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Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

food court bailiff posted:

I think I unironically believe this - when I was a kid I loved Monopoly Jr. and was excited to receive the “grown up” version as a gift....until I played it.

I think I might have only played Monopoly Jr, so I've never understood why people disliked the game

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Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



How does Jr. differ from normal monopoly?

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Slimnoid posted:

If you want true horror Monopoly, look no further than the two Star Trek boards released in 1998 and 2000: Star Trek Limited Edition Monopoly and Star Trek: The Next Generation Collector's Edition Monopoly.

They were two of a planned (but never finished) four-game set that could all link together to form a giant mega-board. Just in case you wanted to take an entire week to complete a game.

I have some notion that you could get mileage out of a Monopoly "hack" that bolted on an entire side game of organized crime that you participate in most when you've otherwise clearly lost control of the game board.

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



All this talk about how terrible Monopoly and the different versions of it are and no one mentioned this thing yet?

senrath
Nov 4, 2009

Look Professor, a destruct switch!


Zereth posted:

How does Jr. differ from normal monopoly?

Money values are way lower (everything is single digits), the board is smaller, you have to buy properties you land on, the amount you get when someone lands on your property is the same as what you paid for it (or double if you have both properties in a monopoly), there are no property improvements, you can't mortgage properties and the game ends as soon as one person is bankrupt. There's probably some other changes I'm not remembering. But it makes the game way faster.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


HerraS posted:

All this talk about how terrible Monopoly and the different versions of it are and no one mentioned this thing yet?




Sodomy Hussein posted:

Monopoly is basically the Budweiser of board games and their new creative direction aside from decades of lazy merchandising tie-ins is stuff designed to appeal to right-wing boomers.

https://www.polygon.com/2019/8/27/20830085/monopoly-socialism-board-game-hasbro-target

:smith: (Monopoly Socialism review!)

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

Fun Shoe

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Monopoly is basically the Budweiser of board games and their new creative direction aside from decades of lazy merchandising tie-ins is stuff designed to appeal to right-wing boomers.

https://www.polygon.com/2019/8/27/20830085/monopoly-socialism-board-game-hasbro-target

i feel like budweiser has more value to beer than monopoly does to boardgames

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Budweiser has a place as a cheap summertime BBQ beer. Or as an alternative to the Pine-Sol flavored IPAs everybody brought to parties back when we had parties.

No situation improved by introducing monopoly.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


I can't think of what the board game equivalent of a Bud Light Lime is.

ElegantFugue
Jun 5, 2012

moths posted:

Budweiser has a place as a cheap summertime BBQ beer. Or as an alternative to the Pine-Sol flavored IPAs everybody brought to parties back when we had parties.

No situation improved by introducing monopoly.

Elaborate heist plot where one of the steps is a flashback to a scene where a player convinced two guards to play Monopoly so that they would hate each other as a result and be easy to distract.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

As a kid we had a game called Advance To Boardwalk, a Monopoly spin-off, and I recall liking it. It's... not a great game, but OK, in that it's not fundamentally broken the way Monopoly is. Also, actual gameplay has very little to do with the original Monopoly, and the game could just as easily have been branded differently. Nevertheless, I say it counts, and therefore Advance To Boardwalk is the best version of Monopoly.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I've heard rumors that Monopoly is better if you play it 100% RAW, but fuuuck that.

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora

moths posted:

I've heard rumors that Monopoly is better if you play it 100% RAW, but fuuuck that.

It absolutely is better, but better doesn't mean good.

senrath
Nov 4, 2009

Look Professor, a destruct switch!


Yup. If you play it RAW all the properties get snapped up pretty quickly and there's no random cash injections, so the games actually have a chance to end. But, uh, it's still not a fun framework under all that.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
It's faster, viciously cutthroat, and probably baby's first exposure to player elimination.

LongDarkNight
Oct 25, 2010

It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.
Oven Wrangler
As a kid I learned a novel way to cheat on my dice rolls. It worked pretty well until my dad got wise, took me out back and beat my rear end. My family hasn't played Monopoly since so it wasn't a total loss. In summary Monopoly is bad.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

I played the toddler version of Monopoly with my niece, and it's loving ghastly. There's nothing that takes money out of the cycle, and all the payments are the say, so you just move around passing the same few notes back and forth and I had to cheat as hard as I could to lose money so that the game would actually loving end.

I know we can't expect much from a game for 4 year olds, but none of the games she has actually get to the end point. You just move round and round and round and round. It's like if Snakes and Ladders doubled the number of snakes, so you'd never get to the end.

Desiden
Mar 13, 2016

Mindless self indulgence is SRS BIZNS

Lumbermouth posted:

I can't think of what the board game equivalent of a Bud Light Lime is.

Not sure on lime, but that horrible Bud Light Clamato they did in the aughts is definitely Kingdom Death.

Nickoten
Oct 16, 2005

Now there'll be some quiet in this town.
If anyone is interested in playing a faster, more fun version of Monopoly that uses the same basic concepts, I would recommend the video game Itadaki Street. It has a stock element that lets you anticipate what properties are going to make money and take a cut of it through investment. Plus depending on the version you get to do it as Sephiroth or a Dragon Quest slime or whatever.

I Am Just a Box
Jul 20, 2011
I belong here. I contain only inanimate objects. Nothing is amiss.

senrath posted:

Yup. If you play it RAW all the properties get snapped up pretty quickly and there's no random cash injections, so the games actually have a chance to end. But, uh, it's still not a fun framework under all that.

Yeah. Remember its origin as the educational Landlord's Game. Under RAW it's designed to propel towards a death march where one player's advantages snowball until they're unstoppable and it's just a matter of time until they squeeze everyone else dry. That's the lesson it was designed to teach.

Monopoly's pretty well designed from the perspective of its original creator's intent. It's just, that intent was never to be a fun party game with friends.

Elephant Parade
Jan 20, 2018

every time someone explains how Monopoly's origins as Landlord's Game explain its unpleasantness I tear a hair out of my head. I am three explanations away from going bald

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Elephant Parade posted:

every time someone explains how Monopoly's origins as Landlord's Game explain its unpleasantness I tear a hair out of my head. I am three explanations away from going bald

hey did you know that monopoly was originally a game about the ravages of capitalism called the landlord's game and that's why it sucks so much because capitalism is like that

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Elephant Parade posted:

every time someone explains how Monopoly's origins as Landlord's Game explain its unpleasantness I tear a hair out of my head. I am three explanations away from going bald

hey did you know that monopoly was originally a game about the ravages of capitalism called the landlord's game and that's why it sucks so much because capitalism is like that

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Elephant Parade posted:

every time someone explains how Monopoly's origins as Landlord's Game explain its unpleasantness I tear a hair out of my head. I am three explanations away from going bald

hey did you know that monopoly was originally a game about the ravages of capitalism called the landlord's game and that's why it sucks so much because capitalism is like that

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



lol

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

sorry about your impending baldness

senrath
Nov 4, 2009

Look Professor, a destruct switch!


Nickoten posted:

If anyone is interested in playing a faster, more fun version of Monopoly that uses the same basic concepts, I would recommend the video game Itadaki Street. It has a stock element that lets you anticipate what properties are going to make money and take a cut of it through investment. Plus depending on the version you get to do it as Sephiroth or a Dragon Quest slime or whatever.

Yeah, Fortune Street's actually pretty fun.

Fsmhunk
Jul 19, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Arivia posted:

hey did you know that monopoly was originally a game about the ravages of capitalism called the landlord's game and that's why it sucks so much because capitalism is like that

Lmao, ruthless.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
Lex Luther and Superman, Dr. Robotnik and Sonic the Hedgehog, Elephant Parade and Arivia

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

moths posted:

I've heard rumors that Monopoly is better if you play it 100% RAW, but fuuuck that.

I used to play Monopoly with my friends every year whenever we'd meet for our shared birthdays, and yes, if you play it as-is-where-is, it doesn't drag and is absolutely brutal. I never even heard of people doing all that poo poo about house rules for extra money until I was terminally online.

It doesn't last very long at all, and we'd regularly go through three, four games in a night.

I wouldn't say it's good, per se, but some of the reputation for precisely how bad it is, is just a smidge unearned.

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer

Desiden posted:

Bud Light Clamato
What the gently caress

Desiden
Mar 13, 2016

Mindless self indulgence is SRS BIZNS

Hollandia posted:

What the gently caress




Dear god, they're still making a variant of it it seems.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Glad the Monopoly Stans are out in force.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Desiden posted:




Dear god, they're still making a variant of it it seems.

It’s apparently really popular among Latinos.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

Lord_Hambrose posted:

Glad the Monopoly Stans are out in force.

Has there been a single person in this thread that’s said that Monopoly is fun?

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

Arivia posted:

It’s apparently really popular among Latinos.

It's basically a michelada in a can, and a michelada in both the tomato juice and bovril versions is one of these things where they're completely inexplicable and disgusting until you have had them twice and then you get addicted.

Omnicrom
Aug 3, 2007
Snorlax Afficionado


thetoughestbean posted:

Has there been a single person in this thread that’s said that Monopoly is fun?

Nope. At most we've had people pointing out alternatives to Monopoly that are fun.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


Notahippie posted:

It's basically a michelada in a can, and a michelada in both the tomato juice and bovril versions is one of these things where they're completely inexplicable and disgusting until you have had them twice and then you get addicted.

Oh man you can do a michelada with beef broth? I had to stop drinking them because of my acid reflux and gently caress do I miss how good one of those tastes when you’ve been working construction for eight hours.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
I've always been amused by Illuminopoly. Pardon any frivolous fnords.

http://www.gamecabinet.com/rules/Illuminopoly.html

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Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

Lumbermouth posted:

Oh man you can do a michelada with beef broth? I had to stop drinking them because of my acid reflux and gently caress do I miss how good one of those tastes when you’ve been working construction for eight hours.

I think it's a regional style within Mexico? It's what I got used to in Austin - the bar I used to hang out in solely did micheladas in that style, and called a tomato juice michelada a "cubano," but the only other place I've found that does it like that was at a wedding in Playa del Carmen. Here's a recipe that looks pretty close to what I make at home, except I double all the non-lime non-beer ingredients https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/8456-michelada

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