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Tried playing Boneworks again last night after having recently gotten used to the arm swinger movement options in H3VR. Bad idea. The IK body in Boneworks is just incredibly frustrating. Leaning over to open drawers or break boxes by bending at the waist IRL would inevitably result in my IK legs getting trapped inside the drawers and causing the physics engine to start freaking out trying to resolve the collisions. Climbing is similarly annoying, I consistently get stuck on objects because my motions don't match up 1 to 1. And I got pretty severe nausea from the way that pushing against the environment causes your body and view to move in ways that doesn't even make sense! Smashing a counter with a brick would not cause my entire body to lift up! Same thing with opening doors using their handles... Don't think I'll ever make any real progress with it, feels like a waste of $30.
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Have you gotten to the guns? Because the guns make up for the terrible IK stuff
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May 10, 2020 19:21
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Brownie posted:And I got pretty severe nausea from the way that pushing against the environment causes your body and view to move in ways that doesn't even make sense! Smashing a counter with a brick would not cause my entire body to lift up! Same thing with opening doors using their handles... and this is why i dropped boneworks. gently caress that.
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May 10, 2020 19:23
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Have you gotten to the guns? Because the guns make up for the terrible IK stuff I have not, really haven’t made any progress in the game at all because of the nausea. In general gunplay in VR is incredible, and I was excited to experience it in boneworks but every part of the movement drains me. I cannot imagine having to deal with my IK body in an extended firefight Brownie fucked around with this message at 22:07 on May 10, 2020 |
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May 10, 2020 20:40
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Boneworks legs IK is poo poo. Like, the default most simple thing you can do, walk in a straight line? Try to do it looking totally down, at your feet. You will 'see the light' of why is poo poo.Goodguy3 posted:Ironlights is pretty fun. I especially like knight mirror matches. I read something about players having to go in turns for attack and defend, which sounded weird as hell. Can you explain how it works?
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May 10, 2020 21:06
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By the way, have anyone tried the 'test usb' thingie when you connect your Quest with Link? What are your results? edit: with the CableCreation extension cable, it says 2.0gbps. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 22:14 on May 10, 2020 |
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May 10, 2020 21:09
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I’ve never understood why people wanted to see their arms and legs in VR. It’s never accurate (short of elbow trackers I guess) Also I’m finding the Quest head strap design limiting in Echo. Can’t really whip my head around because of how front heavy it is. Probably no real solution unless a good halo strap mod is released. Game is still great though. Still can’t believe the port is so robust. AndrewP fucked around with this message at 22:35 on May 10, 2020 |
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May 10, 2020 22:31
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AndrewP posted:Also I’m finding the Quest head strap design limiting in Echo. Can’t really whip my head around because of how front heavy it is. Probably no real solution unless a good halo strap mod is released. I have the deluxe audio strap and even with it ratcheted down like a vise it slides around my face if I whip my head around rapidly.
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May 10, 2020 22:44
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AndrewP posted:I’ve never understood why people wanted to see their arms and legs in VR. It’s never accurate (short of elbow trackers I guess) From my experience the arm simulation in Stormland is accurate like 90% of the time and it allows for that fairly cool thing where you have to rip your own arm off. Also it's more immersive that floating hands.
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May 10, 2020 23:00
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AndrewP posted:I’ve never understood why people wanted to see their arms and legs in VR. It’s never accurate (short of elbow trackers I guess) Because when its done well, its great. It gives you presence. It feels nice to have em. And personally, I don't mind the wonky IK of things like boneworks. Being forced to not clip through poo poo with your body is neat.
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Turin Turambar posted:I read something about players having to go in turns for attack and defend, which sounded weird as hell. Can you explain how it works? Yeah, absolutely. Here's the tutorial for the knight. So, turn-based is only half right, really. The way it works is that you initiate an attack with a button hold and a gesture. While you're attacking, you and the opponent enter slow-motion, and your blue energy meter drains. You have until you are out of energy to try to inflict damage to the opponent while they try to guard/dodge. You can also decide to pull back by doing another gesture, to save energy. You can charge up energy faster with a button combination, but it makes you more vulnerable to damage, indicated by your health bar partially changing color. At first I thought getting hit after would mean losing all of that health but you just take more damage from hits in general while that part of your health is "used up", so to speak. You can only charge up with what health you have. Upon connecting with the enemy/enemy's weapon, your weapon "breaks" and has to be "reloaded" by moving it behind you, basically acting like you're rearing back for another swing. If you check out the sides of the screen there it does flash subtly to tell you that your weapon has moved enough to become ready again. The Knight's claymore has two segments to offset how slow and heavy it is, so it's not just easily parried by, say, the Duelist's rapier. Also, The monk is basically darth maul and I love it Goodguy3 fucked around with this message at 00:48 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 00:00
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I like arms-only. They're usually not super accurately represented but they give a better sense of your body's position than floating hands do. Legs are going to be hard until they're tracked and even then some fudging and IK would be needed for artificial locomotion.
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May 11, 2020 00:40
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I broke down and finally bought an overpriced quest. I have the psvr, but haven't touched it in forever because I hate setting it up. Otherwise than half life and beat saber, what's the new must haves?
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May 11, 2020 00:47
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Walking Dead: Saints & Sinners and Boneworks. If you dig the hand and body physics in those try Blade & Sorcery too, though be advised there isn't much "game" there and it's mostly just a power fantasy sandbox. e: I should probably do that Quest-specific write up for the OP I've been meaning to do for the last month or whatever.
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May 11, 2020 01:31
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Inacio posted:and this is why i dropped boneworks. gently caress that. Hey I recognize you  As for anyone just getting a Quest, make sure to look at SideQuest. Lots of free/cheap indie games and ports on there, like Half Life 1, DOOM, Tea for God etc.
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May 11, 2020 01:59
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SCheeseman posted:e: I should probably do that Quest-specific write up for the OP I've been meaning to do for the last month or whatever. I'd appreciate it. There's a lot of info, but alot of old info. Is gorn worth it or is it still tech demo-y?
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SCheeseman posted:I like arms-only. They're usually not super accurately represented but they give a better sense of your body's position than floating hands do. Legs are going to be hard until they're tracked and even then some fudging and IK would be needed for artificial locomotion. After about 5 min in VRchat with FBT, Honestly, I kinda wish all full IK games had "support" it would fix so much poo poo instantly for those of us with the crap to do it. FBT is really fun. Holy poo poo. Why did I wait 6+ mo to set this poo poo up? XD
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tensai posted:I'd appreciate it. There's a lot of info, but alot of old info. It's still fun. The way they handle momentum is still really novel and feels great. e: I quickly bashed out a Quest section in the OP SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 02:47 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 02:42
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Does anyone know of a way to stick extra foam onto the dense foam of VR headsets, without getting glue stuck on the original foam or ripping it up with velcro or something? I'm carving some foam to better fit my face but not sure how to stick it on there and still bring it back to factory.
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May 11, 2020 05:10
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Zero VGS posted:Does anyone know of a way to stick extra foam onto the dense foam of VR headsets, without getting glue stuck on the original foam or ripping it up with velcro or something? I'm carving some foam to better fit my face but not sure how to stick it on there and still bring it back to factory. Why not just get a VRCover replacement? 
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May 11, 2020 05:40
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Why not just get a VRCover replacement? I only need a bit of foam at my cheekbones to tilt the Pimax upwards a little and then it's perfect. I already have free foam and it mostly stays in place by friction, just looking for something to make it slightly more permanent. Don't see the need to buy a whole thing.
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Zero VGS posted:I only need a bit of foam at my cheekbones to tilt the Pimax upwards a little and then it's perfect. I already have free foam and it mostly stays in place by friction, just looking for something to make it slightly more permanent. Don't see the need to buy a whole thing. Maybe you can take some thin plastic like cling wrap or cut grocery bags and wrap the sections of the oem facial interface you want to tape your extra foam onto? That way glue goo only gets onto the plastic wrap. It's gonna look janky as hell, though.
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SCheeseman posted:I like arms-only. They're usually not super accurately represented but they give a better sense of your body's position than floating hands do. Legs are going to be hard until they're tracked and even then some fudging and IK would be needed for artificial locomotion. Yeah, arms are fine, but the legs in B&S piss me off because I'll bend at the hip to stab somebody, but the game thinks I've taken a step forward and squatted, so my fake legs are in the way.
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tensai posted:I broke down and finally bought an overpriced quest. I have the psvr, but haven't touched it in forever because I hate setting it up. Otherwise than half life and beat saber, what's the new must haves? Echo VR.
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yergacheffe posted:Maybe you can take some thin plastic like cling wrap or cut grocery bags and wrap the sections of the oem facial interface you want to tape your extra foam onto? That way glue goo only gets onto the plastic wrap. It's gonna look janky as hell, though. That's a pretty good idea, I'll try that. Also I just finished Half Life Alyx, what a spectacular game. I was considering trying Boneworks next, but does it respect motion sickness to the same extent? Like, I did Alyx with teleport only the whole way, not sure if that's an option for most of Boneworks?
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Boneworks is one of the least comfortable VR games out there. It even warns you about it on the store page. Don't try it until you're at the very least perfectly comfortable with smooth locomotion.
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Jack Trades posted:Boneworks is one of the least comfortable VR games out there. It even warns you about it on the store page. Oh jeez, didn't realize there's no teleport and the devs say they'll never add it. Yeah that's no good for me then, I can't do smooth at all.
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tensai posted:I broke down and finally bought an overpriced quest. I have the psvr, but haven't touched it in forever because I hate setting it up. Otherwise than half life and beat saber, what's the new must haves? Let me search, I did a post two months ago... here it is: quote:Good
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May 11, 2020 11:28
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Will vouch for Gadgeteer, it's a great puzzle game and feels great to play if you have a nice little space to walk around in.
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Turin Turambar posted:Let me search, I did a post two months ago... here it is: Job Sim is fun for about half an hour per job type, I guess. It's silly and fun.
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Merijn posted:
Vacation Sim is an improved version of it, imo, it's why I put it on the 'bottom tier', people searching that type of game can go directly to the newer game. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 12:34 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 12:01
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Merijn posted:Job Sim is fun for about half an hour per job type, I guess. It's silly and fun. Retail and Office are the only two Jobs with any variety to their activities. Cook and Car Mechanic will show you everything they have to offer in about five minutes.
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The only reason I kept Job Sim installed back when I still had a Vive was because it's a great first time playing VR game for people. There's no forced movement and the interactions are pretty intuitive so you get used to using your hands instead of just pressing buttons on a controller, but there is no replayability.
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https://gizmodo.com/heres-a-first-look-at-sonys-next-gen-finger-tracking-vr-1843364429
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May 11, 2020 15:42
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:https://gizmodo.com/heres-a-first-look-at-sonys-next-gen-finger-tracking-vr-1843364429 You're about a week late on that one  .Here's something new though; Researchers are trying to use head-mounted haptics to combat motion sickness in VR.
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I missed this news https://www.gematsu.com/2020/05/upload-vr-showcase-2020-summer-edition-set-for-june-8 quote:Upload VR Showcase 2020: Summer Edition will showcase more than 20 titles, including from Fast Travel Games, Cloudhead Games, and “new studios that have been secretly mining away on new games,” as well as “highlights on some indie darlings.” And Until you Fall is on sale https://store.steampowered.com/app/858260/Until_You_Fall/ Less than 12€.
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Oh, another interesting VR sale. A new pack https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/14236/The_Wonder_of_VR_Collection/ Moss, The Curious Tale of the Stolen Pets, A Fisherman's Tale and Down the Rabbit Hole for 39€
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Picked up 2MD: VR Football on the Quest and I'm digging it. I like that they went simple on the models, keeps it easy to follow but still maintains the feel of football. But most importantly, the throw mechanics feel good and are nicely adjustable. Could use some more features and modes but the core of the experience is solid.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You're about a week late on that one This is a great idea, I would love it in Boneworks. I still get semi sick every once in a while when I've taken a long break from it. Okay so where the hell is our kayaking murder simulation game? God dammit I want to be sam fisher!
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So I went Lemming posted:The #1 tip I have that will immediately make you better than almost everyone is to turn around and look for boosts rather than floating directly towards the disk. Since you can throw off any surface 4 m/s, if you throw off someone moving you end up moving at their speed plus 4 m/s. This means that even if you spend a few seconds going backwards, if you grab someone who's moving in the direction you wanna go and you throw off of them, you'll be moving about twice as fast. So I've been in a handful of 4v4 games Seems like you can boost off of three people, I never looked at my speedometer but I'm guessing that would net 12m/s ? So in a 4v4 game there are what potentially 7 people you could boost off of for 28m/s speed? If that's true then yeah makes sense to go backwards to jump straight to 8m/s, you should easily be able to catch up with someone else at that speed to get to 12m/s Will give that a shot
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