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A couple of hours ago authorities announced the Polish presidential election that were supposed to take place this Sunday will be postponed, probably until July. PiS in their usual fashion made a mess of a simple decision that should have been announced weeks ago. I guess they are afraid that "the pen"* won't get elected once true economic impact hits. *President Andrzej Duda, whose authority and personal commitment is limited only to signing anything Kaczyński wants.
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Even Russia scaled back its Victory Day celebration. Not Belarus.    At least the babushka gets it.
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Surprisingly, outside of Minsk, there were almost no celebrations. Barely even any people with St. George ribbons or apple flower badges. Local government officials laid flowers at WWII monuments accompanied by a handful of soldiers and military students, as usual, but very few places organised concerts and large-scale events one would expect on V-Day.
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Ukraine is really doing a lot to fight its reputation as a den of neo-nazis! https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/police-officer-requests-official-list-of-all-jews-in-ukrainian-city-sparking-fury-1.8837491 quote:“Please provide us the following information regarding the Orthodox Jewish religious community of Kolomyya, namely: The organization’s charter; list of members of the Jewish religious community, with indication of data, mobile phones and their places of residence,” read the letter. wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 21:54 on May 11, 2020 |
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Ironically, Kolomyya is the place that gave the name to Ihor Kolomoyskyi, the oligarch who sponsored Zelenskyi's presidential campaign.
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This is just fantastic.
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Vasukhani posted:Ukraine is really doing a lot to fight its reputation as a den of neo-nazis! Representing foreign governments as a unified monolith: almost never accurate, but your readers don't care and you're on deadline: https://twitter.com/Mortis_Banned/status/1259724213809799172
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May 12, 2020 21:07
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CMYK BLYAT! posted:Representing foreign governments as a unified monolith: almost never accurate, but your readers don't care and you're on deadline: So I read Ukrainian, and this guy's take literally changes nothing? https://twitter.com/Mortis_Banned/status/1259724911930679297 Ah see, racial profiling is not the official public policy of the FBI, so therefore racism is a much smaller issue in the US than you believe.
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Vasukhani posted:So I read Ukrainian, and this guy's take literally changes nothing? Err, could you misrepresent what he said any more than that? The fact that the letter is hideously anti-semitic and written by an anti-semitic head of a regional police force isn't under contention here. He also doesn't gloss over the fact that one of the most powerful people in the Police is a white supremacist etc. What is under contention is whether the Ukraine is entirely run by an anti-semitic, fascist, junta, which is exactly what that thread addresses. Including the fact that certain Jews are being cast as "not real Jews" since them being so is inconvenient for the narrative people are pushing. Similar to more liberal Jews supporting Corbyn were cast as fake and or apostates by the more conservative Jewish organizations there.
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Munin posted:What is under contention is whether the Ukraine is entirely run by an anti-semitic, fascist, junta, which is exactly what that thread addresses. Never implied that, just some top cops with hard-ons to catch some 19th-century style jewish gangsters really doesnt help that perception! Not to mention an official policy of "both sides-ing" WW2 wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 22:13 on May 12, 2020 |
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May 12, 2020 22:10
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Vasukhani posted:Never implied that, just some top cops with hard-ons to catch some 19th-century style jewish gangsters really doesnt help that perception! Not to mention an official policy of "both sides-ing" WW2 In that case I don't think there is much disagreement between you and the guy who posted that Twitter thread. I don't think that he thinks that the current people with strong influence over a lot of the police force are not a big problem. Also, given their history with the Russian Empire then the Soviet Union it is kinda understandable that they don't entirely cast the Nazis as the sole bad guy of the piece. Finland has similar issues in certain regards due to having fought on the wrong side of that conflict but not due to any particular love of the Nazis and their policies. That is yet another issue though which, whilst also having ties to the anti-semitism stuff due to the whole fash Nazi loving contingent, also has a slew of other stuff and motivations tied into it which has very little to do with the love of Nazis.
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"Both sides-ing" WW2 is perfectly understandable if your country was unlucky enough to be "liberated" by the Soviets. Or, y'know, attacked by them, like Poland or Finland.
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anilEhilated posted:"Both sides-ing" WW2 is perfectly understandable if your country was unlucky enough to be "liberated" by the Soviets. Or, y'know, attacked by them, like Poland or Finland. little different when instead of being "liberated" by the Soviets, you literally were the soviets, and your german-armed "national liberation movement" had a penchant for nailing polish children to walls
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Vasukhani posted:little different when instead of being "liberated" by the Soviets, you literally were the soviets, and your german-armed "national liberation movement" had a penchant for nailing polish children to walls anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 18:42 on May 13, 2020 |
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May 13, 2020 18:40
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anilEhilated posted:That's just whataboutism, though - doesn't change anything about what the Soviets did and what today's Russia is hellbent on whitewashing. the evil foreign occupiers of Ukraine -- the Ukrainians! We were so close to being a liberated nation, complete free from any slavs outside of the reservations! We would all not even exist! Clearly, the fact that Ukraine even exists today shows that both sides were really equally bad. Russians pretending they are the owners of Soviet history is dumb, just as much as Ukrainians pretending that every Soviet was Russian. wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 19:11 on May 13, 2020 |
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Vasukhani posted:the evil foreign occupiers of Ukraine -- the Ukrainians! We were so close to being a liberated nation, complete free from any slavs outside of the reservations! We would all not even exist! Clearly, the fact that Ukraine even exists today shows that both sides were really equally bad. You're forgetting that Western Ukraine was under Poland from 1921 to 1939, and that's exactly the territory where more people view USSR's role in WWII primarily as occupiers. So, it makes sense at the very least, even if you disagree. And, well, Russia's current involvement in Ukraine doesn't help with that at all. The actual problem is that this view was (and to a lesser extent still is) promoted as the official state ideology, to the point where the last surviving veteran of SS Galicia had a state-sponsored funeral with SS cosplayers in full nazi uniforms with zero repercussions to anyone involved, while openly displaying a Soviet flag is much more likely to land you in prison, or at least lead to some troubles with the police or 'patriotic activists' (in some cases they are one and the same). Of course, technically, both nazi and communist symbols are illegal in Ukraine, but the latter is just punished more often. Not to mention that state propaganda is more eager to overlook blemishes in biographies of OUN and UPA heroes, while Soviet WWII generals are under much more scrutiny, especially when it comes to things like naming streets or erecting/demolishing monuments and statues. It's... not ideal.
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Paladinus posted:You're forgetting that Western Ukraine was under Poland from 1921 to 1939, and that's exactly the territory where more people view USSR's role in WWII primarily as occupiers. So, it makes sense at the very least, even if you disagree. And, well, Russia's current involvement in Ukraine doesn't help with that at all. To be fair there's a lot more soviet memorials to remove than nazi ones, seeing as the Ukraine was actually run by them for many decades and they certainly were not keen on celebrating nazis (whether real or imagined ones).
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Private Speech posted:To be fair there's a lot more soviet memorials to remove than nazi ones, seeing as the Ukraine was actually run by them for many decades and they certainly were not keen on celebrating nazis (whether real or imagined ones). and lest we have no monumental statues, we can always replace a Lenin with a Bandera! Always struck me as an odd figure to be obsessed with, he like spent most of his life in prison or as a rather pathetic gangster wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 03:13 on May 14, 2020 |
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I thought Ukraine was the original Russia?
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Vasukhani posted:the evil foreign occupiers of Ukraine -- the Ukrainians! We were so close to being a liberated nation, complete free from any slavs outside of the reservations! We would all not even exist! Clearly, the fact that Ukraine even exists today shows that both sides were really equally bad. As we all know of course the only true Soviet was Georgian. The Ukrainian was only fit for an ice pick, have his movement reduced to pamphlets and being derided by good Communists everywhere.
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spacetoaster posted:I thought Ukraine was the original Russia? Kievan Rus the Original Rus. Too bad Mongols screwed them.
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Kievan Rus was Swedish! Rus = Roslagen, see?
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Are there crazy Swedish "ancient fuckyuge empire" theories that all the cool nations have? (Alexander of Macedon was totally an Albanian)
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alex314 posted:Are there crazy Swedish "ancient fuckyuge empire" theories that all the cool nations have? (Alexander of Macedon was totally an Albanian) There are crazy Finnish ones. One especially productive dude (Wettenhovi-Aspa) made up theories explaining how the ancient egyptian language was actually Finnish. There is also a modern pseudohistory/conspiracy theory about the Ancient Kings of Finland. Tldr: supposedly there was a Finnish kingdom in the Iron Age that was so big and scary that the Vatican and all other kingdoms everywhere teamed up to destroy it and supress even archeological evidence of its existence.
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Ataxerxes posted:There are crazy Finnish ones. One especially productive dude (Wettenhovi-Aspa) made up theories explaining how the ancient egyptian language was actually Finnish. There is also a modern pseudohistory/conspiracy theory about the Ancient Kings of Finland. Tldr: supposedly there was a Finnish kingdom in the Iron Age that was so big and scary that the Vatican and all other kingdoms everywhere teamed up to destroy it and supress even archeological evidence of its existence. Lest we forget the fallen in the Finno-Korean Hyperwar!
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alex314 posted:Are there crazy Swedish "ancient fuckyuge empire" theories that all the cool nations have? (Alexander of Macedon was totally an Albanian)
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I guess Rurik and team went native really fast, but I'm pulling it from my rear end based on those lands using cirillic writing system and taking Constantinople as a source of faith instead of Latin and Rome used in the rest of Norse influenced lands.
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alex314 posted:I guess Rurik and team went native really fast, but I'm pulling it from my rear end based on those lands using cirillic writing system and taking Constantinople as a source of faith instead of Latin and Rome used in the rest of Norse influenced lands. A bunch of the ol' tales of the Kievan Rus are actually basically chronicles of fighting between colonizer and colonized. The tale of Saint Olga destroying the Drevlians is basically just a viking queen slaughtering the pesky natives. They probably stopped speaking Norse around Volodimir the great 980-ish.
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Paladinus posted:Lest we forget the fallen in the Finno-Korean Hyperwar! The original 2x thousand year Reich champion
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Paladinus posted:Lest we forget the fallen in the Finno-Korean Hyperwar! 
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US Secretary of State Pompeo brokered a deal with Belarus to buy US oil. It will be shipped to Belarus from Lithuania. https://twitter.com/LRTenglish/status/1262367920904118277 The news also hit this morning that Secretary Pompeo sold $8 billion in weapons to Saudi Arabia without notifying congress last year too.
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While Pompeo is such a massive piece of poo poo, it really piques my interest that there will be energy shipments by US into Belarus. I’m curious how Russia will respond (and when, Putin is not having a fantastic time right now).
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Batka's account got locked out due to too much unpaid stuff? Got to respect him for playing all sides.
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Here's the catch: they agreed on the deal when oil was -$40 so you're also paying Belarus to take it
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mobby_6kl posted:Here's the catch: they agreed on the deal when oil was -$40 so you're also paying Belarus to take it We're trying to gain favor with Belarus so they don't join the RF.
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It's probably worth it just so Sauron's eye get distracted by Batka's shenanigans a bit. It also prolongs unavoidable repeat of history with: "- we want land corridor between our lands - gently caress off, Poland is ready for war (Poland wasn't ready for war)"
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After his recent spats with Moscow, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if it was some kind of a neurotoxin variety of 'coronavirus'. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 23:19 on May 22, 2020 |
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You don't assassinate the champion of Allah and Vladimir Putin. The champion assassinates you!
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