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animist
Aug 28, 2018

people are mocking him for the "after wwII" bit but saying we should have launched nukes during the Cuban Missile crisis is the real big-brained stuff

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

What could possibly make you think that invading the Soviet Union during the Cuban missile crisis would have been a terrible idea?

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

if you destroy the world you also destroy the soviets

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

BattleMaster posted:

if you destroy the world you also destroy the soviets

This is too close to real policy to be funny.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

animist posted:

people are mocking him for the "after wwII" bit but saying we should have launched nukes during the Cuban Missile crisis is the real big-brained stuff

World would've been wrecked just short of Threads, but the Russians would've really gotten owned. Victory!

Tias
May 25, 2008

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LordSaturn posted:

I'd forgotten about the "open borders FOR ISRAEL" thing, a classic fash misunderstanding of what their enemy wants

It's everywhere. In my neighbourhood som schizo idiot is putting up stickers with 'google replacement immigration' and 'the goyim knows!'

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxAIE9TbGyk

Tias
May 25, 2008

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The 1945 Soviet Army, noted for not being the best drilled, equipped and led army on the loving planet at the time

The Cuban missihaha ho ho gently caress I can't even make fun of this poo poo :eng99:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i love armchair general poo poo like that. but people who believed stuff like that had influence, and while they weren't able to push europe into another war, they shaped how the U.S. military behaved in korea and, well, you know what happened there

he's not even patton tier, though. i take back the video. at best he'd be a charles willoughby

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_A._Willoughby

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Zeroisanumber posted:

World would've been wrecked just short of Threads, but the Russians would've really gotten owned. Victory!

If there were two yanks left over vs only one Russian we would win!

(Actual generals and military brass at the time believed that)

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

incels can't tell porn from reality
qanoners can't tell 4chan shitposts from reality
preppers can't tell turner diaries from reality
trump voters can't tell reality tv from reality

it's been observed before that reactionaries don't "get" art, confusing lowbrow fiction for reality seems like a part of this

I mean liberals do this with poo poo like the west wing. To the point that all those Obama staffers like the Pod Jon's tell all books have sections where they express their jobs and dreams in explicitly West Wing terms.

This isnt an ideologically exclusive deal it's just stupid people wishing the world was like one of their stories cause at least those stories are fun and make sense. It's a way of trying to bring order to the chaotic nightmare world you love in where your life is completely precarious and you have no control over any way to actually make it better

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004


everyone in that comment section is unironically agreeing with him

some chud posted:

We were brainwashing by the media, including the McCarthy hearings to fight the oppressive attack on Communism in all its forms. You can still see that in how the media keeps referring to Hitler as a socialist and forgetting the national part. They wanted us to love Communism or at least feel sorry for those poor oppressed Communists. That's how the Civil Rights Movement got started. I mean, who wants to be oppressed right? Now that we're seeing the truth, now that we're seeing Cultural Marxism at work, destroying our values from the inside out, now that we can see what Hitler and Patton were talking about in WW2, we can approach Communism from a fresh, new perspective
]

:psyduck:

noted pro-communism propaganda: the mccarthy hearings

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

https://twitter.com/Styx666Official/status/1262007670464286720

https://twitter.com/Styx666Official/status/1261751043836260357

Mr Interweb has issued a correction as of 16:50 on May 17, 2020

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Mr Interweb posted:

noted pro-communism propaganda: the mccarthy hearings
yeah dunno what that's about. but i think they're probably reacting to top government people at the time realizing that everyone was exhausted and they needed to stabilize the situation and rebuild, which meant suppressing domestic communists on the one hand but also responding to pressures from decolonizing movements abroad by creating a "progressive" sort of third-way against both the USSR and the old european colonial empires, and that meant supporting leaders like leopold senghor of senegal, being friendly to nasser (who hated the british who hated him) and granting the major demands of the civil rights movement at home (while suppressing the radical, communist groups like the panthers), as decolonization abroad was putting pressure on U.S. society at home. there was also a turn toward revisionism in the soviet union that promoted a policy of "peaceful coexistence" with the capitalist countries.

some cold war historians ITT could probably add more insight than i can

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Incels would be so much happier if they were gay.

You say this but I swear a good portion of them are gay/bi and either are too dumb to know it or are in denial. All those weird infographics come off as fawning over attractive men.

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

That bloodless little twig couldn't even flip a light switch without breaking a bone.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


So this dipshit heard that the Soviets employed some Shermans and just assumed all the T-34s were just those with a hammer/sickle graffitied on the side?

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/BleachSundae/status/1262045922239942658

lol

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


lmao

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

I hope someone punches him in his dumb face

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006


Don't forget to report this tweet. I don't have an account but am thinking strongly about registering one just to report things like this. This guy seems like he might really go on a spree.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Continuity RCP posted:

I hope someone punches him in his dumb face

Or even better just make him famous, since this...


plus this

...equals an unambiguous statement calling for violence/genocide of everyone holding opinions that don't meet his approval.

Since twitter is cool with nazis just reporting is probably pointless but I'm sure someone masochistic enough to own a twitter account can find a way to send a link to some friendly antifa superposters, to embarrass them into action.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

If anyone hasn't listened to the Lions Lead By Donkeys podcast episode about World War Two tanks and how bullshit the reputation of German Steel is, it's worth a listen. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/lions-led-by-donkeys-podcast/e/55439032

Pretty entertaining and also gets into discussions about why takes like "the Red Army was weak on V-E day and somehow got weaker after the end of combat operations" are hilariously stupid.

DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.

LonsomeSon posted:

If anyone hasn't listened to the Lions Lead By Donkeys podcast episode about World War Two tanks and how bullshit the reputation of German Steel is, it's worth a listen. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/lions-led-by-donkeys-podcast/e/55439032

Pretty entertaining and also gets into discussions about why takes like "the Red Army was weak on V-E day and somehow got weaker after the end of combat operations" are hilariously stupid.

Weren't a lot of German Tanks just really expensive and fancy only to get owned by cheap Russian tanks and American tanks that could easily have their parts exchanged between each other?

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

DesertIslandHermit posted:

Weren't a lot of German Tanks just really expensive and fancy only to get owned by cheap Russian tanks and American tanks that could easily have their parts exchanged between each other?

They had decent designs but lovely materials and by the time the war kicked off they weren't able to slow down production to do stuff like retool or reorganize a factory or to redesign some of their over-complicated ideas. Their steel was poo poo and was prone to spalling, which meant that even if the tank's armor wasn't penetrated the crew could still be killed.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
:piss:
Panzerkampfwagen V Panther dismounting train car, 1944, colourised

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

This is like an image of an alternate future. One where Mookie didn't make Dominic Deegan.

Please keep making very crappy webcomics Mookie, it's clearly helped you as a person.

staticman
Sep 12, 2008

Be gay
Death to America
Suck my dick Israel
Mess with Texas
and remember to lmao
So uhh the chuds are gearing up to go to war with the Sioux
https://twitter.com/oohiyu/status/1262121704123297792

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Dmitri-9 posted:

That bloodless little twig couldn't even flip a light switch without breaking a bone.

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000


the rare everythingcel

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004


as a former super skinny person, holy poo poo, dude is even more of a stick than i thought

this is the savior of western civilization :lol:

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

SunAndSpring posted:

You say this but I swear a good portion of them are gay/bi and either are too dumb to know it or are in denial. All those weird infographics come off as fawning over attractive men.

please don't try to make the incels the gays' problem

DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.

Relevant Tangent posted:

please don't try to make the incels the gays' problem

The problem itself is how the incel community is loving toxic and a bucket of crabs which is an extremely hazardous thing for anyone who doesn’t feel satisfied with their sex life and that affects both homosexual and heterosexual men.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


DesertIslandHermit posted:

Weren't a lot of German Tanks just really expensive and fancy only to get owned by cheap Russian tanks and American tanks that could easily have their parts exchanged between each other?

They were also finicky and an enormous pain in the rear end to maintain. A tank that looks incredible on a stat sheet but can't make it to the battlefield isn't that useful!

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

DesertIslandHermit posted:

The problem itself is how the incel community is loving toxic and a bucket of crabs which is an extremely hazardous thing for anyone who doesn’t feel satisfied with their sex life and that affects both homosexual and heterosexual men.

yeah but when people keep saying 'oh obviously the incels are gay look at how obsessed they are with men's bodies' it's a real lovely look because that's not inherent in being gay and basically every time incels come up people say well if they were gay they'd be fine when obviously they're thoroughly loving broken and even if they liked dudes they'd still be thoroughly loving broken and it associates the absolute failure of inceldom with being gay which is not good because gay dudes aren't thoroughly loving broken

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

staticman posted:

So uhh the chuds are gearing up to go to war with the Sioux
https://twitter.com/oohiyu/status/1262121704123297792

I'm in MN and we murdered a shitload of Sioux here and maybe we could help out and make up for some of that.

TheKennedys
Sep 23, 2006

By my hand, I will take you from this godforsaken internet
I don't remember the username anymore but there was a goon that did a ton of effortposts on why the German supply effort during WWII was hilariously bad (talking about the uniforms at first but p sure the tanks came up as well) mostly because of it all being overengineered fancy poo poo instead of useful, modular gear. Someone can probably dig it up, I'm not having much luck

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

DesertIslandHermit posted:

Weren't a lot of German Tanks just really expensive and fancy only to get owned by cheap Russian tanks and American tanks that could easily have their parts exchanged between each other?

The quote from the podcast is part of a conversation, but the salient point is 'for example, while Germans produced and fielded [something like] 1400 Tiger Is during the war, America produced an average of 1,200 Shermans per month in 1942, in just the state of Michigan.'

The specific moral of that story is that all of the circlejerks about the superiority of German armor during the war could be 100% unironically true and it still wouldn't have mattered, and they definitely weren't. "Overengineered without regard for construction complexity and then underbuilt by a combination of capital cutting corners and widespread reliance on either slave labor or paid labor hopped up on pharm-grade meth" is also pretty descriptive.

The extra-hilarious part is that while the dependable and cheap T-34 was the Soviet mainstay, their heavier designs were probably all the best examples of production cost vs capabilities in their purpose categories produced before Cold War armor doctrine settled in and construction shifted, and the production of all of them was still ramping up when the Reichstag fell. If the European Allies had declared on the USSR, it's unlikely that they would have had the resources or unity of will to fight the largest single land army, led by some of the best generals of their time, supported by the resurgent Soviet industrial machine being souped up by the hauling of the entire accessible German industrial base back behind the Urals where Allied strategic bombers also can't reach, all without even really concluding the World War against the Axis.

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
It's important not to overstate the condition of the Red Army at the end of the war. They were scraping the bottom of their readily-available manpower (instead of sending their POWs home to recover when they liberated them, the ones who weren't arrested were dumped into whatever units needed replacements) and were reliant on lend-lease trucks and rolling stock for their logistics. Plus the Western Allies had the sort of strategic bombing capability that the Nazis never did so the Soviet factories were far from invulnerable.

That being said the idea of a war between the Western Allies and the Soviets in 1945 is preposterous bullshit and there's a reason even Churchill called it Operation Unthinkable when he asked his staff for contingency plans if the Soviets tried anything.

Vincent Van Goatse has issued a correction as of 23:24 on May 17, 2020

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