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drgitlin posted:There's the Eclipse Cross, which was so horribly mediocre and old-feeling that I told Mitsubishi I wasn't going to write the review after driving one for a week because it would feel too much like punching down. 
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drgitlin posted:There's the Eclipse Cross, which was so horribly mediocre and old-feeling that I told Mitsubishi I wasn't going to write the review after driving one for a week because it would feel too much like punching down. They cannot possibly sell many of these. I'm guessing that you've driven the Outlander PHEV at some point, which is years behind every other hybrid crossover in every way?
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Is it $3,000 worse than the $3,000 more expensive Rogue? I thought people bought tons of those just because it was a cheap CUV.
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i own every Bionicle posted:Is it $3,000 worse than the $3,000 more expensive Rogue? I thought people bought tons of those just because it was a cheap CUV. yea, it is it's a rental car special in the grandest traditions
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Twerk from Home posted:They cannot possibly sell many of these. I'm guessing that you've driven the Outlander PHEV at some point, which is years behind every other hybrid crossover in every way? That's in it's own niche though, there aren't any other plugins anywhere near that price range so at least it has a reason to exist. Unlike the ASX and regular Outlander.
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Twerk from Home posted:They cannot possibly sell many of these. I'm guessing that you've driven the Outlander PHEV at some point, which is years behind every other hybrid crossover in every way? Yes. One of the biggest Musk fanboys/Tesla trolls in the Ars comment section drives one of those and I took perverse delight in pointing out how bad it was when I reviewed that one.
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drgitlin posted:Yes. One of the biggest Musk fanboys/Tesla trolls in the Ars comment section drives one of those and I took perverse delight in pointing out how bad it was when I reviewed that one. and on that note, https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1259945593805221891
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dissss posted:That's in it's own niche though, there aren't any other plugins anywhere near that price range so at least it has a reason to exist. Unlike the ASX and regular Outlander. I bought a PHEV Kia Niro, which I'm pretty drat happy with. $10k cheaper than an Outlander PHEV too.
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https://www.autoblog.com/2020/05/11/volvo-xc100-recharge-report/quote:The report says the XC100 Recharge is going to be based on the next-gen XC90, so expect a chopped-roof version of that car. If Volvo follows the trends of its European competitors, it’ll feature similar design characteristics as the BMW X6 and Mercedes-Benz GLE Coupe. MT says that Volvo will be positioning the vehicle as a flagship branding statement, leaving the XC90 to be the utilitarian offering. Both vehicles are expected to be built on Volvo’s upcoming SPA2 architecture that is being designed to support both gas-engine and fully-electric vehicles. A performance-electric luxury coupeSUV made by Chinese-owned Volvo seems like the ideal vehicle for our current historical moment.
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Wheeee posted:and on that note, What a loving clown
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Gazoo Racing hot-hatch Corolla coming? https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a32434970/toyota-gr-hot-hatch-usa-confirmed/ I like the Corolla hatch but I looked at it at an autoshow and they didn't mold the spare into the trunk floor or give it run-flat tires, so it takes up so much valuable space. Otherwise I'd consider it as my next car.
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Elon Musk is a perfect litmus for determining if the person you're engaging with is an imbecile incapable of critical thought
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"What are you gonna do, arrest me?" -Quote from Musk Arrested
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Charles posted:Gazoo Racing hot-hatch Corolla coming? The hybrid doesn't have a spare so actually has more boot space than the normal Corolla - quite different from old Toyota hybrids where you'd end up with zero boot space if you chose the hybrid option. Still a small boot for the class though
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mobby_6kl posted:"What are you gonna do, arrest me?" he knows very well that he is never going to be legitimately arrested or face real consequences for his actions
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Charles posted:Gazoo Racing hot-hatch Corolla coming? If they put the AWD in it will be pretty great.
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JK Fresco posted:What do they even make?? They tend to make SUVs that seem to be loved by most Australians because of the length of the new car warranty on them, and the Triton ute is selling in the bucketloads, once again due to the warranty period. I think both Nissan and Mitsubishi at least in Australia have given up selling regular "passenger" cars like sedans and hatchbacks and just depending on commercial vehicles and SUVs to get them the sales.
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You Am I posted:They tend to make SUVs that seem to be loved by most Australians because of the length of the new car warranty on them, and the Triton ute is selling in the bucketloads, once again due to the warranty period. Outlander PHEVs seem to sell well here in NZ, as did the ancient Lancer, although they were help by being cheap as gently caress with excellent finance deals. Not sure about the Tritons, but I’ve seen a few Ute comparisons where the even the journos/hosts were surprised at how much they liked the Triton. IIRC the interior, standard features, ride and off road performance were all praised along with the price and warranty. Never driven one myself so just quoting.
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The Outlander PHEV occupied its own niche for a while and was pretty inexpensive for what it was so it makes sense that they sold. Why you would buy one now makes no sense to me. Edit: mitsubishi has historically made good real SUVs so I'm not surprised the Triton is decent.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The Outlander PHEV occupied its own niche for a while and was pretty inexpensive for what it was so it makes sense that they sold. Why you would buy one now makes no sense to me. Globally or in the US? It looks like 2019 was the first mode year here.
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It was in Europe for quite a while and it was first here MY2018, basically before you could get a PHEV Pacifica or a hybrid RAV-4/CR-V
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The Outlander PHEV came out in 2013 in Japan which is why it feels so dated now. It's still in a niche of its own though at least in my market (New Zealand) - the Niro and Kona are smaller and aren't 4wd, the RAV4 isn't a plugin and the euro options are like three times the price. I wouldn't buy a new one but am still considering buying one second hand.
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Mr. Apollo posted:Anyone else see the leaked 2021 S Class photos? MB actually thinks that's a step up from this:  lol
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Mr. Apollo posted:Anyone else see the leaked 2021 S Class photos? Oh dear god. gently caress that poo poo
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The new 2021 Hyundai S-Klasse
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Mr. Apollo posted:Anyone else see the leaked 2021 S Class photos?  
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Are...are the Germans cribbing Korean design languages now? My have the tables turned
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The G80 is the better looking car by a long shot. It just needs a 600+ HP TT V8.
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dissss posted:The Outlander PHEV came out in 2013 in Japan which is why it feels so dated now. The Outlander PHEV is the third most popular used import in Finland, over a thousand last year. IIRC only the M-B C- and E-classes have greater numbers.
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dk2m posted:Are...are the Germans cribbing Korean design languages now? My have the tables turned They're definitely copying Tesla's design language for the interior, which is much worse.
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Mr. Apollo posted:Anyone else see the leaked 2021 S Class photos? 
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I don’t think giant grills and squinty headlights qualify as the design language of any one auto maker these days. That’s just how cars look now.
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