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Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Wicked Them Beats posted:

Klob has the edge by virtue of where she's from and being white. No doubt in my mind that the people making this decision are fine checking one minority box but think that checking two or more is a bridge too far, which relegates Harris to the "break in case of emergency with black voters" box, and I don't think they're as panicked as they should be over minority turnout.

Why should they be? South Carolina proves that biden has the monolithic black voter bloc on lock!

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Martian
May 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1261004586359422979?s=19

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

How are u posted:

Donald Trump is 74 years old and if he were physically capable of running a Presidential Campaign at 78+ he certainly wouldn't have the brain for it. I'm confident he'll be dead before 80.


e: I also think it's probably a coin flip on whether Biden lives through his term. I dearly hope he picks somebody good as VP.

Assuming he loses this year, and in 4 years he's still able to string enough words together to form a sentence, he will absolutely run again.
His ego will demand it, because only loser presidents don't serve the maximum two terms. It'll be bad enough in his mind that he lost re-election, but he definitely isn't going to let himself be a one term president if he has enough faculties to try to do anything about it.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

Controversial, but I think I agree.

Iron Twinkie
Apr 20, 2001

BOOP

VitalSigns posted:

I hope it's Harris and she gets asked about bussing

That's kind of why I'm betting he won't pick Harris. She's one of the few people that actually dared challenged his record which makes her a complete non-starter. That and he's already promised a black judge on the Supreme Court so his campaign has determined they already "did enough" for black people.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004


Cant, I got purged from the rolls. OH WELL :shrug:

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Uncle Wemus posted:

Cant, I got purged from the rolls. OH WELL :shrug:

If they take away your right to vote, vote!

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007


I did, and you failed.

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

Wicked Them Beats posted:

Klob has the edge by virtue of where she's from and being white. No doubt in my mind that the people making this decision are fine checking one minority box but think that checking two or more is a bridge too far, which relegates Harris to the "break in case of emergency with black voters" box, and I don't think they're as panicked as they should be over minority turnout.

imo harris is more likely. even if biden has the minority vote locked down, being the first woman as president and being a minority would probably help her get re-elected in 2024. biden will step down in 2022, then they can try to keep kamala in office for ten years

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

how the hell did this jackass earn the moniker "community organizer"

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
"help us obama, we're being crushed to death by the american socio-economic system"

"uhh let me be clear: VOTE"

"BUT WE CANT BECAUSE WE'RE BEING CRUSHED TO DEATH"

"uhhhhhh clearly i tried to do too much too fast"

3rdEyeDeuteranopia
Sep 12, 2007

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1261016625727356934

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007


Bernie's campaign strategy was a shocking success, given the circumstances.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
What happened now? I ask because you guys have clearly lost your minds...talking about aliens and poo poo now.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Waltzing Along posted:

What happened now? I ask because you guys have clearly lost your minds...talking about aliens and poo poo now.

What if:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DW_bzU__Qw

I blame it on the quarantine.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Raskolnikov38 posted:

"help us obama, we're being crushed to death by the american socio-economic system"

"uhh let me be clear: VOTE"

"BUT WE CANT BECAUSE WE'RE BEING CRUSHED TO DEATH"

"uhhhhhh clearly i tried to do too much too fast"

*zooms away on water skis*

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012


no

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Bernie had every billionaire in the country fighting him along with the entire party establishment and the corporate media and he still almost won

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
And he would have won if there was no electronic voting.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Oh of loving course. He spends time in the states she didn't bother to and wins, she loses the narrative cover of Trump Chuds and Sanders voters not showing up costing her the election. To go down in history as being so badly hated that it allowed Trump a fluke one term presidency would probably give her a massive stroke.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Scooter_McCabe posted:

Oh of loving course. He spends time in the states she didn't bother to and wins, she loses the narrative cover of Trump Chuds and Sanders voters not showing up costing her the election. To go down in history as being so badly hated that it allowed Trump a fluke one term presidency would probably give her a massive stroke.

You aren't thinking next level.

Trump will win.
RBG will die.
Roe will go away.
HRC will be to blame.

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

Raskolnikov38 posted:

how the hell did this jackass earn the moniker "community organizer"

i wish i could remember the speech, but not too long ago he was all “put down your phones and video games, lace up your shoelaces, and start knocking on doors” and then in 2020 when people do that for sanders he’s like “well fuckers time to veto your votes.” what a dirtbag

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


Waltzing Along posted:

You aren't thinking next level.

Trump will win.
RBG will die.
Roe will go away.
HRC will be to blame.

It does ultimately come down to the damage that the clintons and their creatures did to the party, yes. This disaster, and the horror to come can be traced back to them.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Waltzing Along posted:

You aren't thinking next level.

Trump will win.
RBG will die.
Roe will go away.
HRC will be to blame.

Okay she get's stuck with that legacy her head will explode like a boss you defeat in Super R Type with poo poo flying everywhere.(If that game is to esoteric, think Contra but in space)

Eminai
Apr 29, 2013

I agree with Dante, that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality.

Scooter_McCabe posted:

Oh of loving course. He spends time in the states she didn't bother to and wins, she loses the narrative cover of Trump Chuds and Sanders voters not showing up costing her the election. To go down in history as being so badly hated that it allowed Trump a fluke one term presidency would probably give her a massive stroke.

That tweet is neither literal nor serious. Worst Nate is mocking the idea of taking the advice from Sanders supporters.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

The Brilliance of Joe Biden!

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1261021660318179328?s=20

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord

Waltzing Along posted:

What happened now? I ask because you guys have clearly lost your minds...talking about aliens and poo poo now.

You should watch the first 10-ish seasons of the simpsons, they're real good and a major cultural icon for gen x and even millennials.

rko
Jul 12, 2017

He’s not the loving Vice President.

Why has this dumb title-retention thing entered common usage? From a PR perspective it makes sense—what else does Biden even have, a long senatorial record that his campaign is desperate to keep under wraps?—but I don’t see why the media and everybody else has gone along with it. Dumb.

Also he sounds incredibly bad but I guess nothing matters anymore. No masks, no morals, all monsters.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

rko posted:

He’s not the loving Vice President.

Why has this dumb title-retention thing entered common usage? From a PR perspective it makes sense—what else does Biden even have, a long senatorial record that his campaign is desperate to keep under wraps?—but I don’t see why the media and everybody else has gone along with it. Dumb.

Also he sounds incredibly bad but I guess nothing matters anymore. No masks, no morals, all monsters.

This is a really weird thing to get angry about. Title retention has been A Thing forever. It's just how things are done. There's nothing more to it.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007


Only 6 months of this poo poo left. Jesus loving Christ.

The only thing that would suppress voter turnout more than Joe hiding, is Joe not hiding.

Carew
Jun 22, 2006

https://twitter.com/BetaODork/status/1171213134251659267?s=20

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Scooter_McCabe posted:

Oh of loving course. He spends time in the states she didn't bother to and wins, she loses the narrative cover of Trump Chuds and Sanders voters not showing up costing her the election. To go down in history as being so badly hated that it allowed Trump a fluke one term presidency would probably give her a massive stroke.

Please, please, please bother to read the whole tweet before commenting on it. It's only one tweet and you still didn't bother to read the whole thing! If you had, you would've seen that Silver is obviously joking about the dynamics of a campaign loser giving campaign advice. He's not reporting something that actually happened.

rko
Jul 12, 2017

How are u posted:

This is a really weird thing to get angry about. Title retention has been A Thing forever. It's just how things are done. There's nothing more to it.

Incorrect. I’m on mobile so don’t feel like digging out the links, but the sources in this Wikipedia article note that the practice was previously that offices held by only one person at a time aren’t retained, and that alternative forms of address were preferred. And indeed, the style guides at the NYT, WaPo, the New Yorker, and other fancy institutions of snooty writing agree.

This is a relatively new practice, and while it may be weird to get angry about, I think it contributes to treating politicians like aristocrats, forever marked as part of the ruling class in a country where not having nobility was a founding principle. It’s a subtle bit of messaging that imparts authority—but given how people react to the presence of a little blue checkmark, I don’t think it’s too subtle to matter.

E: That said it is not cool that I’m mad about this, that much is very true, but I promise I’m already totally full of shame about this and many other things, so don’t worry.

rko fucked around with this message at 23:37 on May 14, 2020

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
it’s credentialism turned up all the way to 11

it’s for and by people who are genuinely impressed with the smell of their own farts

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Rainbow Knight posted:

biden will step down in 2022, then they can try to keep kamala in office for ten years

What

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002


That Bush era "how much is a Brazilian?" joke except it's real.

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011






under the terms of the 25th Amendment, a VP can theoretically be in power for 10 years if the President dies or resigns over two years into their term

of course, nobody would elect someone like Kamala Harris into office for two full terms after they'd already been president for two years, but still

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Venomous posted:

under the terms of the 25th Amendment, a VP can theoretically be in power for 10 years if the President dies or resigns over two years into their term

of course, nobody would elect someone like Kamala Harris into office for two more terms, but still

My dude, have you seen the chucklefucks we've reelected?

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





Cpt_Obvious posted:

My dude, have you seen the chucklefucks we've reelected?

I mean, considering the opposition to President Harris would be Josh Hawley, Tom Cotton, Matt Gaetz, or some other GOP fascist (maybe President Q lmao), I sincerely doubt she'd win reelection

Of course, neither Harris nor Klob will be VP anyway, because Biden is going to lose in November

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Venomous posted:

under the terms of the 25th Amendment, a VP can theoretically be in power for 10 years if the President dies or resigns over two years into their term

of course, nobody would elect someone like Kamala Harris into office for two full terms after they'd already been president for two years, but still

I was expressing shock at the notion that President Biden would willingly step down halfway through his term, or really at all.

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