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The Sunday Times rich list is out today. Haven't read it, but I've seen the top 10. Along with some prime bootlicking from its compiler:quote:You may not like the super-rich, but it is hard to deny that our economy will need the jobs they create and the taxes they and their companies pay if we are to escape a prolonged recession that causes further misery to millions. Let's have a look at that top 10 and see if any of these "job creators" actually created any jobs to speak of in the UK lately, shall we? 1: James Dyson. Moving his company HQ abroad. Job creator? Depends if he's expanded his UK manufacturing base recently - which I couldn't find any evidence of. 2: The Hindujas. Businesses primarily based in India. Job creators? No. 3: The Reuben brothers. Fortune mostly from property (so they're landlords) and stock/bond dividends. Job creators? No. 4: Leonard Blavatnik. Main business based in New York. Fingers in many pies, including music industry. Job creator? Not really. 5: Jim Ratcliffe. Chemicals magnate. Supports fracking. Job creator? Has businesses in UK, so yes. 6: Kirsten Rausing. Owns Tetra Pak (which is based in Switzerland). Job creator? Depends if Tetra Paks are made in the UK. 7: Alisher Usmanov. Literal oligarch. Businesses based in Russia. Job creator? No. 8: The Westons. Investment company owns Primark, amongst others. Job creators? Indirectly. 9: Charlene Carvalho-Heineken. You can probably guess her business from her surname. Business based in Holland. Job creator? Depends if she owns breweries in the UK. 10: The Duke of Westminster. Landlord, who inherited his fortune with the aid of shenanigans to minimise - hell, almost negate - inheritance tax. Job creator? Absolutely not.
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May 17, 2020 08:58
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Guavanaut posted:It's probably because everyone associates microwaves with magnetrons for the obvious reason. This stuff is fascinating to me because my RF knowledge starts falling apart once you get past the spark gap apparatus (and even then the receivers for that make me start wanting to build a wicker man).
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ronya posted:speaking of revelling in a long-dead past... I know, I actually wanted to expand that out to explain the irony, but couldn't phrase it right. IMO if we're stuck with running our society on pointless nostalgia, let's at least pick a time period with a bit of optimism and progress rather than a loving war.
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The whole thing's a little suspicious to be honest - they did catch and put the Angry Brigade on trial for their other bombings and even though at least one member had been loudly boasting about the bomb they didn't even attempt to throw that in, and like you say they didn't even attempt to just grab some randos off the streets of Highbury to fit them up. Part of me wonders if the fit-ups of rhe Guildford for et. al. was a reaction to that failure.
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Another excellent effortpost from twisto, a feat both entirely expected and highly engaging.
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Payndz posted:9: Charlene Carvalho-Heineken. You can probably guess her business from her surname. Business based in Holland. Job creator? Depends if she owns breweries in the UK. just as a point of interest, any Heineken you buy in the UK was probably brewed in Manchester. Check the bottle label. the company also owns a few other breweries through takeovers. like everything that used to be part of Scottish & Newcastle or Caledonian
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I know, I actually wanted to expand that out to explain the irony, but couldn't phrase it right. IMO if we're stuck with running our society on pointless nostalgia, let's at least pick a time period with a bit of optimism and progress rather than a loving war. (it's also, I think, false as an empirical social-attitudes-surveyesque claim - we see another peak later across the 1980s and 1990s, eventually forming the Cool Britannia period. This peak then dies with the GFC) It's hard to present the white-heat-of-technology outlook fairly, I think, because our attitude today as to what constitutes technology-for-the-masses is so different from the Labour ethic of the 1960s. Infrastructure, not white goods - in a definite 'infrastructure' in the square-footage-of-poured-concrete sense, not a nebulous human-capital post-Education-education-education sense. The old Labour left believed in the socialist commanding heights that would lead to technical progress through a cohesive indicative strategy. The great dread here was that that Britain was losing out to the... Soviets, who had long since caught up and were now clearly steaming ahead with their superior economic way of life. Richard Crossman on the old left used to argue very strongly for that thesis.
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Someone on my facebook posted this and I thought of this thread.
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The soviets certainly seem ahead with their state operating housing and centrally managed breadlines.
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OwlFancier posted:I wonder if michael mosley is any relation to the other mosley the mail is fond of? If he is he's kept it off his Wiki page, where I am sure it would be. What he is is an Oxford PPE graduate who dropped out of finance after two years to do a medical degree - which tells you straight away he's from a rich family - and is now best known as a fad dietician who claims to have reversed Type 2 diabetes. So definitely the Mail's kind of shithead.
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Great post twisto. I think my folks had a meal in the PO Tower long ago in the mists of time. A former flatmate was a BT Engineer and used to do strange rites in there sometimes (mid 1989s). If anyone wants a bit of escapism, saw a daft (but a bit gory) film last night Attack The Block. Aliens invade earth but land in the middle of a run down Saahf Landan estate. Doesn't work out for them. Was on Film 4 so probably on Catch Up.
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https://twitter.com/GarethDennis/status/1232737381977075713 A little sunday morning nerd-out thread.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Great post twisto. I think my folks had a meal in the PO Tower long ago in the mists of time. A former flatmate was a BT Engineer and used to do strange rites in there sometimes (mid 1989s). Joe Cornish's directorial debut and John Boyega's first film, and really good.
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Yeah it's a great movi- STEPHEN! I miss A+J
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OwlFancier posted:I wonder if michael mosley is any relation to the other mosley the mail is fond of? Having tried to look into this in the past after watching one of his TV shows, the general gist I got was that yeah, he's almost certainly related in someway, but he's not a grandson. But yeah, he's probably related to the noble Mosley family further down the tree.
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OwlFancier posted:The soviets certainly seem ahead with their state operating housing and centrally managed breadlines.  Бога Нет! (There is no God!) - Soviet poster ft an astronaut, probably intended to be Yuri Gargarin quote:The Soviet lead in the space race so impressed the public in 1960 that polls showed 81 per cent of respondents in Britain, 74 per cent in France and 53 per cent in West Germany of the opinion that American technology and scientific superiority was coming to an end. Richard Crossman took a similar view of the Soviet economic challenge, so did Harold Wilson. Both believed that the winning combination was political democracy and economic planning but that, as things stood, the Soviet system would supersede lethargic free enterprise. Wilson and his advisors - economists such as Thomas Balogh and scientists like J. D. Bernal - continued to invoke the superiority of Soviet economic performance right up to the general election of 1964. Callaghan's The Labour Party and Foreign Policy: A History, p200 - whilst Britain felt confidence in its progress, it was also confident in Soviet progress Crossman wrote an entire book (Planning for Freedom) in 1956, in answer of Crosland's revisionist The Future of Socialism, arguing specifically that the Soviet model had superior economic performance but horrifying political ethics, leaving to the non-Bolshevik parliamentary left to fuse political democracy with industrial progress, whilst Crosland and the Labour right busy themselves arguing for more pleasant gardens in order to win elections. Five years later the Soviets put a man in space. It did not seem like Crossman was wrong.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:This stuff is fascinating to me because my RF knowledge starts falling apart once you get past the spark gap apparatus (and even then the receivers for that make me start wanting to build a wicker man). I once heard microwave design referred to as a space where "every conductor becomes an inductor, every inductor becomes an insulator, every insulator becomes a capacitor, every capacitor becomes a conductor, and every engineer becomes a drunk." Even the printed circuit era ones looked more like the Lesser Key of Solomon than logical electronic design, this I think is a 3.5GHz Ionica receiver from the late 90s, when Ionica was relevant    The downside of all this is that I'm not sure how you get the "5G is the mark of the beast upon earth" lot to see reason, because the answer can't be "learn about microwave electronics." yaffle posted:Someone on my facebook posted this and I thought of this thread.  ronya posted:
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Ratjaculation posted:Yeah it's a great movi- STEPHEN! Just coming!
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Payndz posted:The Sunday Times rich list is out today. Haven't read it, but I've seen the top 10. Along with some prime bootlicking from its compiler: The government were led by the nose into lockdown by businesses who were in turn responding to their scared customers staying away. This should have put paid to the idea that jobs are created by supply rather than demand.
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bessantj posted:90 min journey to work last night and the driver was a fan of Kings of Leon, I'm not a fan so I never realised just how much their songs sound the same. They're not very good live if that's any comfort
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Jose posted:They're not very good live if that's any comfort I saw them at T in the Park 2007, and I think that was before they cut their hair and went all “sex is on fire”.
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They Sound exactly the same live as do recorded it's just that they're really boring otberwise and barely engage the crowd
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That was a really good post on the tower loads of stuff I never knew. Also I lived in Kilburn for a bit and there are some really good pubs there, I was told by a friend that back in the day they were all very heavily pro/anti unionist, with the high road being a bit of a demarkation. The Black Lion which still has a particularly famous ceiling used to have some very fancy windows or something but they all got smashed up when a massive fight broke out between rival groups. Also Mitchell and Webb used to drink there, which is the only bit of this anecdote I can actually confirm is true. Ratjaculation posted:Yeah it's a great movi- STEPHEN! Agreed. Adam Buxton's podcast is pretty good.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:That was a really good post on the tower loads of stuff I never knew. Also I lived in Kilburn for a bit and there are some really good pubs there, I was told by a friend that back in the day they were all very heavily pro/anti unionist, with the high road being a bit of a demarkation. The Black Lion which still has a particularly famous ceiling used to have some very fancy windows or something but they all got smashed up when a massive fight broke out between rival groups. Also Mitchell and Webb used to drink there, which is the only bit of this anecdote I can actually confirm is true. The Black Lion used to be my local and I never knew this!
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Miftan posted:The Black Lion used to be my local and I never knew this! Said friends' wife grew up there which is where I got the story from. Her dad is/was a carpenter that basically just went around fixing basements after they flooded (there is a buried river round there I've forgotten the name of), then coming back a few years later when the next owner had the same problem. I haven't been there for years but back in ~2007 there were still a couple of hold out "if you come in here uninvited we'll beat you up" places showing live hurling. Bus drivers used to tell me not to get off the night bus on the high road and go "your funeral mate" when I said I lived there.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:That was a really good post on the tower loads of stuff I never knew. Also I lived in Kilburn for a bit and there are some really good pubs there, I was told by a friend that back in the day they were all very heavily pro/anti unionist, with the high road being a bit of a demarkation. The Black Lion which still has a particularly famous ceiling used to have some very fancy windows or something but they all got smashed up when a massive fight broke out between rival groups. All i know about pubs in Kilburn is that one that was illegally demolished just as its grade II preservation order went through, the Carlton Tavern. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlton_Tavern,_Kilburn The developers tried to give it the whole "oh dear, our bad, so sad" afterwards and they got ordered to rebuild it brick by brick, which they've dragged their loving heels over but are now apparently doing. https://www.kilburntimes.co.uk/news/carlton-tavern-still-not-open-1-6011120
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I used to live in Kilburn (actually Cricklewood but I got sick of having to elaborate so referred to the nearest tube station) and the Black Lion was pretty good, the North London Tavern and Ironworks spring to mind too, good food as well The openly Irish pubs were more Cricklewood High Road way as I recall. Makes me have second thoughts about moving to East London, but then I'm not sure about even staying in the country. I just got a new project at work that will see me working in Hampshire where I don't really want to live, and I've made progress on buying a flat in Ilford. Just don't know what to do, more what I want to get away from.
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Jose posted:if anyone wants to feel real bad about the state of things search the word momentum on twitter Or the Terrifying Momentum Activist teacher thing?
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CGI Stardust posted:Splitter group number 3? (Momentum, Forward Momentum, Momentum International, and now, Momentum Renewal) https://twitter.com/deGourlay/status/1261800557670535175?s=20
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The best/dumbest part of these school fights was the Telegraph angrily shouting about just who do these unions represent anyway. (It's the teachers)
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