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also I want to think that someone realized that 80% of the tourist revenue has been being siphoned off to huge off-island hotel megacorps and doesn’t actually help any locals at all. as far as I can tell we actually make most of our money from the military and foreign investment anyway. shovelbum posted:Hawaii seems nice to live in, cheaper than the tech bro hell cities that make up most of the other West Coast options these days I guess. Haven't been out there in six years or so now though is it full SF tier prices it is much cheaper than SF. there is currently a massive push to make us into “silicon island” and some large Asian tech companies were in deals to relocate large parts of their operations here. my company actually recruits from traditional tech places by touting the island lifestyle along with a surprisingly cheaper cost of living over places like SF.
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Starks posted:I mean I’m speculating here but their economy is tourism. locals going to restaurants isn’t gonna be enough to save it, their best bet is probably gonna be getting healthy as soon as possible so they can get Asian tourists back rather than stretch it out. in the meantime, credit. this is also a big thing. SK and Japan and China were combined already a bigger tourist market than the mainland. if we don’t have the virus and neither do they, then travel to Hawaii becomes incredibly attractive.
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Mourne posted:I had to go to a Walmart today, a poor decision. welcome to the forums president obama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yiQXPOO1Yo
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as a Canadian if we get this under control before the U.S. mainland does I would def take advantage of a cheap flight to Hawaii. we prefer to go to places where American tourists aren’t which is part of why Cuba is so popular.
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I wanna get back out there, I cadet shipped with Matson and really miss it vs the fuckin North Atlantic
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Starks posted:as a Canadian if we get this under control before the U.S. mainland does I would def take advantage of a cheap flight to Hawaii. we prefer to go to places where American tourists aren’t which is part of why Cuba is so popular. you are very welcome to come here as long as you wear a mask and don’t have the deadly plague, either of which would exclude like 80% of the mainland.
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shovelbum posted:I know they get a lot of tourists from countries that can at least hope to avoid rampant endemic covid, too. Vietnam hasn't had a single covid death. There are more nations than just NZ and Australia which have managed to keep a lid on this but the question is how many tourists are going to be willing and financially able to deal with the inevitable quarantine requirements which will accompany countries opening up to tourists.
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I shop for my grandparents weekly at their Walmart, and this is absolutely true.
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Lolie posted:Vietnam hasn't had a single covid death. There are more nations than just NZ and Australia which have managed to keep a lid on this but the question is how many tourists are going to be willing and financially able to deal with the inevitable quarantine requirements which will accompany countries opening up to tourists. Fighting covid isn't exactly hard or complicated we're just insanely botching it, see sloppy European responses that got results eventually.
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May 15, 2020 06:34
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Stereotype posted:you are very welcome to come here as long as you wear a mask and don’t have the deadly plague, either of which would exclude like 80% of the mainland. keeping an internal lock down going beyond elimination is entirely pointless and actively harmful to, say, people who need elective procedurds (chemo, for one). no need to let in plague ships but forcing a no productive lock down will result in non covid deaths.
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shovelbum posted:we're just insanely botching it
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Zberan Madowinty posted:Like lol that owns is the villages dead yet??
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Malcolm XML posted:keeping an internal lock down going beyond elimination is entirely pointless and actively harmful to, say, people who need elective procedurds (chemo, for one). shut up dude
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May 15, 2020 06:42
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Stereotype posted:lol Honolulu, which has had single digit new cases for several weeks and zero new cases today, has extended their stay-at-home orders to June 30th. https://youtu.be/EqChkRQNZBA
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May 15, 2020 06:52
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May 15, 2020 06:55
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Lmao my friend in Wisconsin is all mad that his county still ordered a lockdown so he only got to the bar for like 2 hours yesterday and that it's just the flu and not worth a lockdown. Just a completely different reality
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May 15, 2020 06:56
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Stereotype posted:shut up dude lol take it up with new Zealand, currently leading the world with an effective response strategy
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Stereotype posted:he does The Cab commercials too. everyone likes him. 422 2222 I don't watch much TV so I didn't know he was still making commercials until this afternoon.
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May 15, 2020 06:59
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Bulgakov posted:time to spend trump bux on some deeply discounted flight, pack my bags with whatever i can, then go live in the forests on kauai and subsist on wild chickens between trips to da beach this can't be a real option because lol if you can do this and aren't already
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May 15, 2020 07:00
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evidently stone cold was an accurate nickname
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May 15, 2020 07:02
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Hodgepodge posted:this can't be a real option because lol if you can do this and aren't already There is already a plague of broke white people in Hawaii, please do not contribute to the problem
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May 15, 2020 07:05
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Bulgakov posted:time to spend trump bux on some deeply discounted flight, pack my bags with whatever i can, then go live in the forests on kauai and subsist on wild chickens between trips to da beach There are feral cows you can hunt, too.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:There is already a plague of broke white people in America, please do not contribute to the problem  people should just not be broke imo
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oxsnard posted:I mean that's good for public health and really excellent but what do they do about the economy? Surely UI is gonna chew a massive hole in the state budget. I'm not concern trolling I just mean practically what do they do? money printer go brrrr
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May 15, 2020 07:10
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got any sevens posted:money printer go brrrr not for states unless your florida lol
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May 15, 2020 07:13
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:There is already a plague of broke white people in Hawaii, please do not contribute to the problem i suppose it would be unethical to hunt them 
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Hodgepodge posted:this can't be a real option because lol if you can do this and aren't already Goons have precedence already with doing this.
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May 15, 2020 07:17
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i like how people are still arguing it's "just the flu" when it's killed a lot more people than the flu does in a year, over the course of like 9 weeks
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An Ex-Google Employee Turned 'Whistleblower' and QAnon Fan Made 'Plandemic' Go Viral [VICE]
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Xaris posted:not for states Yeah that's what I was getting at. If I was a state though I would probably make the assumption that the feds won't let you bankrupt so you may as well deficit spend as much as you can, though I think most states have constitutional requirements about funding and liquidity
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oxsnard posted:Yeah that's what I was getting at. lmao if you think Trrrrrp won't let a state go under if they're not licking his boots.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:Lmao my friend in Wisconsin is all mad that his county still ordered a lockdown so he only got to the bar for like 2 hours yesterday and that it's just the flu and not worth a lockdown. Just a completely different reality The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' [...] 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'. The cool thing about the roni is that smug assholes like that guy are gonna see nature take a big poo poo on their worldview within their lifetimes, whereas they would have died before climate change really kicked in and proved them wrong too
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I just ate a rotten piece of an apple and I can't stop checking posts for long enough to clean the taste out of my mouth
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May 15, 2020 07:23
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0.24% of NYC died of covid going by confirmed + probable deaths on their site. Will cross the 1/400 mark before their curve dies out.
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Zeno-25 posted:The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' [...] 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'. "my delusions are important to me and you will suffer the consequences"
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by the time I read this post the tweet was dead, what did it say?
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There were 27,368 cases today, which means depending on the data are using, is about the same or slightly higher than a week ago and far higher than the previous 4 days.
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Hodgepodge posted:i suppose it would be unethical to hunt them gonna hunt down dog the bounty hunter
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