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They should really un-nerf the Galakrond Shaman cards. I don't think that it would be anywhere near as oppressive as it was when it had Shudderwock, Spirit and Zentimo and would be a quick fix for a class that has nothing going for it, whereas a fix for Paladin would be much harder. It would actually farm the poo poo out of demon hunter as well so win/win!
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This game loves to give me legend/epic Druid cards and I have never enjoyed playing that class ever.
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May 14, 2020 18:01
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Doesn’t help that Druid is basically second only to Hunter for “what’s this crap?” for class legendaries.
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May 14, 2020 18:09
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You also had secret paladin.
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Firebert posted:They should really un-nerf the Galakrond Shaman cards. I don't think that it would be anywhere near as oppressive as it was when it had Shudderwock, Spirit and Zentimo and would be a quick fix for a class that has nothing going for it, whereas a fix for Paladin would be much harder. It would actually farm the poo poo out of demon hunter as well so win/win! The quick paladin fix: bring back divine favor.
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May 14, 2020 18:23
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Aaod posted:You also had secret paladin. Was anything better than blindly curving out minions while watching Netflix and drinking? Like play the slots but you win most of the time.
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May 14, 2020 18:57
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It’s almost kind of hilarious that Secret Paladin is functionally extinct even in Wild... because it’s just too slow without a big enough payoff to be worth it nowadays.
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May 14, 2020 19:27
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ultrachrist posted:The quick paladin fix: bring back divine favor. No
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May 14, 2020 19:50
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similarly, do not unnerf invocation of frost
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May 14, 2020 19:58
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Regalingualius posted:It’s almost kind of hilarious that Secret Paladin is functionally extinct even in Wild... because it’s just too slow without a big enough payoff to be worth it nowadays. The only paladin decks that seem to be competitive in wild are the obvious mech paladin, and the memey libram buff paladin (because Primalfin, Eydis and Lynessa exist) Card draw is king most of the time, and that shows in the decks that do well in both standard and wild. Speaking of Wild, I'm starting to think I know what a fix to Time Warp should be... It shouldn't refresh mana crystals on the second turn.
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May 14, 2020 22:45
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Isn’t the whole issue with it that the Mage also plays all of their giants the same turn, though?
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May 14, 2020 23:34
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Anyone have links/codes for optimized versions of of DH's demon crushers recipe, face hunter and whatever they call hunter decks that use Zixor and MokNathal lions?
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Regalingualius posted:Isn’t the whole issue with it that the Mage also plays all of their giants the same turn, though? You'd at least have a certain degree of counterplay, be able to throw taunts, etc. As it stands, they get a (usually) 10 mana to break through anything you do before the 32 to face.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Anyone have links/codes for optimized versions of of DH's demon crushers recipe, face hunter and whatever they call hunter decks that use Zixor and MokNathal lions? The third deck eventually eventually got optimized into the Face Hunter we see today AAECAR8Ch7AD+boDDqgCyQSIBe0GlwjbCf4M86cD+a4D+68D/K8DhbADorkD/7oDAA== Not sure what you're referring to by "demon crushers", but this is the best build I've seen that actually supports Priestess of Fury (still has room for optimization): AAECAea5AwTMugPDvAPEvAPaxgMN/acD+a4Di7oDvbsD4LwD1r4DusYDx8YD2cYD18gD98gD+cgD/sgDAA== both from vS Data Reaper Report #162 https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-162/
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AnacondaHL posted:The third deck eventually eventually got optimized into the Face Hunter we see today Thank you Demon Crushers is the "other" in-game recipe deck for DH where the focus is playing defense for a while and then tutoring out big demons.
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holy gently caress is Zephyrs not working right now I leave up 2 mana against a hanar with two secrets up and a couple 1/1 buddies, hoping for either flare or pain. I get my choice of flamestrike, tirion, or cleave. what the ever living gently caress is that poo poo
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May 15, 2020 02:49
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Zeph can't read and doesn't know Hanar is a must kill target despite being a 1/5. Since you're not under immediate danger it offered you two plays for next turn and a weirdass one for this turn. I think in general Zeph doesn't offer flare as much as desired. Often prefers the neutral secret hate minion if you have mana. This is a fun site to get a feel for how Zeph evaluates random board states: https://www.zephrys.xyz/
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It’ll only offer flare if your opponent has at least 2 secrets. If it’s 1 secret Zeph doesn’t give a poo poo. That’s my experience.
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I've been able to get the 5/4 neutral minion secret thing against mage in wild with an about even board state Also, this patch whips rear end so far in BGs, I broke 9k earlier today for the first time
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May 15, 2020 12:51
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peer posted:just got owled by a galakrond warlock. first owl i've seen in months What rank are you? I’ve been drowning in warriors for a couple days now, I think even more than DHs
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May 15, 2020 13:39
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:What rank are you? I’ve been drowning in warriors for a couple days now, I think even more than DHs diamond 2 currently. seen two warriors in my last 30 games
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May 15, 2020 13:40
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legend is where warriorland truly begins. not seen a shaman, druid or paladin in what feels like weeks
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Blasmeister posted:legend is where warriorland truly begins. not seen a shaman, druid or paladin in what feels like weeks I had to switch to warrior in silver/gold because I lost 13 straight games as face hunter queued into absolute counters or mirrors who drew better, can confirm there are no other warriors down here and it eats up the majority of the low rank playerbase.
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May 15, 2020 17:14
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I cruised into legend this month with Highlander Priest, facing almost nothing but Warriors, DHs, and other Priests within the D5-D1 range. Even Rogue seems to be disappearing, at least from my limited perspective. My final boss was a standard Galakrond Priest, and we went deep into fatigue before my highlander cards ended up being the deciding edge. It felt fitting afterward to craft a golden Galakrond, the Unspeakable to commemorate my fallen yet worthy opponent.
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May 15, 2020 18:14
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https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23426180 Balance patch - paladin 1 drop :O
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May 15, 2020 18:18
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Those nerfs are all fine, though will have minimal impact overall. I love the buffs out of nowhere, like the aldor attendant change is gonna fix paladin.
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May 15, 2020 18:28
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Holy moly those are some big and significant changes. at the third DH nerf.
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adamarama posted:Those nerfs are all fine, though will have minimal impact overall. I love the buffs out of nowhere, like the aldor attendant change is gonna fix paladin. I don't know if it will fix paladin but it will certainly help. It is especially good for wild with crystology. While I appreciate the Lurker buff I don't think that's a card that needed it since it is pretty good at what it does.
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May 15, 2020 18:32
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Wow surprised at so many different classes getting a change.
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Warrior got off easy, what the hell. RIP blackjack stunner completely removing Alex and the other 9 cost minions from the game. 1 mana aldor attendant is really going to help paladin with it's problem of. . . miserable draw. Playing that card on t2 was fine. You just then never draw your librams. Did they forget crystology isn't in standard?
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Chernabog posted:I don't know if it will fix paladin but it will certainly help. It is especially good for wild with crystology. Wild Paladin is basically just different flavors of aggro at this point. I legit can’t remember the last time I saw any control decks from them, so I’m dubious about this alone making it viable for them again.
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My turn 5 Priestess of Fury concessions noo. Guess i can craft Bloodsworn mercenary now, but still an Ancharr off that deck. Prob will still be good after the patch, the nerfs seem minimal.
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May 15, 2020 18:49
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uh oh, Warrior was not nerfed enough.
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AnacondaHL posted:uh oh, Warrior was not nerfed enough. Notice how Brute’s new 5/8 stats slot perfectly against Priestess’ 6/5 too.
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May 15, 2020 19:20
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I'm glad they seem to have gotten over their hangup when it comes to buffing cards, though it won't be enough to save Shaman, and it won't really do anything for Paladin.
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May 15, 2020 19:24
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Regalingualius posted:Wild Paladin is basically just different flavors of aggro at this point. I legit can’t remember the last time I saw any control decks from them, so I’m dubious about this alone making it viable for them again. I only play wild for fun so I don't care if it's not viable. In wild I'm already playing libram paladin most of the time so this change will only improve the deck.
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Fenarisk posted:I had to switch to warrior in silver/gold because I lost 13 straight games as face hunter queued into absolute counters or mirrors who drew better, can confirm there are no other warriors down here and it eats up the majority of the low rank playerbase. What warrior deck are you using down here? I keep getting within spitting distance of gold with the free rogue deck but can never quite crack it. I am also incredibly bad though.
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Quetzadilla posted:What warrior deck are you using down here? I keep getting within spitting distance of gold with the free rogue deck but can never quite crack it. I am also incredibly bad though. The free Rogue deck is very close to being a Tier 1 deck. Players have been toying with a "Vanilla Ice" build in tournaments, to have better game vs DH and Hunter while still going long vs Priest (banning Warrior), which matches with the Gold ranks metagame: If you don't have Flik just add another SI or some Khartut Defenders, otherwise it is very budget-friendly. Here's the list I consider for tournaments and have played in Legend Ladder ### CQ Vanilla Gala # Class: Rogue # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (0) Backstab # 2x (0) Shadowstep # 2x (1) Pharaoh Cat # 2x (1) Praise Galakrond! # 2x (1) Spymistress # 2x (2) Eviscerate # 1x (3) Edwin VanCleef # 2x (3) EVIL Miscreant # 2x (3) Frozen Shadoweaver # 2x (3) Seal Fate # 1x (3) SI:7 Agent # 2x (4) Devoted Maniac # 2x (5) Faceless Corruptor # 2x (5) Shield of Galakrond # 1x (6) Flik Skyshiv # 1x (6) Heistbaron Togwaggle # 1x (6) Kronx Dragonhoof # 1x (7) Galakrond, the Nightmare # AAECAaIHBrIC3QiSlwPBrgPjtAPLwAMMtAHtAogHj5cD9acDua4D/q4Dqq8Dzq8DgrEDubgD1r4DAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone # Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net Note that Rogue is probably the 2nd hardest deck to play right now, but it's powerful enough to not be as punishing when misplayed
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