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I will say that I remain almost 100% ignorant of Gamergate but whenever this Brianna Wu person shows up and does something absolutely stupid, I would post something like “Congressional Candidate Brianna Wu is very dumb and doesn’t appear to be good for the job” and I got positively clusterbombed by Goons accusing me of being a gamergater and a misogynist and literally do not understand why.
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AnEdgelord posted:The actual proof that video games can be something other than "fun" but still be good is Pathologic (2) which has more to say and says it in a more interesting way than Gone Home or Depression Quest could ever hope to for me, this game is Getting Over It with Bennett Foddy
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May 16, 2020 15:08
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scary ghost dog posted:1) games are art If you're trying to say that definitely and not just sharing your own personal experience with the game the critical response to Gone Home does not seem to bear you out. A lot of critics seem to find it both a powerful experience and an original work. Maybe as it ages it is going to get overshadowed by the games it inspired, but there is no guarantee it will lose its relevance either. Personally, I don't find it to qualitatively different than Firewatch and Edith Finch, but I'm not a big fan of the genre either. I disagree with you that Obra Dinn is in the same genre; I did find it to be an amazing game though.
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selec posted:Gone Home was alright. There’s room for all kinds of art in the world. It’s not that serious. Gone Home to me felt like an extension of the Duclare Chateau stage in Deus Ex, and it would fit well what some of the original TTLG team being behind Gone Home. And if you were to make a game entirely on the idea of old MyHouse.map files from Duke Nukem 3d and Doom custom maps, it's honestly a good try and I didn't regret what I paid for and the saturday afternoon I spent on it. However as SGD said: There's better titles being done with the concept. It probably shouldn't have been the target of super weird hate diatribes about it.
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Game critics are the worst media critics. TV critics are pretty loving bad but they don't hold a candle to game critics.
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Game critics are gamers. Gamers are Bad. Ergo, game critics are Bad.
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I was only half listening but I thought they were talking about how heavy rain was bad not gone home And heavy rain is atrociously bad
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thotsky posted:If you're trying to say that definitely and not just sharing your own personal experience with the game the critical response to Gone Home does not seem to bear you out. A lot of critics seem to find it both a powerful experience and an original work. Maybe as it ages it is going to get overshadowed by the games it inspired, but there is no guarantee it will lose its relevance either. Personally, I don't find it to qualitatively different than Firewatch and Edith Finch, but I'm not a big fan of the genre either. I disagree with you that Obra Dinn is in the same genre; I did find it to be an amazing game though. it has aged and been overshadowed by the games it inspired. its like the NES metroid now, or reservoir dogs
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Wolfsheim posted:I was only half listening but I thought they were talking about how heavy rain was bad not gone home They were talking about specific type of indie game and Matt mentions a game where you read mail which is Gone Home. Heavy Rain might be the worst written game ever. It straight up cheats in order to have a twist (which also makes no sensE) lmao
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This has been productive because it reminded me to add Obra Dinn and Getting Over it to my list, thanks everyone.
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ive been trying to read this thread and keep up with it, but it's just incomprehensible. none of any of these posts seem to enjoy interacting with any of the other posts or posters lol this shits crazy, beware the goon takes
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May 16, 2020 15:43
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really this episode just showed that anyone who likes counter-strike has poo poo taste in videogames.
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May 16, 2020 16:02
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ItohRespectArmy posted:really this episode just showed that anyone who likes counter-strike has poo poo taste in videogames. CS was fine but there were at least a dozen better HL mods including a wonky Revolutionary War one that owned.
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May 16, 2020 16:03
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I'm only partway through the Masterclass episode and the "guided meditation on capitalism" is one of the most insane things I've ever heard. Imagine a golden ball of healing light encircling your competitors and crushing them to a pulp. Imagine them pounding on the walls begging for mercy. Now pour this into a Juicero
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May 16, 2020 16:10
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Gone Home is okay on its own but it sucks that it gets to be the big example of pushing the envelope of artistry just because some people from the industry specifically went indie to do art, when interactive fiction, visual novels, etc. have histories spanning decades with some serious masterworks as well as thousands of things on the simple personal short story level of Gone Home.
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm only partway through the Masterclass episode and the "guided meditation on capitalism" is one of the most insane things I've ever heard. As your market share approaches 100%, you look down to find someone sucking your dick. It's Ludwig von Mises himself, and he's giving you a thumbs up with his free hand.
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May 16, 2020 16:28
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Groovelord Neato posted:They were talking about specific type of indie game and Matt mentions a game where you read mail which is Gone Home. There are lots of games where you read mail Arguably Gone Home spawned an entire genre of games where you slowly walk around listening to voicemails and reading mail
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May 16, 2020 17:01
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It was by far the most well known one and thus almost certainly what Matt was referencing.
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May 16, 2020 17:02
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F.E.A.R. was the true gold standard of “walking around an office listening to other people’s voicemail about their work/family problems”
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The Unnamed One posted:F.E.A.R. was the true gold standard of “walking around an office listening to other people’s voicemail about their work/family problems” it was, until Control
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May 16, 2020 17:07
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i thought depression quest was a fake game title someone came up with as a joke to make fun of actually existing games in its genre
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May 16, 2020 17:12
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“games should/shouldn’t be fun;” a classic chad/virgin dichotomy.
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ItohRespectArmy posted:really this episode just showed that anyone who likes counter-strike has poo poo taste in videogames. 2k hours in cs and I thought gone home and depression quest were interesting little experiences which baffled me when people got Very Mad about them
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Groovelord Neato posted:Game critics are the worst media critics. TV critics are pretty loving bad but they don't hold a candle to game critics. not until kieron gillen starts reviewing tv anyway
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Famethrowa posted:2k hours in cs and I thought gone home and depression quest were interesting little experiences which baffled me when people got Very Mad about them i dont give a poo poo about gone home or depression quest im talking about battlefield 3 being the best game that came out in a year notorious for great games.
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ItohRespectArmy posted:i dont give a poo poo about gone home or depression quest im talking about battlefield 3 being the best game that came out in a year notorious for great games. im sorry for not respecting little big planet 2 enough
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May 16, 2020 17:43
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Famethrowa posted:im sorry for not respecting little big planet 2 enough thats right motherfucker, that poo poo is art.
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Felix has the worst taste in games of anyone I've ever heard who describes themselves as a gamer. He's also god awful at games, and couldn't beat the first boss in a series that he claims to love and won't stop bringing up. Conversely, Matt who hates games has extremely funny and good takes on them, and describing Gone Home as basically mail theft is extremely funny. He was also the best voice actor of the group in Disco Elysium Edit: for the record, Virgil saying that Mao Zedong would play Zarya in Overwatch is my favorite gamer take
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An episode of E1 about being as mad about those years in the mid-90s when every video game magazine cover was a fighting game as gamers were about text adventures and environmental storytelling having a brief indie resurgence two presidential elections ago.
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did the biederman sibs comment that two of the characters on a relationship on council of dad's are named Lily and Evan, after harry potters parents
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does Gone Home have a bit where a spooky voice pipes up and tells you that someone has been dissected and placed in cryogenic storage?
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Sleeveless posted:An episode of E1 about being as mad about those years in the mid-90s when every video game magazine cover was a fighting game as gamers were about text adventures and environmental storytelling having a brief indie resurgence two presidential elections ago. The best environmental storytelling isn't in an indie game though.
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Groovelord Neato posted:The best environmental storytelling isn't in an indie game though. yeah it’s the Oberammergau Passion Play
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my video game opinion is that roger ebert was right about games not being art and trying to do good story-telling actively robs a game of what it's purpose (enjoyable mechanics) is
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Wow so the way to get goons to actually talk about the podcast was for felix to mention video games. Did anyone say Chenmo yet?
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miniscule12 posted:Did anyone say Chenmo yet?
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Shipon posted:my video game opinion is that roger ebert was right about games not being art and trying to do good story-telling actively robs a game of what it's purpose (enjoyable mechanics) is People who get really worked up because of what Roger Ebert said make me insanely happy. I'm so glad they are incoherently angry. 
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Shipon posted:my video game opinion is that roger ebert was right about games not being art and trying to do good story-telling actively robs a game of what it's purpose (enjoyable mechanics) is the only game ebert ever played was teenage mutant ninja turtles for the nes
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Shipon posted:my video game opinion is that roger ebert was right about games not being art and trying to do good story-telling actively robs a game of what it's purpose (enjoyable mechanics) is Good thing Kojima makes interactive movies.
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