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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1261997341504045057?s=21 quote:In all the age groups under 50, more think the government is doing badly, while in all age groups over 50, more think the government is doing well. lol that old people aren't content with ruining the world for everyone else, but also lust for their own deaths XMNN fucked around with this message at 14:02 on May 17, 2020 |
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1261997341504045057?s=21 Sounds familiar.
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adonis is so loving stupid https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/1261920601532440578?s=20 https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/1261956140843368449?s=20
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peanut- posted:Enjoyed the BT Tower post, good to know why it ended up in Camden. The ways that modern London has been shaped by running it as 32 completely separate fiefdoms that mostly refuse to speak to each other is really interesting. Jay Foreman did a couple of good videos about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daeB46Z4fjs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T_0FYHn0I0 but the rot is much older, there was massive ll-will between (the councils of) relatively-prosperous, Liberal-dominated Stepney and poorer ILP and Communist Poplar, for example. Urban legend has it that Poplar Town Hall is located right up at the north end of the borough so Poplar councilors wouldn't have to pass through Stepney to get to the LCC (it's not, but it's still a bit of a mystery how it ended up there)
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Someone should make total war game where your quest is to unify the greater london area under one banner. You could definitely make it at least as fun as shogun 2.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Jay Foreman did a couple of good videos about this: If someone asked me to imagine the quintessential YouTube video cover pic, that's pretty close to what I'd imagine.
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May 17, 2020 14:23
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And it'd only be slightly less arduous than what Tokugawa Ieyasu actually had to go through.
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OwlFancier posted:Someone should make total war game where your quest is to unify the greater london area under one banner. The new Assassins Creed is vikings so instead you can just burn England and stab the king.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/GarethDennis/status/1232737381977075713 That was pretty cool. It reminds me why a relay of a line is probably my second favourite thing to work on, starting with a ditch and ending with a rail line we can use is pretty great. Though the last one I was on was down in Bristol, dragging that geosynthetic sheet through a 1 foot deep pool of water wasn't that great, totally soaked my right boot had a wet sock for the rest of the shift. It's surprising just how much hasn't changed over the years. (Really great BT Tower effort post!) Jose posted:They're not very good live if that's any comfort I think I saw them live for a few minutes once when they headlined a Reading Festival.
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https://twitter.com/JessicaLBarnard/status/1261992466347102214 Why the gently caress can't people on the left just coalesce and get in line. We all want the same things. Why does every oval office need to be in charge of their own little feifdom?
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winegums posted:https://twitter.com/JessicaLBarnard/status/1261992466347102214 if there isn’t stupid self defeating infighting it isn’t the left
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Aren't they all basically just arguing about the momentum internal elections or something?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Jay Foreman did a couple of good videos about this: I enjoyed these. The fact that it sits across the border of 3 boroughs explains a lot about why Finsbury Park gets perpetually and (seemingly inexplicably) neglected.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:More effort than we deserve about BT Tower Great post btw, checked the first post but didn’t see links to the housing ones, I skipped over most of them at the time for some daft reason so didn’t read them. Anyone have links?
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Yeah are you putting these great effortposts up on a blog or similar, Twisto? If not you should. Start a Tumblr or something, its free and you can futz around with the layout enough for it to look like an actual website.
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I kept links to a couple of the housing posts https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3902705&pagenumber=209&perpage=40#post500052745 https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3902705&pagenumber=312&perpage=40#post500259866
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OwlFancier posted:I demand that the press create some raving tory nurses because reality keeps assaulting my freeze peach with all these left wing ones. There's actually a 'doctor' in the medical Facebook groups spouting off right wing and Tory talking points non-stop. Dunno if he's a troll or if he really is deluded. He was advocating we reopen "just like Sweden" and we use North Korean statistics as a benchmark for casualty and infectivity rates. Can't even report him to the GMC because he's using a fake name. The medics here will know who this is.
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Oh I'm sure they exist it's just funny how all the tories go crazy at how medicos keep being left wing. As if you have to go out of your way to find ones that don't like the tories.
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https://vimeo.com/132009536 Jonathan Meades "Remember the Future" - a good watch if you are interested in the White Heat of Technology era
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Yeah are you putting these great effortposts up on a blog or similar, Twisto? If not you should. Start a Tumblr or something, its free and you can futz around with the layout enough for it to look like an actual website. There is the effortposts graveyard, but I forgot the password (and, crucially, the email address I signed up to it with) so I need to rehost that somewhere. Like I say, most of these come out of abandoned drafts for my actual blog, which is under my own name so isn't getting posted here, lol.
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winegums posted:https://twitter.com/JessicaLBarnard/status/1261992466347102214 Depending on your definition of the left, we definitely don't all want the same things, though.
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winegums posted:Why the gently caress can't people on the left just coalesce and get in line. We all want the same things. Why does every oval office need to be in charge of their own little feifdom? Because while we may agree on the end point (& honestly even that is debatable with some people like social democrats who really seems fine with just tweaking the status quo a bit and others want an end to capitalism full stop) we absolutely do not agree on the means to get there. And they are very real differences. It's stupid to pretend they aren't. And it tends to not be the social democrats & democratic socialists who do the compromising, they expect everyone else to get on board with their outlook & no.
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winegums posted:https://twitter.com/JessicaLBarnard/status/1261992466347102214 The left has always been a confederation of interests and that's honestly not a terrible way to structure things. We saw in Soviet Russia what happens when you concentrate power into a single entity. The problem with all economic systems is not fundamentally in whether a small cabal of capitalists or a small cabal of "workers' representatives" are running the show, but the fact that power is concentrated in the first place. Right now, the Left has just learned that the Labour Party alone is not a sufficient vehicle for progress. What we are seeing is a lot of smaller-interest groups focusing on those issues and a resurgence of interest in unions as people realise that employers are genuinely willing to put them in mortal danger. The left doesn't need to "get in line", because then it wouldn't be the left anymore. The left needs a forum for communication, and coordination, amongst its fragments. There's a lot of despair in the UK left right now, but also a hell of a lot more grassroots organisation than ever before. It's going to take a bit, but embracing organisation in a fragment that's specific to your needs (e.g. a rental union, mutual aid group, food banks etc.) is a positive and can have more direct effect on actual human lives than any number of LP conferences.
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https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1261944019623575554 The conservatives are so desperate for a second wave bigger than the first
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I feel like you need a finely-tuned ear for dogwhistles in all this to determine the real reasons why ostensibly allied organisations are so heavily opposed to each other. There's always going to be at least one rape cultist faction in all this (or just common-or-garden wreckers), and it's useful to know who they are.
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The ABSOLUTE state of this Lord on BBC right now PLEASE tell me someone else is watching this.
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winegums posted:https://twitter.com/JessicaLBarnard/status/1261992466347102214 lol i'd definitely not call it momentum, just renewal would be fine isn't it just a diff faction of the same momentum lot and their plan is to do what their plan was last time but for real this time? also why is their logo r0 lol
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Forward Momentum - FBU dominated (Matt Wrack, Ben Selby, and Andrew Scattergood seem to be driving forces? The steering group has a lot of paper pushers). Hostile to Lansman. Seems full of veterans of the "union faction" of the Corbyn team coalescing as it became clear that Burgon wasn't going anywhere, not even amongst Labour lefties. Skwawkbox loves them. Momentum Renewal - announced twelve hours after Lansman announces that he won't be standing for Momentum chair (his announcement emphasises NEC reform so it seems obvious where he will be focusing his energies). Transparently intended to be a replacement to fill the vacuum... List of signatories has many Corbynite MPs on board: Trickett, Lavery amongst them. They also have Bastani's Novara Media (or maybe he's just hedging his bets)? Organising this would have taken a while at least. I could see MPs worried about Momentum turning into a talk shop once Lansman leaves deciding to endorse it. FM seems to lack for power bases besides FBU, none of those names really jump out. This might be deliberate - if it's planning open primaries to nominate candidates for Momentum NCG selections (a org which itself exists purely to lobby another org, mind you - this onion's gone fractal), it's going to turn out that a single body (presumably the FBU) intends to swamp the turnout. ronya fucked around with this message at 16:29 on May 17, 2020 |
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Melissa McCarthyism posted:The ABSOLUTE state of this Lord on BBC right now PLEASE tell me someone else is watching this. Context?
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Ash Crimson posted:Context? Lord Sumption on BBC News around 4pm saying the Government has no purpose to extend the lockdown other than fear of negative public response. Says Government response has only scared people more when the virus is not as bad as they have been led to believe. Fit and healthy people should be allowed to live their lives, you cannot live without risk. People should be able to take decision about their health and bodies without government intervention. In a sense this fellow advocated for legalisation of all drugs and assisted suicide. (maybe he isn't so bad???)
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Solid effort, start to (horrifying) finish. Enjoyed the signs.
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sorry for the e/n post, but i'm not really sure where else to turn with this. my husband and i both joined the party because of corbyn, were generally on the same page, etc. until the leadership election. i voted for RLB, who i didn't think was a perfect candidate but was still the one closest to what i want from labour, while he voted for starmer. he has completely refused to talk about why he voted for starmer with me because he knows i don't think he's the best choice (i have never made this personal with him [why would I?], but i was obviously disappointed the day the result was announced and he took it personally). today he mentioned donkey sanctuary-gate and i was like, "yeah, unsurprising the mail would do that, but you have to admit, 'i bought the land for a donkey sanctuary for my mum' is a pretty hilarious response." he blew up at me for "taking the other side just because you don't like him" and now says he never wants to talk with me about anything to do with starmer again. we always really enjoyed debating things we didn't agree about before. i'm going to try not to mention starmer but tbh i think it's a little bit of a strange ask to never talk about the leader of the party we're both active members of! does anyone have any advice on how i should handle the fact that kier starmer is ruining my marriage?
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midori-a-gogo posted:sorry for the e/n post, but i'm not really sure where else to turn with this. don't talk about politics or if you must talk about politics, talk about policies not politicians. there is only pain down that path
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Standard therapy advice for political differences in marriage is to think carefully whether you, personally, place shared political participation or discussion or consumption (e.g. reading social media) amongst the things which bring you self-fulfilment. For many people, the answer is no; we just do it because it's there, and we're comfortable living without it. If the worst thing in your marriage is that you must keep your sage insights on twitter's latest to yourself, then your marriage is honestly a great one. One should watch out for a cycle of bringing up a topic and then refusing to discuss it - that is just being inconsiderate. If one doesn't wish to discuss it, then one shouldn't bring it up. There needs to be an understanding that this avoidance is mutual - learning to agree to disagree. This includes not venturing comments in order to test whether one's partner responds with the right attitude, for example (the demand-withdraw communication breakdown). But if it could just be a one-off incident in what you describe of your husband. ronya fucked around with this message at 17:35 on May 17, 2020 |
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Leave the bastard E: sorry, hacked by Mumsnet
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midori-a-gogo posted:sorry for the e/n post, but i'm not really sure where else to turn with this. If you can't have a sit down and talk about why there's a Starmer in the room that's making him weirdly on edge (I mean don't make it about your husband, more along the lines of "it's like a weird thing we both tiptoe around and it's fine really") then maybe kinda take his side? Like say that it's the Corbyn thing already, people thought the press would give him an easy ride but they're already throwing stuff out there to make it stick. The donkey thing is just a funny explanation, even if it's true it almost sounds made up. Like commiserating with him and focusing on the media bastards angle, more than the lol your guy sucks side (even if you weren't, he might still take it that way, especially if there's existing tensions around the topic) Probably is true though, fancy lawyers and heads of the CPS probably make a lot of ponies, and that's a lot of donkeys Try and have a talk with him though eh, even if you just end up agreeing not to talk about politics. Sounds like he sees it as a personal thing, like he's a Starmer stand-in almost, so maybe he feels attacked - if you can get him to knock that off it's probably better for everyone baka kaba fucked around with this message at 17:56 on May 17, 2020 |
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