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pokeyman posted:Didn't see Wendell's season, but I did not enjoy him on this season. That finale is quite something when you don't know for a fact who wins out of it. Oh shoot. It's gone. What was this?
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This was a real fun season. Definitely the best season of the 40s so far. If we were to rank the best season of each generation of survivor where do you guys line em up? S1-9: Pearl Islands S10-19: Micronesia S20-29: Cagayan S30-39: Second Chance (MvGX was a very close 2nd here)
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Zesty posted:Oh shoot. It's gone. What was this? Tyson saying why he voted for Natalie, because they're friends. Stephen replied with this https://twitter.com/stephenfishbach/status/1260770057434525696
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OFFICER LIGER posted:This was a real fun season. Definitely the best season of the 40s so far. If we were to rank the best season of each generation of survivor where do you guys line em up? Those are probably what I'd say, yeah. Millennials vs Gen X and David vs Goliath are honorable mentions for the 30s. Micronesia or Tocantins for the 10s. Pearl Islands and Cagayan for sure for 00s and 20s. curiousCat posted:Tyson saying why he voted for Natalie, because they're friends. Stephen replied with this Absolutely true.
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if you make the jury you have the right to vote however you want to vote. michele was just in a real unenviable position tonight. she was facing two people that were perceived as driving the action for the merge and onward. She had a great story and a really good path to the end and she still played her heart out to get there, but for this season with this cast it wasnt going to be enough to earn votes, especially a jury of people that have all won the game before. I think one thing that has happened for her this season though, ironically, is it has done a lot to repair her winner image from Kaoh Rong.
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May 14, 2020 08:38
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Pearl Islands Micronesia Heroes vs. Villains Kaoh Rong They can't measure up to the two perfect returnee seasons, but Gabon/San Juan Del Sur in the 10s/20s are maybe the seasons that cater most to what I personally want to get out of the Survivor experience. Borneo, China, Cagayan and Philippines are all strong honorable mentions in their respective categories too
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OFFICER LIGER posted:This was a real fun season. Definitely the best season of the 40s so far. If we were to rank the best season of each generation of survivor where do you guys line em up? Pearl Islands Cook Islands HvV (This feels like cheating so I’ll also say Cagayan) David vs Goliath
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Ponderosa vids are up, will kill an hour of your time https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWwZ4u5_J1L87_UkH1t2xXJthxEU84G1h Tony interview https://ew.com/tv/survivor-tony-vlachos-finale-winners-at-war-interview/ Natalie interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkFH4ZBMJB4
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May 14, 2020 09:26
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Zesty posted:Nice job using the same language right wing chuds use. Super gross. Not thrilled with a player falling on their sword either but coming just short of using "virtue signalling" RIGHT after players rightfully express how difficult it is for women to get respected for the same things men get respected for is extraordinarily tone deaf. Yea don't regret it at all. Can't see any other reason why Ben gave permission to Sarah to get voted out to pad her resume other than him sacrificing himself for the individual talking about gender equality the tribal before. (Also if it's not clear, it's a knock on Ben and not on Sarah) SLICK GOKU BABY fucked around with this message at 09:36 on May 14, 2020 |
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May 14, 2020 09:33
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Survivor: Old West is a fine idea but I really want to see the Washington Rainforest. How the gently caress did Tony get through that game without catching a vote?
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May 14, 2020 10:06
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A lot of winners don’t get votes on them. Votes aren’t random or blindly for the one person an individual wants out the most. People work together and Tony was almost always in the controlling group. It’s why “votes cast against you” isn’t considered a meaningful stat anymore. They used to use it as a tiebreaker. SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Yea don't regret it at all. Can't see any other reason why Ben gave permission to Sarah to get voted out to pad her resume other than him sacrificing himself for the individual talking about gender equality the tribal before. Oh! You weren’t using chud language against Lacina. You were using chud language against Ben. Well that’s fine, of course. 
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May 14, 2020 10:27
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I probably would've stopped watching the show for a season or two, or maybe ever, after 39, with probably any other gimmick. But hey this one brought me in and we had a good season with a good win. Tony's performance was masterful. I think Natty is right that what she did was amazing and I'm glad she got votes. I also think that Michelle's definitely proved a point, even without getting votes.
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May 14, 2020 10:56
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I honestly think that Natalie played a better game than Tony, especially towards the end when his main alliance wouldn't listen to him about anything and made decisions that he had to go along with. When he kept talking about his #spynest I kept asking myself why the jury wasn't asking why his game hadn't evolved beyond his gimmick, which didn't even seem to work this season. The mini interview afterwards was like a GBS parody designed to make people angry lol Whatever, I'm glad Sarah didn't win.
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May 14, 2020 11:05
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May 14, 2020 11:48
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weird finale. a lot of decisions felt forced but at least Tony won. Natalie getting second is pretty funny, like when someone asked her what she would've done different socially "well on day one..." also another funny moment was when Ben sacrificed himself(???) and made that joke about a party or w/e, everyone was laughing except Boston Rob.
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May 14, 2020 11:59
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JesusSinfulHands posted:best moment of the season is still Adam trying to play the podium idol if that would have been an idol it would have been one of the best tribal councils and guaranteed another season for adam.
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Zesty posted:That finale is quite something when you don't know for a fact who wins out of it. https://i.redd.it/iqqbgtlgdny41.jpg
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May 14, 2020 12:23
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That's not surprising given the scene he and Natalie had in the penultimate episode where she bought him an immunity necklace.
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May 14, 2020 13:18
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I think that was the best final three I've seen in a while. I was completely prepared to accept any of them winning. I'm really happy Tony won, though, because he is just such a fun player to watch.
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May 14, 2020 13:39
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Watching the fanbase do a 180 on Michele has been pretty wild. She may have got 0 votes but Tony just played an insane game for someone that was seen as an almost guaranteed early boot.
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May 14, 2020 13:45
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Genuinely baffled by the people who think Tony didn't deserve to win, particularly those advocating for Michele. The dude played a flawless game, even more impressively because he came in with the legacy of someone that should not have been allowed to control the game as he did. Zero votes against him. Four individual immunity wins. Idol finds. It arguably could have been 16-0 if not for Natalie receiving votes from her EoE BFFs (Parv, Ethan, Tyson) and real life BFF (Jeremy). Rob's win in Redemption Island previously held the title of most dominant win but was skewed by the abysmal caliber of the competition. Tony surpassed it against all winners! G O A T. Shneak posted:Guessing 12 - 4 - 0 for Tony. Good call, dude.
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As someone who watched Season 1, then didn't start watching again until 37, this was the best of the recent seasons. - If I recall, Nick was somewhat of a late season surprise. The whole season was Christian's, and once he was eliminated, it was anyone's game. His big thing was his social game, and I think he tried the same here, but man, he was terrible. - I think Michele's game is harder to judge fairly. It is remarkable that she was consistently on the outs, but managed to fight her way to the end. She was also correct in a lot of her assumptions. Things may have played out differently if Nick realized he should have eliminated Ben. - I did not respect Tony's game at the beginning. Thought he was way too much of a wild card, and that he would eliminate himself early. But there was always a method to his madness, and he had great instincts. Sure, he always played from the power position, but he managed those relationships well. - Wendell was the absolute worst.
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Professor Shark posted:I honestly think that Natalie played a better game than Tony lol, which game was that?
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OFFICER LIGER posted:This was a real fun season. Definitely the best season of the 40s so far. If we were to rank the best season of each generation of survivor where do you guys line em up? S1-9: I watched very little of it to remember, but I'd say probably Pearl Islands. Having recently rewatched it it's not as strong as I remember (2003 Rupert does not translate well into 2020), but Burton actually helps that season. S10-19: Yup, Micronesia. Honestly there are so many strong contenders here (Tocantins, China, Gabon) but Micronesia's second half was such a joy. S20-29: I think HvV. Which is weird because on paper, losing Courtney, J.T. and Cirie so early stinks and having to put up with Russell for the whole season is, urgh. But there was so much good here. And despite Cagayan's great start, I'm not a huge fan of Cagayan Tony. S30-39: Hmm. I'd probably say DvG. The 30s were weird in that the seasons were either boring, or had some horribly ugly parts (Worlds Apart, Koah Rong, IoI). I like EoE more than most people, but probably not enough.
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1-9: All-Stars. Its one of the darker and least "fun" seasons but I think it probably speaks more to what this game is about than any other single season. 10-19: Tocantins. There are a lot of great seasons here in this run but a lot of my favorite characters are introduced in Tocantins. 20-29: Heroes vs. Villains. Probably the most fun season of the show for me. Arguably Sandra at the height of her powers. 30-39: David vs. Goliath. I might switch this to something else with time but this was just a solid season with a ton of fun characters and an effective theme.
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S1-9: Pearl Islands S10-19: Micronesia S20-29: Heroes vs Villains S30-39: David vs Goliath easy. Sand Monster posted:Good call, dude. Thought Amber was going to be a vote for Natalie instead of Ethan but I should've known Rob would have a say in that.
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That was a very satisfying finale. One of the most masterful wins to date by Tony. Dude had a near perfect read on the game from the merge onwards. He made all the right moves, forged the ideal alliance (which he stayed true to, impressively), kicked rear end in immunity and firemaking challenges, and overall did a great job of adapting his personality to the game. Did anybody else predict that he would harness his Tony-isms so skillfully? I definitely didn't. I mean, he turned part of final TC into a stand-up comedy special. Incredible. Also, surprised that the Sophie blindside never got brought up (on TV, at least). That seemed like the most important move of the game to me. Nat and Michelle are both terrific people and competitors (good lord, what a refreshing final 3 in contrast to the last EoE), and though I won't shed any tears for an EoE returnee not winning, I think they each did admirable jobs of playing the respective hands they were dealt. I don't really blame Nat for not giving up immunity to take on Tony. She put the two biggest threats up against each other. It was a perfectly fair decision. If I had to nitpick anything, it'd be that maybe (and who knows with the editing) she didn't try hard enough to make Lacina going home instead of Ben more of a reality. Being able to pit Ben against Tony in firemaking (or convince him to give up immunity to take on Tony, in the case of him winning) changes everything. I know it was a close call, but I'd think you'd feel significantly more confident in Ben over Lacina in that situation 10 times out of 10. Anyway, great season. I don't share their optimism about getting season 41 on the air by fall, however. That seems like it...won't happen. Vernacular fucked around with this message at 17:01 on May 14, 2020 |
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I'm think the path to the final tribal needs to change. The way it goes now with the immunity winner picking one person while two people go to fire really does more for the people going to fire than it does for the immunity winner and the picked person is also getting kind of screwed. It might be better if the final immunity winner was just guaranteed a spot in the final tribal while all three of the others make fire (either one or two could then advance). The other option could be the final immunity challenge is at 5 and then the final four ALL have to make fire with either a final two or final three.
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why even vote at all? just make fire every 3 days, who ever makes fire the worst gets kicked off. instead of Jeff saying "the tribe has spoken" he can say "you're fired". hire me cbs.
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I know they added the firemaking portion because they were tired of the obvious "favorite" going out at F4 so consistently instead of being allowed a chance to make fire. While I get their reasons for changing it up, I don't really like what it's turned into.
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It's actually astonishing that everyone let Tony and Sarah go so far as a pair anyway. I wouldn't expect anything from Ben so I'm not surprised he sort of glommed on to them, but pretty disappointing out of Denise and Nick (and those who went before). Jeremy must have figured he could beat anyone so whatever. I've come around to Natalie blowing her two chances, which is too bad. She needed to take the chance of using the idol on Michele (oops Tony was immune, still should have done it to boot Sarah) or making fire against Tony. She did neither, and she had no shot with Tony at the end. Popero fucked around with this message at 16:53 on May 14, 2020 |
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I can understand Natalie's hesitation of not wanting to go head to head with Tony after winning immunity given how much work she put in to get back into the game, but yeah I think it's reasonable to assume that unless you are responsible for taking out the person you know everyone is praising on the jury, it doesn't matter if you make it to FTC.
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Ben was so weird this season. Like, he has the tight social bond with two people he could never beat, he protects them and ends up sacrificing himself for one of them, but then he also spends the rest of his time giving Jeremy the silent treatment, yelling at Adam, and being basically unlikable to everyone else. It's like the ultimate antisocial social game.
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Fast Luck posted:On KIA they were saying Natalie at least should have put Michele against Tony. If Michele wins, boom, there goes your biggest threat. If Tony wins, maybe he and Sarah will split a bunch of votes. Instead she put the two leaders in it against each other, so one of them was going to get to slay the other and carry their combined game alone into FTC. Michelle got zero votes though so replacing her with Lacina doesn't put any votes up for grabs that Natalie could gain, which means that, no matter how the votes split between Tony and Lacina, Nat either finishes second or third.
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Fast Luck posted:Ben was so weird this season. Like, he has the tight social bond with two people he could never beat, he protects them and ends up sacrificing himself for one of them, but then he also spends the rest of his time giving Jeremy the silent treatment, yelling at Adam, and being basically unlikable to everyone else. It's like the ultimate antisocial social game. I love this take of his selfless act actually costing Sarah the game too (they vote out Michele, Ben beats Tony in fire, Sarah beats Ben and Natalie in FTC)!
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Fast Luck posted:Ben was so weird this season. Like, he has the tight social bond with two people he could never beat, he protects them and ends up sacrificing himself for one of them, but then he also spends the rest of his time giving Jeremy the silent treatment, yelling at Adam, and being basically unlikable to everyone else. It's like the ultimate antisocial social game. Ben just loving sucks. Stokes posted:Tyson must have been getting a lot of poo poo because he straight up deleted every single tweet on his account. Survivor fans are weird as hell. I'm annoyed Michelle didn't get any votes but I'm not going to go flame people about it. The jury system is a jury system, it's just how the jury members feel. Just like a legal jury, part of the gamble you take with leaving fate up to such a horrible thing as a human being. You're also deluding yourself if you don't think the overwhelming majority of all Survivor winners weren't chosen on a similar basis. I don't care what kind of game you played, if you're a crap person I don't like or care for, no way in hell I'm ever electing to give you a million dollars.
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Popero posted:I love this take of his selfless act actually costing Sarah the game too (they vote out Michele, Ben beats Tony in fire, Sarah beats Ben and Natalie in FTC)! And alternately, Natalie's best (and possibly only) path to victory at that point was idoling out Sarah and having Ben beat Tony in fire so she could go against Michele and Ben in FTC
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Fast Luck posted:Ben was so weird this season. Like, he has the tight social bond with two people he could never beat, he protects them and ends up sacrificing himself for one of them, but then he also spends the rest of his time giving Jeremy the silent treatment, yelling at Adam, and being basically unlikable to everyone else. It's like the ultimate antisocial social game. Weasel Ben
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