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Blistex posted:Health experts are shouting this at the top of their lungs, but nobody is listening. The fact that the US has over 1,144,775 (according to Bing) active cases means that the potential to catch it is worst than when all this first started. Right now Canada is having a nice little "dip", but from what I have seen in AB, people are taking it as, "It's over". Are you sure those are active cases? I’m pretty sure that’s just the number of people that have tested positive since it started, recoveries are not well-reported outside of people being released from the hospital. NY DOH called me before the doctor did when i tested positive but they didn’t track anything past that.
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Supreme Allah posted:I'm still stuck on (plague!) Hardening and atrophy
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Meanwhile with our "ambassadors" to Spain: Baffled Brit Boozers on Spain’s Costa del Sol haven’t an idea where to get a pint from on Monday in Fuengirola  Alan and Sue in their normal pose-they wanted to know where to get a pint from on Monday quote:Alan said: “We have saved up a lot of money for Monday, it’s going to be a cracker, I think we will start off in Carvajal and do a pub crawl to the bottom of the town, by the castle.” Dear God. Sorry everyone in Spain.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Are you sure those are active cases? I’m pretty sure that’s just the number of people that have tested positive since it started, recoveries are not well-reported outside of people being released from the hospital. NY DOH called me before the doctor did when i tested positive but they didn’t track anything past that. Yeah, quoted the wrong number. But the point is that right now with the opening, there are a lot more cases than when it started, so the possibility of getting infected is orders of magnitude greater.
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Supreme Allah posted:I'm still stuck on (plague!) Delusions that the Book of Kushner will be the start of the Super Duper Testament covering Trump's life, presidency, and the plague of COVID-19 that he single-handedly stopped.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1262080713509277709 This...This is why it will get far worse in America. I hate this whole country and this generation. P.s. the woman is ex military, an anti vax mom, holistic healer, vegan and "certified lymphologist".
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The purpose of the now-diminishing stay-at-home was not to prevent people from getting Covid. It was to slow the infection rate to a level that hospitals could manage treatment. From a pure public health standpoint, the hypothetical “best” scenario would be for a strict-shelter-in-place order to remain in effect until a vaccine is administered. This isn’t to prevent the disease from spreading, but to slow it. And it was necessary to slow it to prevent the overwhelming of hospital capacity. It’s only meant to protect lives in as much as preventing excess deaths due to lack of medical care. The path forward over the coming months will be this weird loosening/tightening restrictions if/when hospitals get near capacity. I predict that on average, death rates will plateau and hold steady for ~4 months. The trouble is that tightening restrictions back up will be less effective over time, so I anticipate some big fluctuations as we go back to a reactive stance to this (due to the delay effects). I see this as a race to 60% total infection or a prophylactic, whichever comes first. The only way I see myself changing my outlook is if there was a rigorous nationwide testing/tracing program implemented, but c’mon.
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Fenarisk posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1262080713509277709 lol the guy who dances while cleaning the carts is the best
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Ehud posted:lol the guy who dances while cleaning the carts is the best Agreed, that dude is a loving legend
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quote:it’s been so long I don’t care The new boomer mantra before gleefully marching towards their doom/Chili's.
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Outrail posted:I'm worried enough of calgarian fuckwits pouring into BC now that we're trying to open up, much less the American border. Maybe the American covid response is all part of trumps master plan to make Mexico pay for a border wall - they’ll do it voluntarily to keep Americans out
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What's gonna be the point that people start to pay attention again? 3000 dead per day? 4000? 69000 per day?
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rotinaj posted:What's gonna be the point that people start to pay attention again? when they personally get sick and not a day before
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rotinaj posted:What's gonna be the point that people start to pay attention again? When enough people personally know someone that died or got really ill. So it's not numbers dead per day but some time in future Half a million dead ? Social media will help here, first time ever
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Ehud posted:lol the guy who dances while cleaning the carts is the best I love him because he's just doing it to troll her and there's nothing she can do to get him in trouble for it.
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Fenarisk posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1262080713509277709 Wearing a mask has become a "liberal" thing, where not wearing one is a "conservative" thing. We all saw this coming because it happens with everything else except breathing.
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BlackIronHeart posted:Honestly, same, I feel weirdly confident wearing a mask and I don't know why it boosts my self esteem. Same reason sunglasses do. You don't have to worry your face is doing the wrong thing, and you're one step removed from the world.
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rotinaj posted:What's gonna be the point that people start to pay attention again? 
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AARP LARPer posted:
Despite politicians here telling the public to be sensible so that governments don't have to bring back the restrictions which have just been lifted, I doubt those restrictions will be reintroduced even if covid-19 cases to start to climb again. We've massively increased our intensive care capacity over the last few months and our government is resistant to the idea of increasing the deficit any further to provide income support beyond September.
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rotinaj posted:What's gonna be the point that people start to pay attention again? remember when 300 people died in Italy in one day and the entire world freaked out. now 300 isnt even noticeable, open er up! i guess this is what WW1 must have felt like
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Mulaney Power Move posted:Seems unfair to all the people who need work and want to reopen for the sake of their livelihoods to just assume everyone who wants to "end the lockdown" is a big dumb stupid inferior Trump supporter who just wants to crowd into a honky tonk and sing along wity Travis Tritt. yeah it's a dumb assumption to make, but at the same time cancelling rents and mortgages and providing universal income and free healthcare as well as other forms of economic aid and debt elimination would help people in the long run a lot more than reopening and sending everyone back to work and then crashing the healthcare system with a second wave. of course the average person who is out of work, suffering and angry about it is not making a pro-trump political statement simply by feeling that way or being in that situation, but the people funding the whole movement to reopen (as opposed to the other methods of supporting people who are out of work and broke) and funding these protests are certainly trump supporters and rightwing think tanks, and the fact that the protests are full of maga hats and rightwing militia types is not exactly a coincidence
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Chinatown posted:when they personally get sick and not a day before i doubt it, if they survive they'll just say it was bad but it can be beaten Spinz posted:When enough people personally know someone that died or got really ill. it's probably this, especially if it's someone young
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Earwicker posted:yeah it's a dumb assumption to make, but at the same time cancelling rents and mortgages and providing universal income and free healthcare as well as other forms of economic aid and debt elimination would help people in the long run a lot more than reopening and sending everyone back to work and then crashing the healthcare system with a second wave. Has this ever been on the table at all? Asking seriously.
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I went for a long walk this afternoon, the first walk I've taken since the patio restaurants and bars opened back up here in Columbus, Ohio. I saw noticeably more cars and people out than last weekend. It wasn't even close. Also walked past a local Latin America place where the patio was packed with every table taken. We're open for business!!
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Sjs00 posted:Has this ever been on the table at all? Asking seriously. not yet it isn't, but it's far closer than it has ever been at any point in my lifetime. there are, at least, moratoriums on eviction in some places which is a step in the right direction. a presidential candidate has publically endorsed the idea of rent and mortgage forgiveness which, again, doesn't mean it's realistically "on the table" (biden would have to win and then keep his word, both currently unlikely) but it's a sign that we are far closer than we have been before and that it could be put on the table through continued pressure. i also think it may happen on a local level in some areas even if not on state/federal levels Earwicker fucked around with this message at 00:01 on May 18, 2020 |
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:I went for a long walk this afternoon, the first walk I've taken since the patio restaurants and bars opened here in Columbus, Ohio. I saw noticeably more cars and people out than last weekend. It wasn't even close. Also walked past a local Latin America place where the patio was packed with every table taken. We're open for business!! Avtext/Post combo.
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Earwicker posted:not yet it isn't, but it's far closer than it has ever been at any point in my lifetime. there are, at least, moratoriums on eviction in some places which is a step in the right direction. a presidential candidate has publically endorsed the idea of rent and mortgage forgiveness which, again, doesn't mean it's realistically "on the table" (biden would have to win and then keep his word, both currently unlikely) but it's a sign that we are far closer than we have been before and that it could be put on the table through continued pressure. i also think it may happen on a local level in some areas even if not on state/federal levels Oh well then I agree, rent and mortgage forgiveness as well as universal healthcare and such would of course be better than flooding hospitals. But that's the opposite of FYGM, and thus not ever going to happen. It'd be nice though.
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Sjs00 posted:Oh well then I agree, rent and mortgage forgiveness as well as universal healthcare and such would of course be better than flooding hospitals. But that's the opposite of FYGM, and thus not ever going to happen. It'd be nice though. there are all kinds of things happening these days that people have said were "not ever going to happen". both bad and good things. that doesn't mean all of those ideas will become real, some of them are just dreams, but they are possible enough that they are worth pushing for instead of shrugging it all off as impossible
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I am watching Nascar in Darlington now. From the Netherlands, as my cable company presents it in its racing channels. I have been following these races for the last three years. The racing has its exiting moments, but it also offers a view on a truly conservative America with a Southern touch? Military parade, Christian prayer, ecstatic national anthem, driver with family looking pious with hand on the heart, it is all quite pathetic - but not necessarily malicious - from where I stand. So I was kind of surprised that they are very careful about Covid19, everybody wears masks, only a bare minimum of staff, and huge fines for violations. Against all the horror stories on this forum, I was positively surprised by American behaviour.
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nascar is a large corp and media franchise, the brand is southern but the money gets made and funnelled into urban conglomerates. like how fox news is made in nyc
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Earwicker posted:there are all kinds of things happening these days that people have said were "not ever going to happen". both bad and good things. Oh agreed. I never thought I'd get 1200$ from the US gov and, even though I'm living in dire poverty, have yet to spend a single penny because I just don't trust said US gov and it's handouts. I should probably bet all of it on whatever odds I can get that Trump will be reelected.
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Sjs00 posted:I should probably bet all of it on whatever odds I can get that Trump will be reelected. yea well you arent exactly alone on that one so good luck finding anyone to take you up on it https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/
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Sjs00 posted:Has this ever been on the table at all? Asking seriously. Some of the lefty politicians are pushing it, but I don't anyone expects it to actually happen. Closest we'll see is some kind of eviction moratorium, which a number of states have done
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The Glumslinger posted:Some of the lefty politicians are pushing it, but I don't anyone expects it to actually happen. Closest we'll see is some kind of eviction moratorium, which a number of states have done i wouldnt call joe biden a "lefty" by any stretch. but like i said that doesnt mean it'll actually happen because he'd have to get elected and, even if he did, i dont think he means it. but he did say it, and he's very far from being a socialist. the fact that someone in his position gave the idea any kind of public credence at all is a change
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Earwicker posted:i wouldnt call joe biden a "lefty" by any stretch. but like i said that doesnt mean it'll actually happen because he'd have to get elected and, even if he did, i dont think he means it. I mean even if he gets elected and Democrats take the Senate and manage to kill the filibuster to pass it on 50 votes, that's still 7 months away. A lot damage is going to happen before then that won't be easily undone
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i think thats a moot point because biden is unlikely to be elected. but my point is that the idea even being entertained or discussed by a mainstream presidential candidate is something that would have been unthinkable 10 or 20 years ago so its silly to write it off as impossible. we're not talking about something actually impossible here in a physical sense, we're talking about something that is only politically impossible, which was also once said about things like marriage equality and many other civil rights, things that maybe were "impossible" at some point but then happened because people made them happen. i certainly dont expect to see universal healthcare or nationwide rent/mortgage forgiveness in november but i wouldnt at all be surprised if it happened on a municipal level in some places depending on if lockdowns strengthen or return
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Lotti Fuehrscheim posted:I am watching Nascar in Darlington now. that stuff isn't a southern thing, it's an American racing thing I go to a dirt oval every year, multiple times a year, and they do that there too. I'm in New York
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Earwicker posted:i think thats a moot point because biden is unlikely to be elected. You're crazy if you legitimately think this. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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VikingSkull posted:that stuff isn't a southern thing, it's an American racing thing i dunno its kind of like how western new york isnt geographically or historically a southern place and yet theres an awful lot of confederate flags for some reason
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