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Nineball posted:To my credit I didn't mean to get the edit, I'm just slow to the draw Honestly, not quite sure what you mean here
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GalacticAcid posted:I will 100% not be watching it, I’m sure it’s garbage. But Netflix stuff has a way of totally dominating temporary Content Zeitgeists so I’d be curious to read about which historiography it’s pushing if a good analysis like that comes along i'll watch it and let u know but its wildly ahistorical
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Pomeroy posted:Now there, we agree, Losurdo is solid. Liberalism; a Counter History, has been impressing me. Read his Stalin book next!
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Plutonis posted:Something that doesn't get much traction on western media about Chinese ethnic relations is that there's an undercurrent of Han resentment over perceived favoritism by the CCP over minorities due to affirmative action taken on national exams for the universities and public jobs as well as lower tax burdens and other "entitlements", including even not being subject to the One Child Policy. This is slightly surprising because that could be an angle that would work to get conservatives even more riled up at the Chinese government: "They're reverse racist just like our crazy liberal government!"
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Continuity RCP posted:https://thecharnelhouse.org/2017/05/15/dont-bother-reading-settlers-by-j-sakai
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GalacticAcid posted:I will 100% not be watching it, I’m sure it’s garbage. But Netflix stuff has a way of totally dominating temporary Content Zeitgeists so I’d be curious to read about which historiography it’s pushing if a good analysis like that comes along The opening train sex scene is bonkers.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:that blog post from the leftcom guy is really a "stay for the comments" kind of piece My favourite is the guy calling the guy who doesn't claim to be maoist "not a maoist"
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it's really got everything. also the phrase "blood-gargling trot imbecile," and that's when you know you've got to crack your knuckles and settle in for a slapfight or more like a great pie fight where everybody including the cooks join in. maoists. trots shouting defend the red fortress and throwing knives at pictures of stalin. there's even a neo-nazi who was mentioned in the post who shows up to try and defend himself by saying yes he really DOES hate jews for racial reasons. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 13:58 on May 14, 2020 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:it's really got everything. also the phrase "blood-gargling trot imbecile," and that's when you know you've got to crack your knuckles and settle in for a slapfight  this is how you know my political awakening was pretty drat recent, because I've not been enmeshed in the years of weird online leftist slapfights and I don't plan to be. I didn't even realize the settler's site was a (former) goon project.
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Continuity RCP posted:https://thecharnelhouse.org/2017/05/15/dont-bother-reading-settlers-by-j-sakai the rhizzone had a lot of fun with that nerd
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you really dont have to take part to enjoy the absurdity of argumentation. i cant avoid finding that poo poo as anything but another sympthom of hyperreality forcing absurd conclusions from obsolete ideological terminology
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You don't have to know anything or take a side to enjoy lefty battle royale
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Continuity RCP posted:You don't have to know anything or take a side to enjoy lefty battle royale Who's the Ninja of leftist microsect slap fights?
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MizPiz posted:Who's the Ninja of leftist microsect slap fights? I'm going for the other reference
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see and this is why reading and having read books is bad
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THS posted:see and this is why reading and having read books is bad compelling point tbh
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I'm raising my children to be unable to read. However, they will learn the works of Marx and Lenin as part of an oral tradition.
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understanding the dialectic purely as an intuitive, illiterate phenomena would be incredibly powerful. a generation of shamanic marxists
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speaking of reading and oral traditions. back when i was drunk on labour day i talked about zapatistas here and someone asked me about where to read more about them and my own knowledge comes from various sources and researching stuff for conversations with other like-minded peeps in the past. so I would have a hard time to give you a good and unbiased reading list. Anyway, trying to find a good book to recommend that would be a good look into it (that I could read myself and have a more thorough understanding, too!) I found a book "Luchas 'muy otras'" recommended. It appears to be only in Spanish, but that's fine for me, as I need something to read to brush up my own spanish. At the same time, in a very apt way when talking about egalitarian anarchism, it's actually a collaborative tome by researchers and people entrenched in that culture, both in the past and in the present. And thanks to being in the native language of these people, it helps incorporate an element of unity that they share - an indigenous Mesoamerican component that often eludes more 'detached' analysis. Anyway, once I finish my current backlog of spanish-language stuff I'd get to it at some point, and probably it would be a good exercise to sharpen my spanish to create some summaries and share them. Would people here be interested in a Let's Read thread like that when I do?
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All I know about Zapatistas is their coffee is good
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Continuity RCP posted:All I know about Zapatistas is their coffee is good if I drank coffee I'd definitely spring for some
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dex_sda posted:if I drank coffee I'd definitely spring for some You could buy me some.
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dex_sda posted:Anyway, once I finish my current backlog of spanish-language stuff I'd get to it at some point, and probably it would be a good exercise to sharpen my spanish to create some summaries and share them. Would people here be interested in a Let's Read thread like that when I do?
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dex_sda posted:Anyway, once I finish my current backlog of spanish-language stuff I'd get to it at some point, and probably it would be a good exercise to sharpen my spanish to create some summaries and share them. Would people here be interested in a Let's Read thread like that when I do? Yes, I also think posting them in here would work too
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GalacticAcid posted:Yes, I also think posting them in here would work too I thought about it, there's certainly potential for very interesting discussion here, just don't want to threadshit too much in the thread that's probably got the best ortho marxism discussions. we'll see how it goes when I get to it (which won't be for a few weeks at least)
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Lumpy posted:You could buy me some. where is it sold?
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Doc Hawkins posted:where is it sold? in europe it's sold by local shops that support the zapatistas and organise locally for the (nominal) extra fees from what I can see. dunno about the US
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that said if someone figures out a way to get it via like a gift card so it's not very complicated and/or personal data problematic I can spring for some coffee for a goon, why not 
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Would very much like to wake up one morning soon, check the news, and discover that Elon Musk is no longer with us
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do the Zapatistas sell/ship anything besides coffee? do they have a way for me to buy it from my internet-enabled telephone.
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GalacticAcid posted:Would very much like to wake up one morning soon, check the news, and discover that Elon Musk is no longer with us he will be on mars soon enough
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Top City Homo posted:he will be on mars soon enough spread across several square miles of the surface, with any luck
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indigi posted:spread across several square miles of the surface, with any luck that was the implication
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great, promethean musk terraforms mars and guides an entire planet’s evolution
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indigi posted:do the Zapatistas sell/ship anything besides coffee? do they have a way for me to buy it from my internet-enabled telephone. Öl für das Getriebe der Bewegung:  (fair trade native olive) Oil for the gears of the movement.  e: the oil is from Cretan co-ops, not mexico.
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Centrist Committee posted:great, promethean musk terraforms mars and guides an entire planet’s evolution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDaOgu2CQtI
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