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Please tell me that omnishambles is now listed in the OED
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Just read this whole thread and yikes it really does highlight a lot of stuff: https://twitter.com/imajsaclaimant/status/1259628794970886144
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May 11, 2020 15:48
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Dead Goon posted:Has this been posted? That article is astonishing, need to digest the numbers but if it's accurate it's a hell of an argument. Labour's current proposed rent deferment is such depressingly woolly politics. When challenged on why not a outright waiver, they've cited that it could make the government liable for the missed rent payments under ECHR. 1. That's far from settled legally; 2. going to court to defend renters from landlords seems like exactly the sort of thing a labour government should be doing. Even if the government is found to be liable to pay the waived rent, surely that's preferable to poor people being made homeless or starving? Even if they're not liable it might be a good idea--however unpalatable--to do it anyway to mitigate the economic fallout of a bunch of parasites going bankrupt simultaneously. The only possible framework in which it makes sense is if not increasing government debt trumps vulnerable people's basic need for food and shelter. How the gently caress can you think that and call yourself a Labour MP. Even if you view it purely thought the lens of political communication, rather than as an actual policy, it's basically just signalling that landlords we've got your back, renters gently caress off. Maddening.
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May 11, 2020 15:50
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Sweet jesus Starmer's questions are soporific, just endless tedious references to page numbers and statements that are gliding off my brain like an ice rink.
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May 11, 2020 15:52
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May 11, 2020 15:54
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Dead Goon posted:Has this been posted? I'd like to know where this guy is living such that a mortgage costs £1300 a year, so I can live there. Especially if it's on a different planet, as it appears to be.
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May 11, 2020 16:03
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MonkeyLibFront posted:I for one welcome our new robot dog overlords. Fahrenheit 451 posted:The mechanical Hound slept but did not sleep, lived but did not live in its gently humming, gently vibrating, softly illuminated kennel back in a dark corner of the fire house. The dim light of one in the morning, the moonlight from the open sky framed through the great window, touched here and there on the brass and copper and the steel of the faintly trembling beast. Light flickered on bits of ruby glass and on sensitive capillary hairs in the nylon-brushed nostrils of the creature that quivered gently, its eight legs spidered under it on rubber padded paws.
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May 11, 2020 16:04
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Jedit posted:I'd like to know where this guy is living such that a mortgage costs £1300 a year, so I can live there. Especially if it's on a different planet, as it appears to be. The cost of the mortgage might be offset by the rent received
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May 11, 2020 16:05
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VideoGames posted:Just read this whole thread and yikes it really does highlight a lot of stuff: The best thing about this is how many little things fall in the memory hole because there's only so much I can be shocked by at once. I almost forgot about operation last gasp.
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May 11, 2020 16:06
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Jedit posted:I'd like to know where this guy is living such that a mortgage costs £1300 a year, so I can live there. Especially if it's on a different planet, as it appears to be. You can't, but the state can, so the argument is that it should. 5.52m private rented homes x £230k average house price (in reality exciting rental opportunities are probably worth less than that, but that's the value the argument uses), gives £1,269.6b, current 30 year bond rates are 0.55%, so that gives a rough annual servicing cost of ~£7b, which over 5.52m properties is about £1,265 each.
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May 11, 2020 16:13
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Jakabite posted:You're only going indoors once every ten days!? Christ man you're meant to be inside most of the time! I now live in a tree, the rent is cheaper, even if my new landlord (magpie) can be a bit of a dick sometimes (cawing in or near ear, bites my hair)
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May 11, 2020 16:22
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Barry Foster posted:I now live in a tree, the rent is cheaper, even if my new landlord (magpie) can be a bit of a dick sometimes (cawing in or near ear, bites my hair) proper dick imo though maybe try not to ruffle his feathers so much
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May 11, 2020 16:25
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Crossposting from Simpsons meme thread https://twitter.com/JonnyGabriel/status/1259553576646594560?s=20
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May 11, 2020 16:27
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Guavanaut posted:That's how much an interest only mortgage would cost if you could borrow at the same rate as a bond issuing state. It's all predicated on yields being super low, the break even point is 0.7%. There probably isn't demand for 1.3 trillion quids worth in one go, which would drive yields up; that said, yields are rock bottom for a reason, and the last round of funding for the furlough (which was approx 10% of the sum estimated here) actually drove yields lower. What it does highlight is how cheap government debt is right now. A quick back of the fag-packet say if you tried to run the same argument this time last year your £7B annual cost would have been £19B and ten years ago it would have been £55B. Rustybear fucked around with this message at 16:33 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 16:30
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Guavanaut posted:This is a level beyond forensic. I call it fivensic. THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORENSIC!
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May 11, 2020 16:33
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bornbytheriver posted:Please tell me that omnishambles is now listed in the OED very much so 
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May 11, 2020 16:47
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Guavanaut posted:That's how much an interest only mortgage would cost if you could borrow at the same rate as a bond issuing state. What are the predicted knock on effects, i guess first of all on house prices, if the government buys every privately rented home in the uk at once?
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May 11, 2020 17:08
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Just scrolling through the BBC parliament live tv feed and literally the first question I came across was:Fay Jones, con, brecon and radnorshire posted:I am grateful that the prime minister is working closely with the Welsh government to design a four nations approach to ending the coronavirus lockdown*, this is so important for my constituents in brecon and radnorshire who share a border with England; but will he agree with me that while the R number continues to vary across the country, restrictions in Wales remain the same and changes that he announced last night are not a green light for tourism or for people to travel to their second homes in Wales? the haunted haystack posted:Absolutely Mr Speaker, and er you see I'm I'm grateful, this is why it's so important that we should try and get as much er as much clarity as possible, and I hope that the house does understand that when you're making changes o-of this complexity, the messaging i-is is crucial but it is also difficult, and she's completely right, er we don't want to see people, let me repeat, we don't want to see people travelling, er, to, er, another home for a for a holiday or to a second home, that is not what this is about, this is about allowing people, er the pleasure and the exercise of going to places, er, to parks, to places ofer to national parks, to places of outstanding er beauty and er and taking advantage of the open air *lol
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May 11, 2020 17:09
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XMNN posted:Just scrolling through the BBC parliament live tv feed and literally the first question I came across was: It's not even true. Boris has done the opposite to working closely with devolved governments.
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May 11, 2020 17:11
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Dead Goon posted:Has this been posted? This is awesome but it does mean that landlords get away with selling their properties for a tidy sum, necks intact, which I'm not sure I'm comfortable with.
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May 11, 2020 17:11
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Take back control Get brexit done Both really good slogans Stay alert Utter shite, resonates with nobody
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May 11, 2020 17:15
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:This is awesome but it does mean that landlords get away with selling their properties for a tidy sum, necks intact, which I'm not sure I'm comfortable with. As long as they're off the plane it doesn't matter if we give them a parachute or a bullet. The burden is gone.
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May 11, 2020 17:18
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NotJustANumber99 posted:What are the predicted knock on effects, i guess first of all on house prices, if the government buys every privately rented home in the uk at once? That does create a perverse incentive for the state to keep house prices high though, as it'd look bad to have spent 1.3 trillion on something that's now worth a quarter of that, but it would allow gently taking the heat off the market over the course of a few decades, which is something you can't normally do.
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May 11, 2020 17:21
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NotJustANumber99 posted:What are the predicted knock on effects, i guess first of all on house prices, if the government buys every privately rented home in the uk at once? The housing market isn't homogeneous so you cant make sweeping UK-wide statements but... quick guess would be it would initially drive house prices up as the gov is buying at any price. Long term it would reduce prices as easy access to equitable social housing reduces the demand from new buyers. Even in that overly broad generalization there are a lot of qualifiers tho. Edit: the first part is assuming there isn't some sort of compulsory purchase order which could make more sense but might be more of a legal challenge in that I imagine landlords would want to be additionally compensated for loss of future profits or some shite.
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May 11, 2020 17:24
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sassassin posted:As long as they're off the plane it doesn't matter if we give them a parachute or a bullet. The burden is gone. They might re-offend though. Letting them live sends the wrong message.
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May 11, 2020 17:24
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Rustybear posted:The housing market isn't homogeneous so you cant make sweeping UK-wide statements but... quick guess would be it would initially drive house prices up as the gov is buying at any price. Long term it would reduce prices as easy access to equitable social housing reduces the demand from new buyers. Wouldn't need to buy at any price, they would just need to follow the rules for any compulsory purchase. Because they are not the recidences of the owners no premium there.
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May 11, 2020 17:32
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:They might re-offend though. Letting them live sends the wrong message. I guess if you've bought every private rental property in the country you've kind of made private rentals against the law? So they won't be reoffending.
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May 11, 2020 17:33
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forkboy84 posted:It's not even true. Boris has done the opposite to working closely with devolved governments. If anyone else is confused by his rambling incoherent answer, which actually makes it even less clear whether the prohibition applies to tourism in Wales in general or just to travelling to a holiday home, according to that 50 page document it's tourism in general quote:When travelling to outdoor spaces, it is important that people respect the rules in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and do not travel to different parts of the UK where it would be inconsistent with guidance or regulations issued by the relevant devolved administration. You'd think given that "it's so important that we should try and get as much er as much clarity as possible, and I hope that the house does understand that when you're making changes o-of this complexity, the messaging i-is is crucial but it is also difficult", he'd want to perhaps send a clear message that you should respect the advice of the individual national governments, and perhaps emphasise that as things stand that means that you can't got to Wales. I'm amazed by how lovely a public speaker he is, is it part of his shambling act? I'm not sure how it helps, when if he wasn't quite so stumbling he could get all his flowery words and half-baked classics references in and I don't think it would harm his carefully cultivated day-drinking public school boy image too much? e: maybe it's a genuine stutter? I'll feel bad if I'm mocking him for an actual speech impediment rather than being an utterly worthless human being XMNN fucked around with this message at 17:38 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 17:35
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XMNN posted:yep, but I'm pretty sure a bit of counter factual brown nosing is probably a requirement for tory mps asking boris a question Put on an act long enough and it becomes genuine.
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May 11, 2020 17:39
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Rustybear posted:Edit: the first part is assuming there isn't some sort of compulsory purchase order which could make more sense but might be more of a legal challenge in that I imagine landlords would want to be additionally compensated for loss of future profits or some shite. *points at all the houses* nationalised. 
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May 11, 2020 17:49
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https://twitter.com/TheSinanKose/status/1259854889234190337
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May 11, 2020 17:52
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I assume everyone has seen this. https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1259804332834332672?s=19 Impressive explosion of FIGHTING SPIRIT by Piers Morgan. Also it's being liked by Owen Jones and Comedian Sarah Silverman? Wow.
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May 11, 2020 17:54
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possibly Boris Johnsons worst crime is making me agree with piers Morgan
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May 11, 2020 18:00
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oh hey i'm a dr now apparently lol, they let anyone into academia these days i tells ya seriously though, viva passed with minor corrections - feeling pretty drat great!
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May 11, 2020 18:03
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May 11, 2020 18:09
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ThomasPaine posted:oh hey i'm a dr now apparently lol, they let anyone into academia these days i tells ya Congrats! A mate of mine also passed his viva today - are you him? Do you live in Cardiff? Was it on synthetic vectors?
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May 11, 2020 18:12
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Well done! Did you already get your welcome pack explaining the guidelines for effectively perpetuating the Globe Earth and Evolution bullshit to the normie plebs? It might take a week or two for your first payout from Big Pharma to come through FYI
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May 11, 2020 18:13
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ThomasPaine posted:oh hey i'm a dr now apparently lol, they let anyone into academia these days i tells ya Congrats! Welcome to the club. You are now allowed to share "the look" with other phds when you meet in social situations.
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May 11, 2020 18:14
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gently caress yes, great to see, long overdue.
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honoring the front line heroes by giving them a free last will and testament https://twitter.com/bumpfn/status/1259894865053319168 lmao
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