minimize the moral implications. That's cool!

I agree with the point about her being right a lot in a way that doesn't feel earned. I think my main problem with it, especially later in the series, is that the other animorphs argue for a pragmatic choice and Cassie argues for a more moral choice, and then later it turns out that Cassie's ethical plan is also the best strategically. Real life isn't like that, making moral choices frequently puts you at a disadvantage vs people that don't, especially in war. It's a copout that the ethical choice also always happens to be the pragmatic one in a war of extermination.

disaster pastor
May 1, 2007


OctaviusBeaver posted:

I think my main problem with it, especially later in the series, is that the other animorphs argue for a pragmatic choice and Cassie argues for a more moral choice, and then later it turns out that Cassie's ethical plan is also the best strategically.

This is exactly it, thank you. There's a formula for several of her books that's essentially, "here are multiple sides to this interesting problem, which has no right answer! But Cassie's right."

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
Chapter 6

quote:

Jake had a peregrine falcon morph we'd used before. Marco and Cassie had morphed ospreys. Rachel had been a bald eagle. So we all should have been able to fly up to the mountains. But there are millions of bird-watchers in this country. They're very cool people because they never hurt a bird. They don't hunt. They just get pleasure out of watching birds fly or nest. Bird-watchers would think it was very, very weird if they saw a red-tail hawk, a bald eagle, a falcon, and two ospreys all flying together as if they were on a mission.

And some of those gentle bird-watchers might be not-so-gentle Controllers.

If you haven't noticed, Tobias's entire morality now comes down to "Will this person hurt birds"?

quote:

"Bird-watchers!" Marco snorted as he tramped over the carpet of pine needles deeper into the woods. "We could fly, but no. No, we have to walk. Twenty miles, probably!"

Cassie's farm has a lot of open grass areas, and it borders on a national forest. The national forest goes on forever. It stretches from the edge of town all the way up into the mountains. It's all pines and oaks and elms and birches. Wilderness, really. Thousands of square acres of it.

"Oh, come on, Marco," Cassie chided gently. "It's an opportunity to try out a new morph!"

"Yeah," Jake chided. "Instead of being home doing math homework, you get to turn into a wolf. Are you going to tell me you'd rather be doing equations?"

"Let's see," Marco considered. "Math? Or becoming a wolf and going off to find aliens? Maybe I should ask the school counselor what she thinks.' It's such a common problem. I'm sure she'd have some good advice."

Since it wasn't a good idea for us all to travel to the mountains as birds, the others needed a morph that could travel far and fast through woods. And there were the two injured wolves in Cassie's barn . . .

Jake stopped, looked around, and announced, "This is good." We were a few hundred yards into the woods. I came to rest on a low branch of a huge oak tree. The hawk in me took note of a squirrel a few branches up. He started chittering and shrieking his little squirrel warning: Danger! Danger!
Hawk! Hawk!

I gave him a look. He twitched, stuck the acorn he was holding into his cheek, and took off at full speed.

"What I don't get is why I have to be a girl wolf," Marco grumbled.

"We had one male and one female," Cassie explained for the tenth time. "If two of us morphed into the male, we'd have two males. Two male wolves might decide they had to fight for dominance."

"I could control it," Marco said.

"Marco, you and Jake already fight for dominance, and you're just ordinary guys," Rachel pointed out.

"She's right," Cassie said sadly. "I'm afraid your primitive male behavior might slow us down."

Fair enough.

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"Hey, when I morphed into a gorilla, I handled that gorilla brain okay, didn't I?" Marco demanded.

"Sure, Marco," Rachel said. She batted her eyes. "But that was different. You and the gorilla were already so much alike."

Cassie and Rachel gave each other discreet high-fives.

"Hugely funny," Marco said.

"We flipped a coin, fair and square," Jake said. "I got to be the male. You're one of the females. Get over it."

"Let me see that coin again," Marco said suspiciously.

Jake just smiled. "Let's just do this. Cassie, you want to go first, to see what it's like?"

We had learned from hard experience that morphing can be extremely disturbing. Jake had morphed into a lizard and been almost overpowered by the animal's fearful brain. The same had happened to Rachel when she'd morphed a shrew. She still had nightmares about the shrew experience - its fear and, worse, its hunger for bugs and rotting flesh.

On the other hand, Jake had morphed into a flea, and according to him it was kind of a big nothing. Like being trapped inside a very old, very bad video game where you could barely see anything. The flea brain had been too simple to make trouble.

"Okay. I'll let you know." Cassie closed her eyes and concentrated. Then she opened them again. "Wait. Let me get down to my morph suit first. I don't want to get tangled up in my clothes." She removed everything but a leotard, kicked off her shoes, and stood barefoot on the pine needles.

The first change was her hair. It went from very short black to shaggy silver in just a few seconds. It traveled down from her head, down her neck, over her shoulders, around her neck. Long, shaggy fur.

Then her nose bulged out.

I shuddered. You never really get used to seeing people morph. It is something straight out of a nightmare. Even though Cassie seems to have some kind of talent for it. She's never quite as gross as the others. I guess it's because she's so close to so many animals. Maybe she just has a special feel for them.

Still, as the wolf snout began to push out from her face, it was not a pleasant sight. Her ears grew furry and pointed. Then they slid straight up the side of her head till they almost touched on top.

Her eyes went from brown-black to golden brown.

All over her body, the fur replaced the bright pinks and greens of her leotard. A tail suddenly shot out from behind. I could hear the grinding of her bones as they rearranged. Her upper arms shortened. Her lower arms grew longer. Fingers shriveled and disappeared, leaving behind only stubby black nails,
There was a sickening crunch as her knees changed direction. Her legs shrank and thinned and grew fur.

Suddenly she fell forward, no longer able to stand erect.

It had taken about two minutes.

Cassie was now a wolf.

"How is it?" Jake asked.

Cassie jerked suddenly at the sound of his voice and spun around to face him. She bared her teeth and snarled a warning that would have made a Taxxon back up.

She had very impressive teeth.

"Let's all stand really still," Jake said.

"Good idea," Marco agreed. "Really, really still. Because those are really, really big teeth."

Everyone stood motionless. They had all been through similar experiences. We knew what was happening. Inside the wolf's head, Cassie was fighting to gain control of the wolf's wild instincts.

<Sorry,> she thought-spoke at last. <I have it now.>

"Are you sure?" Rachel asked warily.

<Yes, it's fine. I'm fine. In fact . . . it's really kind of wonderful! The sense of hearing. Wow! And my nose. Whoa, that's incredible. I've never morphed an animal with such a strong sense of smell.>

"Then I'm extra glad I put on deodorant," Marco joked.

<Who had bacon for breakfast?> Cassie turned her wolf head this way and that. <Rachel? Bacon? I thought you were going to go vegetarian!>

Marco laughed at the guilty look on Rachel's face. "Oooh, busted by Cassie the wonder-nose. "

"Let's get busy," Jake said. "The two-hour clock is now running. Tick-tock."

One by one they each stole a glance at me. I'm the handy reminder of what happens if you stay in a morph for too long

So there's definitely been this rift between Tobias and the rest of them.

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

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Asking yourself "Will this person hurt birds?" is an entirely acceptable basis of morality.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!
The little aside about "we have to fly apart from each other because bird-watchers would think it weird to see so many species together" is repeated in each book and gets kind of old, but there is a nice payoff in the final act of the series when they are able to identify morphed Controllers by their unnatural flocking behavior.

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

wizzardstaff posted:

The little aside about "we have to fly apart from each other because bird-watchers would think it weird to see so many species together" is repeated in each book and gets kind of old, but there is a nice payoff in the final act of the series when they are able to identify morphed Controllers by their unnatural flocking behavior.

There'd better be a similar payoff for thermals!

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Radio Free Kobold posted:

Asking yourself "Will this person hurt birds?" is an entirely acceptable basis of morality.

<Looks up from my turkey sandwich> Let me get back to you on that....

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

disaster pastor posted:

This is exactly it, thank you. There's a formula for several of her books that's essentially, "here are multiple sides to this interesting problem, which has no right answer! But Cassie's right."

Hmm, maybe. Though I seem to remember that her moral answers were sometimes shockingly ruthless, but it was just ruthless in a "this will be the best for all, even if some people have to eat poo poo for it". But yeah I do feel she was perfectly fine and interesting. ... But I just really related to Marco, Tobias, [Insert Spoiler Here], and Rachel more. Rachel and Marco for pure relation though.

mareep
Dec 26, 2009

As a nerd kid who morphed into a nerd adult, it drives me nuts that it’s always written as ‘the knees reversing direction’ when they morph quadrupeds. Really the knees are just much higher up, closer to the body, and the ‘reverse knees’ are analogous to human heels.

This has been AnimalFacts. (Still sticks out to me since obviously a lot of devotion was given to exploring animal cognition and their real realities, like mentioning that cats see color when the book came out around a time when I think most people still thought they couldn’t.)

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

They should just all morph some wild ducks.

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

Kchama posted:

Hmm, maybe. Though I seem to remember that her moral answers were sometimes shockingly ruthless, but it was just ruthless in a "this will be the best for all, even if some people have to eat poo poo for it". But yeah I do feel she was perfectly fine and interesting. ... But I just really related to Marco, Tobias, [Insert Spoiler Here], and Rachel more. Rachel and Marco for pure relation though.

Yeah isn’t it Cassie who comes up with what they should do with David? If anything it’s a fate worse than death.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
The Encounter-Chapter 7

quote:

I was jealous.

I mean, okay, if you ever have to be stuck as an animal, I think being a hawk is the coolest choice of all.

But still, I was jealous. My friends were really enjoying being wolves. I guess it was a strange experience for them.

I flew above the forest, skimming the treetops, while down below they ran. They moved so fast it wasn't always easy for me to keep up. Not that their actual speed was so great. It's just that they never stopped. Never rested. They just moved at a constant twenty miles an hour or so. Over fallen logs. Between trees. Under bushes. Nothing even slowed them down.

Well, actually, that's not completely true. Two things slowed them down a little.

One was Jake. He was the dominant male. In wolf packs that's called an "alpha." So he had a special wolf job to perform.

<Jake, just how many more times are you going to pee?> Rachel demanded after his fifth stop.

<I . . . I don't know. I kind of have to do it a lot,> he admitted.

<Why? Did you drink too much soda before we left?>

<I don't know,> he admitted. <I just keep getting this urge to pee.>

<You're scent marking,> Cassie explained. <You're marking out a territory.>

<I am?>

<Yes, you are. It's normal. For a dominant wolf. At least that's what my wolf book said. Although it's a little gross for the rest of us to have to watch.>

The other thing that slowed them down was when they stopped once and started to howl. It was Jake who started it. It caught everyone by surprise. Including Jake himself.

"OWWW-OOOOOOO-yow-yow-OOOOOO. "

<What the - > Marco started to say, but then he was doing it, too. "Yow-yow-OOWWOOOOO!"

Cassie and Rachel weren't far behind.

"OOOOO-yowww-OWW-OOOOOOO!"

I heard the yowling, of course, so I took a quick turn around a tree and headed back to them. <What are you people doing?> I demanded. <We're in a hurry here. You guys can only stay in morph for two hours. Why are you wasting time howling?>

<I don't know,> Jake admitted sheepishly. <I just suddenly felt like it would be a good idea.>

<Once he started I . . . I kind of felt like I should join in,> Rachel said.

<I think it's a way to warn all the other wolves that we're here, so we don't run into any other packs and get in fights,> Cassie suggested. Which sounded perfectly reasonable. Until you saw that "Cassie" had her head tilted back and her snout pointed at the sky and was yodeling like an idiot.

I flapped my wings and broke out from under the trees. The city and the suburbs were far behind me now. We had traveled pretty far in an hour's time. It was about the same time of day as my second sighting of the invisible ship. The time when it had been heading toward the mountains. I swooped back down into the trees. <You guys keep moving. I'm going up top to look around.>

<Be careful,> Rachel said.

I banked left around a tree, then flapped my way back up into the sun. I climbed hard and fast, using a lot of energy. The exercise helped distract me. It's hard feeling sorry for yourself when you're working out big time.

After a while I was able to catch a nice thermal and get some easy altitude. I could still see the little wolf pack, moving like it had a single mind, flowing around the trees, swift and sure. I tried to imagine what it must be like to be a wolf. The amazing sense of smell. The incredible hearing. All that confident power, those ripping teeth, the cool intelligence.

Maybe later I would ask Jake or Rachel about it.

Then you could ask them what it was like to be human. Maybe they can tell me about that, too, I thought bitterly.

Stop it, Tobias, I ordered myself. Stop it.

I guess I felt that if I ever started to feel really sorry for myself, I might never stop.

He says that, though, but as you can tell, he does feel sorry for himself.

quote:

I kept a sharp eye out on the sky above, but it was probably still too early for the ship to come. If it even came. There was no reason to think it kept some kind of schedule.

Then, down below, I saw something that caught my attention. There was a convoy of trucks and Jeeps moving along a narrow, snaking dirt road. Maybe five vehicles. They had the markings of the Park Service. But they seemed to be in a big hurry.

They drove to a lake that I had just glimpsed up ahead. By the shore of the lake, they pulled off the road. Then, to my surprise, several dozen uniformed men jumped from the trucks and began to fan out through the woods.

They were carrying guns. But not rifles or even pistols. I could see them clearly. They were carrying automatic weapons.

Suddenly, movement in the sky! What the-

To my left I spotted a pair of helicopters. They zipped just inches above the trees. They began to circle the lake. These also had Park Service markings.

This is all wrong, I told myself. These guys don't act or move like Park Rangers. These guys move like an army.

And as I watched, half a dozen of the armed men surrounded a small patch of bright yellow. It was a tent.

Two people - they looked like college types - were cooking over a little fire outside the tent. I could see the expressions of total amazement and fear when they suddenly realized they were surrounded by six men with automatic weapons.

The two campers were marched back to the nearest truck and driven away at high speed. I don't know what story the two campers were told. Maybe the Park Rangers told them there was a dangerous fugitive in the area. Or maybe they said there was a forest fire. I don't know. I just know those two campers were out of there before they knew what hit them.

The two choppers circled the lake. Then they landed in a small clearing at the far side of the lake at the same time.

It was more than a mile away. Far, even for my hawk's eyes, in the slanting light of afternoon. But I could still see what came out of those helicopters.

Out they leaped, one after another.

Seven feet tall. The most dangerous-looking creatures you'll ever want to see. Foot-long, razor-sharp blades raked forward from their snake heads. More blades at their elbows, wrists, and knees. Feet like Tyrannosaurus rex.

The shock troops of the Yeerks.

Hork-Bajir warriors.

So Yeerk presence confirmed.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
The Encounter-Chapter 8

quote:

<Hork-Bajir!>

The first time I'd seen them was at the construction site. I was still fully human then. It was while Visser Three was taunting the fallen Andalite. The five of us had been cowering behind a low wall. A Hork-Bajir had been within a few feet of us.

The Andalite told us they had once been a good people, the Hork-Bajir. That despite their fearsome appearance, they were a gentle race.

But the Hork-Bajir were all Controllers now. They all carried the Yeerk slug in their brains. And they were no longer gentle.

I made a sharp turn back. I had to warn the others. I passed over a group of the Park Rangers, and swooped low enough to read one man's watch. My friends had been in morph for more than an hour.

Great. Low on time, and the Hork-Bajir are here.

I soon spotted the wolf pack, still trotting along resolutely, never tiring. Pausing only for Jake to pee.

I dived toward them. Just over their heads I pulled up suddenly.

"Yowl! Yip! Rrawr!"

They yelped and scampered around. Jake bared his fangs at me.

I came to rest on a decayed log.

Instantly, as if on command, the others started fanning out around me, encircling me. The five of them were acting like a wolf pack surrounding prey. In their own way they kind of reminded me of Hork-Bajir.

<Hey, it's just me, relax,> I said.

No answer. Jake snarled a brief command at one of the others.

Wait a minute. Five? Five wolves?

Jake, who wasn't really Jake, leaped at me.

Whoa!

Wolves don't usually hurt humans, but they will definitely eat a bird when they're hungry enough. And one thing you don't ever want to see is a hungry wolf, yellowed fangs bared, gold-brown eyes glaring, fur bristling, coming at you.

I flapped my wings hard.

The big male wolf went shooting past. Barely. But the rest were all around me!

I flapped again and got airborne, but just a few inches. I was skimming wildly over the pineneedle carpet, flapping for all I was worth, with five determined wolves hot on my tail.

Well, that's embarrassing. Wrong wolfpack.

quote:

SWOOOOM! I caught the tiniest headwind, but it was all I needed.

I was up! Up and out of there, while the wolves yowled and snapped their powerful jaws in frustration below me.

Ten minutes later I found a second wolf pack. This time I counted. Four wolves.

Still, I was cautious. <Is that you guys?>

<Who else would it be?> Marco asked.

<Don't ask,> I said. <Look, we have trouble.> I flapped down to a low branch and rested my wings. I was still a little shaken up from my close call with the wrong wolves.

<There's a lake just a little way ahead. It's crawling with Park Rangers who aren't really Park Rangers.>

<Yeah, I thought I smelled water. And humans,> Cassie said.

<How do you know they aren't real Park Rangers?> Jake asked.

<Because real Park Rangers don't carry machine guns,> I said. <Plus, they don't hang around with Hork-Bajir.>

<Hork-Bajir?> Cassie asked shakily. <You're sure?>

<Oh yeah,> I said. <It's kind of hard to confuse them with anything else. The Park Rangers are clearing out the area around the lake. They hustled some campers out of there real fast. At gunpoint.>

<Hork-Bajir,> Marco said with distaste. <I really don't like those guys.>

Rachel asked, <This lake, it's in the same direction your big invisible ship was moving?>

<It's in a perfectly straight line,> I said. <Whatever that ship was, I'd bet anything it was heading for that lake.>

<And judging by the way you say these Park-Ranger Controllers and Hork-Bajir are acting, it's on its way again,> Marco said thoughtfully.

<I'll tell you one thing,> I said. <These guys all looked like they'd done this many times before. You know what I mean? Like this was a real common routine. They had it down.>

<We don't have a lot of time left in morph,> Jake said. <But it would be a shame to miss the chance to find out what this is all about.>

<I say go for it,> Rachel said.

<You always say go for it,> Marco muttered. <If just once you would say, 'Hey, let's not do this,' it would make me so happy.>

<You have about forty minutes left,> I told them. <The lake is about five minutes away.>

<Okay. Let's go. But in and out fast,> Jake warned. <Just enough to see what's going on.> They took off, with Jake in the lead. <Remember, just act like wolves.>

<Yeah, so if anyone sees the Three Little Pigs, don't forget to huff and puff,> Marco said.

I went airborne again, but this time I stayed close by.

<Park Rangers just ahead,> I said.

<Yeah, I can definitely smell them now,> Rachel replied. <And hear them, too.>

<Okay, look, wolves would try to steer clear of humans,> Cassie advised. <So a little slinking would be perfectly normal.>

They moved in a cautious circle around the phony Park Rangers. But I could see that the Rangers had spotted them. They tensed up, then relaxed when they saw it was just a wolf pack minding its own business.

I decided to get some altitude. Unfortunately, since there were no convenient thermals, I had to flap my way up. I was a few thousand yards high, able to see my friends and the lake, when I felt its presence again.

I looked up.

The invisible wave. The slight ripple in the fabric of the sky. It was there. It was moving slowly overhead. Even more slowly than before.

And then, as I watched, it was invisible no more.

You know, for all of the worrying that the kids only have 40 minutes left before they have to change back, they are, for most of this, alone in the woods. There's nothing stopping them from changing back to human and then wolf again. I don't know if it's something the author didn't think about, or decided to ignore for the sake of dramatic tension (or more prosaically, thaat the kids didn't think about, but you'd think Marco would be all over it.)

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Finally, something about transforming into wolves that isn't racist.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

chitoryu12 posted:

Finally, something about transforming into wolves that isn't racist.

Shh...Twilight can't hurt you in this thread, buddy. It's ok. :)

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Epicurius posted:

The Encounter-Chapter 8
You know, for all of the worrying that the kids only have 40 minutes left before they have to change back, they are, for most of this, alone in the woods. There's nothing stopping them from changing back to human and then wolf again. I don't know if it's something the author didn't think about, or decided to ignore for the sake of dramatic tension (or more prosaically, thaat the kids didn't think about, but you'd think Marco would be all over it.)

To be fair there's no guarantee that there's nobody who might somehow stumble onto them in the long minutes while they morph to human and back, and they are still pretty new to this. In later books they figure out where they can stop to morph to and from if it's gonna take more than two hours, but they do seem to prefer getting there in one morph.

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

It’s neat to see Tobias’s affection and empathy for the Hork-Bajir even in his very first book

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!
So what book does Rachel die in? I just read a book where They let the Yeerks capture Tobias to intentionally take a shot from their Anti-Morphing Ray, because if he's in hawk morph and takes the hit it'll "prove" their machine doesn't work, and I could've sworn she was going to die in that one.

Also holy hell the torture and slowly feeding two humans to Taxxons to punish them for that AMR failure.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

biracial bear for uncut posted:

So what book does Rachel die in? I just read a book where They let the Yeerks capture Tobias to intentionally take a shot from their Anti-Morphing Ray, because if he's in hawk morph and takes the hit it'll "prove" their machine doesn't work, and I could've sworn she was going to die in that one.

Also holy hell the torture and slowly feeding two humans to Taxxons to punish them for that AMR failure.

It's the second-to-last book, isn't it?

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

wizzardstaff posted:

It's the second-to-last book, isn't it?

I don't know. I'm on book... 33, I think? I'll have to check again when I get home and open my ebook reader.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

wizzardstaff posted:

It's the second-to-last book, isn't it?

It's the second to last book,

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Kchama posted:

To be fair there's no guarantee that there's nobody who might somehow stumble onto them in the long minutes while they morph to human and back, and they are still pretty new to this. In later books they figure out where they can stop to morph to and from if it's gonna take more than two hours, but they do seem to prefer getting there in one morph.
Yeah but while it might take a bit longer total, they could also have half of them morph (to keep the other half with wolf-smell around) first and then switch sides. Also they've got Tobias around to keep an eye out, imperfect as that may be. Seems safer than gambling on having less than half the time in case they need to run or something. But like everyone's saying, they're also young teens.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
Chapter 9

quote:

<Don't act suspicious or freak,> I called down to the others. <But look up.>

<Oh my God,> Rachel gasped.

<It's . . . it's huge!> Cassie cried.

It was huge. But the word huge doesn't really begin to describe it.

Have you ever seen a picture of an oil tanker? Or maybe an aircraft carrier? That's what I mean by huge. Compared to this thing, the biggest jumbo jet ever built was a toy.

It was shaped like a manta ray. There was a bulging, fat portion in the middle, with swooped, curvy wings, one either side. On top of the wings were huge scoops, like air intakes on a fighter jet, but much bigger. You could suck a fleet of buses in through those scoops.

The only windows were in a small bulge at the top. The bridge, I realized. Focusing on it, I could see the shadowy shapes of Taxxons inside.

But mostly that ship was just big. Really big. As in, it blocked out the sun, it was so big. Suddenly, out from behind the ship, a pair of Bug fighters zipped into view. We had seen them before. They are small, for spaceships. You couldn't park one in your garage, but you could land it on your front lawn. They look like metal cockroaches with two serrated spearlike protrusions pointed forward on either side.

<I have Bug fighters up here,> I called down to the others, <A pair.>

<Who cares about Bug fighters?> Marco asked. <They're nothing compared to that . . . that whale!>

<The Bug fighters are circling the lake. I guess they're looking around for troubles

<Try not to look like trouble,> Jake advised dryly.

I did my best to look like a normal, harmless hawk. Doing normal hawk things. But the main ship was unbelievably intimidating. I mean, nothing that big should be floating in the air. Suddenly one of the Bug fighters went shooting right past me, low and slow. I could see in the window. Inside was the usual crew: one Hork-Bajir and one Taxxon.

The Taxxons are the second most common type of Controller. Imagine a very big centipede. Now imagine it even bigger, twice as long as a man. So big around, you couldn't get your arms around it if you wanted to give it a hug.

Not that you'd ever want to give it a hug. Taxxons are gross, disgusting creatures. Unlike the Hork-Bajir, who were enslaved against their will, Taxxons chose to turn their minds over to the Yeerk parasites. They are allies of the Yeerks. I don't know why, and I probably don't want to.

i think it's kind of interesting that Tobias is willing to sympathize with the Hork-Bajir, but isn't even interested in why the Taxxons do what they do.

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The Bug fighter shot past, not interested in me.

The huge main ship sank slowly down toward the surface of the lake. <Are you guys seeing this? It looks like it's going to land on the lake.>

<Are we seeing it? No. We've totally missed the fact that a spaceship the size of Delaware is hovering in midair.>

Marco, of course.

<It's incredible,> Rachel said. <Incredible.>

<You know, I hate to be a pessimist,> Marco said, <but when I look at that thing I get a bad feeling about our chances. Four hounds and a bird versus a ship the size of ldaho!>

<A minute ago it was just the size of Delaware,> Cassie pointed out mildly.

<What's it doing here? That's what I want to know,> Jake said.

They had reached the shore of the lake and were prowling along, looking like wolves should look. But they were also glancing regularly up at the massive ship. I worried a little that some Controller, human or Hork-Bajir, would notice that they were paying a little too much attention.

<You guys? Watch how you act. The Yeerks will be looking for any animals that act strangely,> I said. <They're on the lookout for Andalites who can morph.>

<He's right,> Marco agreed. <Jake? Start peeing on things again.>

<Very funny,> Jake said.

Then something began to happen. <Hey. Look!>

From the belly of the ship, a pipe began to lower into the water. Then a second pipe, and a third.

<They're like straws,> Cassie said. <They're drinking!>

I could hear the sucking sound. Thousands, maybe millions of gallons of water being sucked up into the ship.

<That's why it's so big,> Marco said. He laughed. <Well, well, well. What do you know? We have just discovered that the Yeerks have a great big weakness.>

<A weakness?> Rachel demanded. <You can look at that ship and talk about weakness?>

But I understood what Marco meant. <It means they need something,> I said.

<Exactly,> Marco said. <Those big scoops on the sides? I think those are for air. That's why they fly so far through the atmosphere when they come down. They're scooping up oxygen. And now they are sucking up water.>

<It's a truck!> Cassie cried. <That whole huge ship is really just a truck!>

<Yeah,> I said. <It carries air and water up to the Yeerk mother ship in orbit. I guess they need Earth to supply them.>

<So. It's not like Star Trek, where they can just make their own air and water,> Marco mused. <As long as they are up there in orbit, the Yeerks need the planet to supply them with air and water. Well, well. I think that's the first hopeful sign yet.>

<We're running low on time,> Cassie reminded everyone. <Time to get out of here.>

<Okay, but everyone be cool about it,> Jake advised. <We act like we're just sauntering off to go kill a moose - or whatever it is wolves saunter off to do.>

They drifted back from the shore of the lake. I stayed behind. I no longer have a time limit to worry about.

The Yeerk ship was creating a warm updraft, so I spread my wings-wide and rode it up. The two Bug fighters were still circling low and slow. On the shore all around the lake, the bogus Park Rangers and the few Hork-Bajir kept up their patrols.

I don't know. i think Yeerk logistics are pretty interesting.

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Then I saw her.

I know to human eyes, every hawk looks pretty much alike. But I knew-right away it was her - the hawk I had freed from the car dealer.

She, too, was riding the thermal, a thousand yards higher than me. Without even really thinking about it, I adjusted the angle of my wings and soared up toward her.

She saw me, I was sure of that. Hawks don't miss much of what goes on around them. She knew I was coming toward her, and she waited.
It wasn't like we were friends. Hawks don't know what "friend" means. And she certainly did not feel any gratitude toward me for saving her from captivity. Hawks don't have that sort of emotion, either. In fact, in her mind there may have been no connection between me and her freedom.
Still, I soared up to her. I don't know why. I really don't. All we shared was the same outer body. We both had wings. We both had talons. We both had feathers.

Suddenly I was afraid. I was afraid of her. And it was insane, because there I was, floating above an alien spaceship so big it could have been turned into a mall.

But it was the hawk that frightened me.

Or maybe not the hawk herself. Maybe it was the feeling I had, rising up to meet her in the sky. The feeling of recognition. The feeling of going home.

The feeling that I belonged with her. It hit me in a wave of disgust and horror.

No. NO!

I was Tobias. A human. A human being, not a bird!

I banked sharply away from-her.

I was human. I was a boy named Tobias. A boy with blond hair that was always a mess. A boy with human friends. Human interests.

But part of me kept saying, "It's a lie. It's a lie. You are the hawk. The hawk is you. Arid Tobias is dead."

I plummeted toward the ground. I folded my wings back and welcomed the sheer speed. Faster! Faster!

Then, with eyes that Tobias never had, I saw the wolf pack below. And I saw the danger before them.

Poor Tobias.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

Epicurius posted:

i think it's kind of interesting that Tobias is willing to sympathize with the Hork-Bajir, but isn't even interested in why the Taxxons do what they do.

I really liked the glimpse of the Taxxons that we saw in The Andalite Chronicles. Shame they didn't get their own book.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Epicurius posted:

Chapter 9
i think it's kind of interesting that Tobias is willing to sympathize with the Hork-Bajir, but isn't even interested in why the Taxxons do what they do.

I wonder if it has to do with the fact that he was trapped in morph, like the Hork-Bajir were enslaved by the Yeerks, but the Taxxons chose to be enslaved. Of course, that gets more complicated once Tobias chooses to remain as a hawk full time once he gets morph powers back, but when has Animorphs ever shied away from being complicated?

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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wizzardstaff posted:

I really liked the glimpse of the Taxxons that we saw in The Andalite Chronicles. Shame they didn't get their own book.
I don't remember much of that but I looked it up and I guess they're from an environment where their endless hunger is sated by constant feeding and presumably that plays an important ecological role even without getting into the weirdness of where they live? Still, I can see why that wouldn't exactly be satisfying for them, since their hunger means that's always going to be their primary drive despite them being perfectly sapient and it makes it hard to form lasting bonds with other people you'd eat alive if you got hungry enough.

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

Epicurius posted:

i think it's kind of interesting that Tobias is willing to sympathize with the Hork-Bajir, but isn't even interested in why the Taxxons do what they do.

Because Tobias inherited some of Elfangor's knowledge through their special mindmeld (presumably facilitated by the father-son connection) he may have also inherited some traditional Andalite views of the Yeerk subjects. Mainly that the Hork-Bajir were sympathetic dummies whose conquest was a tragedy whereas the Taxxons are just disgusting collaborators.

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

Makes me wonder how the yeerks even did their stuff before they got the Hork-Bajir and Taxxons. None of this tech seems the right size for small slugs.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

Avalerion posted:

Makes me wonder how the yeerks even did their stuff before they got the Hork-Bajir and Taxxons. None of this tech seems the right size for small slugs.

On their home planet the Yeerks infested a pre-spaceflight species called Geds which were like clumsy amphibious monkeys. An Andalite named Seerow took pity on the slugs and gave them the technology to get offworld, which did not work out great for everyone else. The Andalite version of the Prime Directive is named after him. Geds are still in use as Controllers but any upwardly mobile Yeerk is eager to leave them behind for bigger and better hosts.

That's all backstory, nothing that spoils the ongoing plot except that the revelation is a point of drama somewhere in the next several books.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





I think a question gets posed by a character soon, which in my opinion defines the entire series.

"How far into savagery do you go to defeat the savage?"

The answer for all bar one, is as far as you have to. Was Cassie wrong to give the Yeerks the morphing box?
From a tactical perspective, yes. Absolutely. It was just about the worst possible thing she could have done.
But, and I doubt I'll ever see this any other way, it was the right call.
That single act was her rejecting what the others were becoming. Jake all but destroyed himself, as shown post-war. Rachel died fighting.
Cassie didn't want to be the savage anymore. She tried to walk away once in the series as it was, and I think she understood that the Yeerks were not a monolithic, evil entity. They were just scared little slugs knowing they were at the mercy of anyone and everyone that had actual bodies. She gave them a way out, and she kept her humanity.

This is incredibly heavy poo poo for a supposed children's series.

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:

Because Tobias inherited some of Elfangor's knowledge through their special mindmeld (presumably facilitated by the father-son connection)

Um, um, what? This is what I get for stopping at Book Nine or something.
Can I get a few more spoiler-tastic details? Sounds rad.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Avalerion posted:

Makes me wonder how the yeerks even did their stuff before they got the Hork-Bajir and Taxxons. None of this tech seems the right size for small slugs.

Obviously, you can read the spoiler above, but if you don't want to be spoiled, you're going to get some of this information in about 5 or 6 books.

Epicurius fucked around with this message at 11:58 on May 13, 2020

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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Tree Bucket posted:

Um, um, what? This is what I get for stopping at Book Nine or something.
Can I get a few more spoiler-tastic details? Sounds rad.

I just read the book where this happens and it involves Tobias getting nearly tortured to death by Yeerks trying to get another morphing host until the other animorphs show up and save him.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Tree Bucket posted:

Um, um, what? This is what I get for stopping at Book Nine or something.
Can I get a few more spoiler-tastic details? Sounds rad.

If you really want to know. Long story short, when Elfangor is a cadet in the '70s, he saves a human woman from alien abduction and they fall in love. He becomes a human nothlit, marries her, and they have a son. Because he's important to the timeline, though, the Ellimist convinces him he's important in the fight against the Yeerks, and that timeline is wiped out, although his son, Tobias, continues to exist.

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

Epicurius posted:

If you really want to know. Long story short, when Elfangor is a cadet in the '70s, he saves a human woman from alien abduction and they fall in love. He becomes a human nothlit, marries her, and they have a son. Because he's important to the timeline, though, the Ellimist convinces him he's important in the fight against the Yeerks, and that timeline is wiped out, although his son, Tobias, continues to exist.

!!!
Seerow's Kindness, yikes

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

I think a question gets posed by a character soon, which in my opinion defines the entire series.

"How far into savagery do you go to defeat the savage?"

The answer for all bar one, is as far as you have to. Was Cassie wrong to give the Yeerks the morphing box?
From a tactical perspective, yes. Absolutely. It was just about the worst possible thing she could have done.
But, and I doubt I'll ever see this any other way, it was the right call.
That single act was her rejecting what the others were becoming. Jake all but destroyed himself, as shown post-war. Rachel died fighting.
Cassie didn't want to be the savage anymore. She tried to walk away once in the series as it was, and I think she understood that the Yeerks were not a monolithic, evil entity. They were just scared little slugs knowing they were at the mercy of anyone and everyone that had actual bodies. She gave them a way out, and she kept her humanity.

This is incredibly heavy poo poo for a supposed children's series.


Except giving the Yeerks the cube is tactically the smartest thing to do because it short circuits the whole reason for the war in the first place. The Yeerks engage in wars of conquest because they need hosts, and with the morphing power that entire motivation is rendered unnecessary.

Cassie’s ability to see her enemies not as cartoonish villains (difficult, given Visser Three and all) but as people with understandable if antagonistic goals and objectives lets her end an intergalactic war.

Certainly in the moment it happened though, very bold.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:

Except giving the Yeerks the cube is tactically the smartest thing to do because it short circuits the whole reason for the war in the first place. The Yeerks engage in wars of conquest because they need hosts, and with the morphing power that entire motivation is rendered unnecessary.

Cassie’s ability to see her enemies not as cartoonish villains (difficult, given Visser Three and all) but as people with understandable if antagonistic goals and objectives lets her end an intergalactic war.

Certainly in the moment it happened though, very bold.


That's a strategic shift though. It makes their immediate situation much worse because now they are fighting against morph-capable Controllers.

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Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice
The Encounter-Chapter 10

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My four friends stood stock still. They were staring with deadly focus at five other wolves.

The two packs had run into each other. Between them lay a dead rabbit. It was the other pack's kill. My friends had stumbled into them. Now the two alpha males were locked in a deadly dominance battle.

One of those alpha males was Jake.

The other was an actual wolf.

Jake had human intelligence on his side. But if it came to a fight, the other wolf had more experience. He hadn't gotten to be the head wolf in his pack by losing fights.

So, fun wolf fact. There's not actually much intra-pack aggression among wolves. People used to think there were, and developed the whole "alpha wolf is stronger than the rest of them and gets to be alpha by putting down its rivals" theory, but that was done by observing wolves in captivity. In the wild, though, wolf packs tend to be family groups, made up of mostly of a mating pair and their children. Wolf packs therefore, tend to be pretty stable, and wolves in the same pack tend to be friendly towards one another.

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I would have laughed if I could. It was ridiculous! But at least it took my mind off the female hawk. Off the feeling that drew me to her, that called out to me, even while Yeerk ships zipped in a deadly dance through the air.

Then it hit me with a shock: The time! They'd been low on time when they'd left the shore and started back. How much time had elapsed?

I swooped down low. <What are you guys doing?> I demanded.

<Shut up, Tobias,> Jake snapped tersely. <We're in actuation here.>

<Yeah, I can see that. Back away from them.>

<I can't. If I back off, I lose.>

<Lose what?> I yelled. <You're not a wolf. He's a wolf. Let him be boss wolf. You guys are way low on time!>

<It's not that simple,> Cassie said. <If Jake looks weak, the other alpha may attack. We screwed up. We're in their territory. And they think we're trying to steal their kill.>

Suddenly the other big male snarled and took a step forward. Instantly Jake bared his teeth still further and stood his ground.

The dead rabbit lay between them, only a few feet from the vicious teeth on either side.

<This fight's over the rabbit, right?> I said.

No answer. Everyone was so tense they were quivering. At any second this would explode into all-out gang warfare of the wolf variety.

I knew what I should do. But it went against every instinct in the hawk's brain.

And Tobias the human wasn't exactly thrilled, either.

I flapped up to gain a little height. I would need the speed. Then I locked my eyes on that rabbit and prayed that I was as fast as I thought I was. 31

<Oh, maaaaaan!>

Down I shot. My talons came forward.

"Tseeeeer!" I screamed.

Zoom!

A wolf on each side.

A dead rabbit.

Thwack! My talons hit the dead animal and snatched at the fur.

I flapped once, twice. The rabbit came off the ground.

The big wolf lunged. I could feel his teeth rake my tail.

I flapped for all I was worth, scooting along the ground, half-carrying, half-dragging the dead rabbit, with the wolf racing just inches behind me.

<Tobias!> Rachel cried.

<Get out of here!> I yelled. <I have to drop this thing. It's too heavy!>

Fortunately, when he isn't being an idiot wolf, Jake is quick and decisive. <Let's go while we can!>

I dropped the rabbit just as the wolf caught up to me.

SNAP!

Jaws that could kill a moose scissored the air a tenth of an inch from me. I'm telling you, he was close enough for me to count his molars.

I felt the tiniest bit of a breeze. It was enough. I opened my wings and let the breeze lift me up and away.

<Oh, that was really not fun,> I said.

<Are you okay?>

<I think I lost some tail feathers,> I said. Tail feathers grow back.

I caught up with the others. They were moving as fast as wolves can move. Time was running short. I didn't know exactly how much time. It was one of the continuing problems of morphing. Even if you could wear a watch, you wouldn't want to. A wolf or a hawk with a watch looks slightly suspicious.

<I'll see if I can get a time reading,> I said. I was tired. Very tired, after the long flight here and not one but two close calls involving wolves. The hawk in me just wanted to find a nice branch with a view of an open field and take a rest. But I knew I couldn't.

I gained a little altitude, not too much. Just enough to spot one of the Park Service trucks. The Controllers were off somewhere, but there was a clock in the dashboard.

I stared at the number in disbelief.

It had to be wrong! It had to be!

So, welcome to Animorphs, a story about how a hawk and four wolves have to fight an alien invasion.

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