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I somehow got more endgame gear from silver item seeds (probably from the whole "more of them means more chances"). Gold item seeds seem to give me more permanent stat up stuff.
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They can all give you gear, but what specific item per type you're getting from a seed is fixed when you loot it. Every seed can either grow into a piece of equipment, a consumable or a serum. The specific version (eg. weapon X, chocolate or strength serum) will not change but you can save-scum to get the gear if it's a piece you want.
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May 13, 2020 19:43
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Well I think I just found the perfect trash mobs murder team post game. Kevin, Charlotte and Riesz, after class 4 spheres and their chain abilities, plus the lil cactus chain ability means you'll go into each battle adding 200% of your CS gauge. I have Kevin use Seiryu Strike immediately and that almost always kills all enemies. If not, Riesz will use Seraph which finishes everyone off. After the battle, the chain abilities I have set up refill the CS gauge a bit and refill all my MP.
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May 13, 2020 23:02
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Ugh, while Anise's Stockade is mildly interesting at least in the aesthetic department the first time around, on 2nd and 3rd playthroughs it's gratingly annoying. The fact that NG+ is locked behind it makes it even worse.
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May 14, 2020 05:51
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Having just finished my second play through, I 100% agree. It’s really nothing special, and I definitely already had “Final Dungeon Fatigue” going in both times which didn’t help.
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May 14, 2020 06:21
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Poque posted:Lmao Duran just talked about "getting his steps in" at the Moon Tower. He's such a dork in this version and it rules. I fuckin’ love his kinda-psychotic laugh in combat. He’s clearly living his best life. E: also I feel like NG+ Anise is when you’re supposed to try to get the clear time as low as possible. You already have all 99s from the 300% XP ability and like 99% of chain abilities so you should have all the tools necessary to get that kill in under a minute. jokes fucked around with this message at 07:43 on May 14, 2020 |
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jokes posted:E: also I feel like NG+ Anise is when you’re supposed to try to get the clear time as low as possible. You already have all 99s from the 300% XP ability and like 99% of chain abilities so you should have all the tools necessary to get that kill in under a minute. Depending on your party and classes you can perfectly do it on your first run. Dark Kevin with Dark Duran/Light Charlotte assist is a good option. Or just Angela. Angela is all you'll ever need. Fear Angela. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JxZHT4kqw8
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May 14, 2020 08:53
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The stat up items seem broken and I only get actual stats up if I use them on my main character. I used a luck one on Hawk who had 14 luck and it didn't go up to 15 for sure. Unless they have to be the character I'm controlling?
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May 14, 2020 09:08
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Taear posted:The stat up items seem broken and I only get actual stats up if I use them on my main character. Maybe they break if you use them in a town when your party splits? I know for sure I've seen my party members HP/MP increase when I used the Vitality/Magic Elixir on them, but can't remember if it was on the field or in a town. Speaking of, the tooltip says you can only get a limited amount. Is this forever, or can you get more on a NG+? Do the stat increase from items carry over to NG+? I fed all my Strength Serums on my 1st and 2nd playthrough to Kevin, and haven't gotten any at all on my 3rd playthrough
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May 14, 2020 09:15
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It was in town - you'd think that most people would have attempted it in town though since that's where you actually get the item.
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May 14, 2020 09:29
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lezard_valeth posted:Ugh, while Anise's Stockade is mildly interesting at least in the aesthetic department the first time around, on 2nd and 3rd playthroughs it's gratingly annoying. I'm fairly sure it's not locked behind it?
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May 14, 2020 09:44
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Arkeus posted:I'm fairly sure it's not locked behind it? Nope, you most certainly have to beat Anise to unlock NG+, even on 2nd+ playthroughs  The file I had selected was my 3rd playthrough, after beating the final boss but before beating Anise
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May 14, 2020 09:55
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Is there anyway to just get rid of a bunch of money or get my character to shut the gently caress up about how much I have? In this case Angela's said the same lines about being rich so often it's driving me up a wall.
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May 14, 2020 10:06
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sigher posted:Is there anyway to just get rid of a bunch of money or get my character to shut the gently caress up about how much I have? In this case Angela's said the same lines about being rich so often it's driving me up a wall. So basically, no.
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May 14, 2020 10:08
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Taear posted:The stat up items seem broken and I only get actual stats up if I use them on my main character. I wonder if you’ve maybe confused the stat itself with Training points? I did that at first too
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timp posted:I wonder if you’ve maybe confused the stat itself with Training points? I did that at first too Yeah it's this. Hawk should have way more than 14 luck.
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May 14, 2020 14:27
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timp posted:I wonder if you’ve maybe confused the stat itself with Training points? I did that at first too Oooh poo poo. No I thought the potions gave training points. Well that makes sense.
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May 14, 2020 15:19
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Playing through Anise stockade last night with class 4 dark Angela and I paused the game to get a drink. When I got back my wife was like "I am giving Angela some major side eye right now" and I was like "More like some major side boob an I right?" I offered a high five but did not receive one
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May 14, 2020 15:21
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Taear posted:Oooh poo poo. No I thought the potions gave training points. Press triangle (X on Switch) on the main pause menu to see their actual stats.
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May 14, 2020 15:52
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Sure am glad that I can boost Angela's INT all the way from 242 to 243, real big difference that's going to make.
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May 14, 2020 16:10
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How is this remake compared to the original? I played the demo and it was pretty fun (bad voice acting aside) but idk am I better off just getting the mana collection or what. I haven't really played much of these games besides playing some of the Adventure remake on my phone a while back and bouncing off of Sword of Mana very hard back in the day because of its cutscenes being really long and boring.
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May 14, 2020 17:08
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Press triangle (X on Switch) on the main pause menu to see their actual stats. It's R or something on PC and it's not that, I specifically thought the potions gave training points in that stat Since they don't it feels like they're really lovely. Augus posted:How is this remake compared to the original? I played the demo and it was pretty fun (bad voice acting aside) but idk am I better off just getting the mana collection or what. I haven't really played much of these games besides playing some of the Adventure remake on my phone a while back and bouncing off of Sword of Mana very hard back in the day because of its cutscenes being really long and boring. It's a billion times better than the original and there's no reason AT ALL to get the original now. And I say that as someone who loved Secret of Mana and SK3.
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Augus posted:How is this remake compared to the original? I played the demo and it was pretty fun (bad voice acting aside) but idk am I better off just getting the mana collection or what. I haven't really played much of these games besides playing some of the Adventure remake on my phone a while back and bouncing off of Sword of Mana very hard back in the day because of its cutscenes being really long and boring. This game owns. It's much better than the original. To be fair I haven't played the original as long as this, but I had a lot of fun with this game.
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May 14, 2020 17:25
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To be honest the remake hasn't completely replaced the original for me, mainly because the spritework in the original is absolutely gorgeous. If it also happened to be bug free then the two would be of equal ranking for me. The remake is really goddamn good though.
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Augus posted:How is this remake compared to the original? I played the demo and it was pretty fun (bad voice acting aside) but idk am I better off just getting the mana collection or what. I haven't really played much of these games besides playing some of the Adventure remake on my phone a while back and bouncing off of Sword of Mana very hard back in the day because of its cutscenes being really long and boring. It's an absolutely fantastic remake that innovates in several key areas while staying surprisingly faithful to the original in others. If you've played the Secret of Mana remake, it's night and day compared to that.
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Taear posted:It's R or something on PC and it's not that, I specifically thought the potions gave training points in that stat You get exactly enough training points to max out each stat so it wouldn’t really make sense to randomly get extra ones. Anyway, stat up potions are nice, I don’t agree that they are useless. Giving Angela a boost in HP or Stamina is helpful, for example.
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May 14, 2020 17:42
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That's good to hear, guess I'll give it a go
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I'm hopeful for future Squenix given that they seem to have learned from feedback to both the Octopath demo and the SoM remake.
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Poque posted:I'm hopeful for future Squenix given that they seem to have learned from feedback to both the Octopath demo and the SoM remake. Does SoM (assuming you mean secret of mana) count as a remake? Wasn't it just a remaster?
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May 14, 2020 18:43
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Yeah, star anise is probably a bit too long. The floating platform transportation pad areas weren't necessary. What level is high enough to beat the black rabite? I've got my team around 77 on medium, with my two strongest characters (Kevin and Riesz) equipped with their class 4 weapons.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:You get exactly enough training points to max out each stat so it wouldn’t really make sense to randomly get extra ones. Anyway, stat up potions are nice, I don’t agree that they are useless. Giving Angela a boost in HP or Stamina is helpful, for example. I saved mine over 2 playthroughs and used them all on Level 1 Charlotte in my last NG+. She was my main character, so getting a boost at the start (especially to ATK) sped things up a bit.
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Augus posted:How is this remake compared to the original? I played the demo and it was pretty fun (bad voice acting aside) but idk am I better off just getting the mana collection or what. I haven't really played much of these games besides playing some of the Adventure remake on my phone a while back and bouncing off of Sword of Mana very hard back in the day because of its cutscenes being really long and boring. I don't think it's really a choice in terms of better/worse. If you want to play an old SNES game that has aged pretty well, get the collection. If you want to play something that hearkens back to that age but is updated with modern gaming sensibilities, the remake is perfect. If you're like me and like both of those things, or you want to experience the same story in two vastly different media, get both. I do think that playing the original first lets you appreciate the remake at another level.
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Taear posted:Does SoM (assuming you mean secret of mana) count as a remake? Wasn't it just a remaster? Generally, a remaster uses the original assets, but polished up. FFX is a really good example, they are using the same engine and models from 2001 but with much higher resolution textures. SoM, like SD3, was remade in a new engine.
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seiferguy posted:Yeah, star anise is probably a bit too long. The floating platform transportation pad areas weren't necessary. I managed to beat him at around level 70 with Duran, Charlotte and Hawkeye, all D/L Class 4. I believe only Charlotte had her Class 4 weapon, but I definitely had to spam Cups at one point. I think I got lucky when Charlotte wound up the one up when I failed interrupting a Primal attack and it dropped a meteor on her adorable, magic resistant self.
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The main problem with Dark Rabite is that some of his attacks do enough damage to one shot squishier characters, and the AI is not particularly good at moving away from them (namely the one where it grows big and does a body slam).
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Anybody remember the teleporter path in the anise lair? I'm about to do it again and would like to just blaze through preferably. Springs I could at least visually see where they went
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May 14, 2020 20:20
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seiferguy posted:Yeah, star anise is probably a bit too long. The floating platform transportation pad areas weren't necessary. That will be fine for beating it, my team of Kev/Rieze/Charlotte beat it on Hard at around 70 so 77 on medium is totally doable.
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Defiance Industries posted:Generally, a remaster uses the original assets, but polished up. FFX is a really good example, they are using the same engine and models from 2001 but with much higher resolution textures. SoM, like SD3, was remade in a new engine. Remaster would be new engine/voice/art assets but fundamentally the same game at its core. So Warcraft3: Reforged and Spyro: Reignited use all new art, but play exactly the same as the original. In theory, you could record controller inputs then replay them in both versions and expect similar results. Then remake is when the game itself changes completely. Resident evil 2, RE3, Final Fantasy 7 and Trials of Mana reuse storylines and characters, but play totally differently from the original games.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Anybody remember the teleporter path in the anise lair? I'm about to do it again and would like to just blaze through preferably. Springs I could at least visually see where they went  I took a screenshot of the full map and wanted to make my own, but 
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Defiance Industries posted:Generally, a remaster uses the original assets, but polished up. FFX is a really good example, they are using the same engine and models from 2001 but with much higher resolution textures. SoM, like SD3, was remade in a new engine. Feels like they wasted their time since it looks and feels identical.
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