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I was actually ok with Seven's characterisation in this. She was, for all intents and purposes, a child in VOY, it makes sense that someone like that would be a significantly different person 20 years on - she had further to 'grow' than other characters over that time. Given how unimportant to the plot she was though, I wonder if the real reason she was there is she's one of the more marketable individual 90s Trek Characters, so if Patrick Stewart's health takes a turn for the worse so the show can quickly evolve into Star Trek: Seven of Nine. If you're going to look at the returning cast, I had more of a problem with Jean Luc Picard - Dipshit space rear end in a top hat, personally.
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Season 1 seemed to be "how Picard got his groove back" so I have a feeling we will see less of that in season 2
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May 11, 2020 18:02
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he got his groove back by becoming a robot lol
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May 11, 2020 18:24
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Tighclops posted:he got his groove back by becoming a robot lol He got his groove back and became a robot as a bonus
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May 11, 2020 18:28
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Hopefully it means he’ll act a bit younger. Doddery old man Picard felt too weak at times.
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May 11, 2020 18:31
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gently caress it, make it an anthology. Next season is Star Trek: Riker.
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May 11, 2020 18:40
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MikeJF posted:gently caress it, make it an anthology. Next season is Star Trek: Riker. This is just a cooking show, right?
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May 11, 2020 18:41
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The robot thing was real dumb because they made him a robot and then quickly handwaved away any sort of robotic advantages so unless that stuff gets retconned there will be no interesting story bits related to him now being an artificial life form. Which I guess is fine from the perspective of "artificial life forms are life forms and deserve the same respect and compassion as all living things" but honestly they could have just said his made up future disease was cured and be done with it.
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May 11, 2020 18:43
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It's a cooking show and also a slapstick comedy where Riker tries to hide from his family that he's back to moonlighting as a Starship Captain in the evening when he told them he was just going out to compete in the beta quadrant pizzapalooza.
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May 11, 2020 18:43
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pik_d posted:This is just a cooking show, right? We watched These Are The Voyages... last night and while the episode is as bad as its reputation (especially given how well Terra Prime works as a series finale) it was nice to see Riker in the kitchen. He even makes pizza with Dr. Phlox! MikeJF posted:It's a cooking show and also a slapstick comedy where Riker tries to hide from his family that he's back to moonlighting as a Starship Captain in the evening when he told them he was just going out to compete in the beta quadrant pizzapalooza. Riker make the show
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May 11, 2020 18:45
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Tighclops posted:Riker eat the eggs He would
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May 11, 2020 18:46
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DrNutt posted:The robot thing was real dumb because they made him a robot and then quickly handwaved away any sort of robotic advantages so unless that stuff gets retconned there will be no interesting story bits related to him now being an artificial life form. Which I guess is fine from the perspective of "artificial life forms are life forms and deserve the same respect and compassion as all living things" but honestly they could have just said his made up future disease was cured and be done with it. One interesting route they could go with it is whether or not robo Picard counts as the same person. Will Starfleet still recognize his commission and rank? Ia he still recognized as the original JL Picard under the law, who owns a vineyard and all of JL's physical and intellectual property? Does this set the precendent that all uploaded consciousnesses are legally different people when divorced from their meat bodies, and forced to forfeit whatever entitlements, properties, or priveleges, they may have held when in those meat bodies?
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May 11, 2020 18:53
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pik_d posted:This is just a cooking show, right? 1 hour of him getting drunk on space booze and forgetting to cook anything. Then he replicates something at the last second and adds more salt and tries to pass it off as his own cooking to his family.
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May 11, 2020 18:58
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pik_d posted:This is just a cooking show, right? Star Trek: Riker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlFyuwUagz0
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May 11, 2020 20:32
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Drink-Mix Man posted:One interesting route they could go with it is whether or not robo Picard counts as the same person. Will Starfleet still recognize his commission and rank? Ia he still recognized as the original JL Picard under the law, who owns a vineyard and all of JL's physical and intellectual property? Does this set the precendent that all uploaded consciousnesses are legally different people when divorced from their meat bodies, and forced to forfeit whatever entitlements, properties, or priveleges, they may have held when in those meat bodies? something something the transporter kills you and replicates a clone yadda yadda
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May 11, 2020 20:41
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pik_d posted:This is just a cooking show, right? My Dinner With Riker. Every episode someone else visits and they all hang out and cook and eat amazing food with weird alien ingredients mixed in.
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May 11, 2020 21:05
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mllaneza posted:My Dinner With Riker. Every episode someone else visits and they all hang out and cook and eat amazing food with weird alien ingredients mixed in. I would absolutely watch that.
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May 11, 2020 21:10
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mllaneza posted:My Dinner With Riker. Every episode someone else visits and they all hang out and cook and eat amazing food with weird alien ingredients mixed in. Do they get drunk through the show or do they start drunk and then get more drunk through the show?
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May 11, 2020 21:12
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mllaneza posted:My Dinner With Riker. Every episode someone else visits and they all hang out and cook and eat amazing food with weird alien ingredients mixed in. 
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May 11, 2020 21:17
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Brawnfire posted:"Nonsense, it's a beautiful day. Come, number one, let's take a stroll." The second season of What We Do In The Shadows opened with a montage like this and it was great.
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In an episode of TNG right after O'Brian and Keiko get married, O'Brien makes Keiko a potato casserole with capers. It sounded so good that I found a recipe online and I'm thinking about making it this week.
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mllaneza posted:My Dinner With Riker. Every episode someone else visits and they all hang out and cook and eat amazing food with weird alien ingredients mixed in. Why do the joke ideas all sound so much better than the ones they actually decided to make?
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May 12, 2020 10:46
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because canonically the klingons blew up god at the end of TFF
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Tighclops posted:because canonically the klingons blew up god at the end of TFF Technically Spock blew up god. 
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May 12, 2020 12:52
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Voyager update: It's still bland but honestly it's a lot better than I remember it being. The few episodes with Brad Dourif were really cool, and there had been a handful of episodes that actually surprised me with how much I liked them. I just finished the episode with the two Ferengi and it made me really sad that we probably won't see many more classic Star Trek races. It's agreed that The Doctor is the best character on this show though, right? Anyway, four more seasons to go.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:One interesting route they could go with it is whether or not robo Picard counts as the same person. Will Starfleet still recognize his commission and rank? Ia he still recognized as the original JL Picard under the law, who owns a vineyard and all of JL's physical and intellectual property? Does this set the precendent that all uploaded consciousnesses are legally different people when divorced from their meat bodies, and forced to forfeit whatever entitlements, properties, or priveleges, they may have held when in those meat bodies? Just lol if you think they're going to put that much thought into it.
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Martytoof posted:Voyager update:
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FlamingLiberal posted:Everything with Seven is so weird. She is just radically different from when we last saw the character, and while I get that some bad things have happened to her, she feels like a completely different character. Did Picard even need to be in Picard? What would have happened if he just stayed on the vineyard? On the one hand, a couple dozen synths that were convinced to end all organic life in about five minutes and an unknown Soong would have been killed. On the other hand, the deaths on the Romulan refugee planet wouldn't have happened, the Stardust City slaughter would have been avoided, and unknown thousands or millions on the Borg cube would have survived. And I guess Picard would be dead? No big loss. Arglebargle III posted:Same but also Picard.
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pyrotek posted:Did Picard even need to be in Picard? Picard S2: Picardo (main character is the voyager EMH) - it could work?
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Guinan being in season 2 makes me think they're gonna go ahead and make Time's Arrow Part III, where Picard's head gets left on El-Auria 500 years in the past.
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Note: Picard died on the way back to his home planet But then they gave him a robot body 
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Retrowave Joe posted:Guinan being in season 2 makes me think they're gonna go ahead and make Time's Arrow Part III, where Picard's head gets left on El-Auria 500 years in the past. They never really did explain how their relationship was beyond friends, beyond family Of course with the level of de aging tech CBS apparently has, yeesh Maybe Tom Hardy is available
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The Bloop posted:They never really did explain how their relationship was beyond friends, beyond family And that's perfectly fine. Not everything needs to be explored and explained in extreme detail.
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Martytoof posted:Note: Picard died on the way back to his home planet CBS executives compiling notes from Reddits to try to focus group what fans want from a new show: "Seems like they want a realistic, down-to-earth show... that's completely off the wall and swarming with magic robots."
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Timby posted:And that's perfectly fine. Not everything needs to be explored and explained in extreme detail. Oh I fully agree It's usually better left to the imagination, in fact. But I'm just speculating about season 2. I doubt she'll be tending bar
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The Bloop posted:Oh I fully agree Counterpoint: Raffi and Rios getting served at Guinen's bar for an hour, shooting the poo poo.
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season 2: Guinan hauls that giant alien space rifle from that one episode of TNG out from behind the bar and mows everybody down with it. Satisfied, she chomps down on a stogey and does a shot of bourb-
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Drink-Mix Man posted:CBS executives compiling notes from Reddits to try to focus group what fans want from a new show: "Seems like they want a realistic, down-to-earth show... that's completely off the wall and swarming with magic robots." "Picard needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a dune buggy."
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Tighclops posted:season 2: Guinan hauls that giant alien space rifle from that one episode of TNG out from behind the bar and mows everybody down with it. Satisfied, she chomps down on a stogey and does a shot of bourb- That bigass gun is simultaneously the coolest and dumbest thing about Guinan.
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